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Elwood, Melb
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Engine number swap
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Fri, 23 April 2004 15:05
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At the moment im in the process of finding all the info i need to do a 3s-gte (gen3) conversion into a st162/1 and was hoping to get an engine & gearbox in about a monthor so's time.
Question: Could i get away with removing the engine No's off the 3s-gte block and put on my old No's on, so i don't need to get an engineers cert. I know this sounds like a really bad idea, but i don't want to be pulling out an engine each time i get a defect.
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: Engine number swap
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Sat, 24 April 2004 04:28
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wouldn't it be easier to get it mod plated? ALl i needed was some bigger brakes (which is a bloody good idea anyway) and they check all the mounts and stuff. Cost me $150. You would get fined more than that if they caught you with dodgy engine numbers!
Plus, wouldn't you need a mod plate if you put a turbo on your "standard" engine anyway?
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Engine number swap
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Sat, 24 April 2004 05:13
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hey mate thats a pretty good price for a mod plate for all of that  can I ask who/where through?
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location:
Elwood, Melb
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August 2003
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Re: Engine number swap
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Sat, 24 April 2004 05:41
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| Chris Davey wrote on Sat, 24 April 2004 14:28 |
wouldn't it be easier to get it mod plated? ALl i needed was some bigger brakes (which is a bloody good idea anyway) and they check all the mounts and stuff. Cost me $150. You would get fined more than that if they caught you with dodgy engine numbers!
Plus, wouldn't you need a mod plate if you put a turbo on your "standard" engine anyway?
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I wasn't aware of anything such as mod plates (inexperienced) do they enable your modifications to pass roadworthyness? Where do I get a mod plate?
Also im doing a full engine swap.
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I supported Toymods
Banned User
Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: Engine number swap
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Sat, 24 April 2004 07:08
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| wilbo666 wrote on Sat, 24 April 2004 15:13 |
hey mate thats a pretty good price for a mod plate for all of that can I ask who/where through?
Cheers
Wilbo
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Nelson's Engineering
Kunda Park (Sunshine Coast)
5445 5166
My mod plate is for engine, seats, diff, seats and steering wheel. The fella is pretty lenient but I still had to get my seat mounts redone. My car has no interior excepts seats and a dash, so he is a good fella for overlooking some "luxury" items. (that is what the RTA told me about interior parts)
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Wahroonga
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June 2003
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Re: Engine number swap
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Sat, 24 April 2004 08:24
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ok ppl lets remember that we are in different states and there are different regulations for each state. I would have to agree that u should get the mod engineer certified. And i think that 1 month is a bit optomistic.
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Location:
Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Re: Engine number swap
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Sat, 24 April 2004 10:10
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Tampering with engine numbers buy grinding them or restamping them = Illegal and most likely if you got caught they would take your car and you would never see it back.
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Elwood, Melb
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August 2003
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Re: Engine number swap
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Sun, 25 April 2004 08:51
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Alright so a mod plate is sort of like an engineers cert. Though from what i've read in the Vehicle Standands Information it states.
Engine Changes
-An engine or transmission change where the replacement is of the same model, type & capacity as one fitted to a vechile of that model as original equipment; or
-An engine or transmission offered as an option for that model by the manufacturer of the vehicle provided both the modification and assessment are carried out in accordance with the guidelines contained in this information sheet.
Replacement Engines
An engine which is of a type offered by the manufacturer as an option for that vehicle may be fitted provided that:-
-All other related components including structure, suspension, brakes etc., are equivalent to those fitted to a vehicle of the same model supplied with that engine type as optional original equipment by the manufacturer, and
-Acceptable evidence is supplied which certifies that these components are fitted in accordance with factory methods and the vehicle in its modified form is safe and complies with the applicable regulations for that model vehicle.
An engine which is not of the same type as offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle as original, but is similar in power, weight and emission standards to that of the original engine, may be fitted to such a vehicle. If alteration to the vehicle's frame or structure is involved and specially fabricated supports or structures are used an Approval Certificate must be supplied.
Where it is intended to fit an engine which is significantly different from that offered by the manufacturer as original or an option, (e.g. four to six cylinder or six to eight cylinder), then an Approval Certificate is required as evidence that the vehicle in its modified form is safe and meets all the applicable construction and emission regulations for that model. It is recommended that a VASS signatory is consulted before commencement of this type of modification.
Does this then mean if i get a mod plate I'll be all sweet.
[Updated on: Sun, 25 April 2004 09:00]
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