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what do u know about the JZA70?
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Fri, 23 August 2002 17:36
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Hey all,
I'm looking into getting a JZA70 and was hoping some of you in here knew a bit about them and maybe some owners in here could help me out. So far i know they're a 2.5 6cyl twin turbs and were released in japan 1990-93. They also released a 'GT twin turbo R' version. What i would like to know is that were they released anywhere else? is the 1jz-gte better then the 7mgte (personal opinion maybe?)? What extra has the 'GT tt R' got? how rare are either of these to find in australia and also in japan? How does compliance go with the jza70? All info greatly appreciated!
-Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Fri, 23 August 2002 17:52
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I've never owned one, but i can help on a couple of the questions.
they were never released in australia (hence can be complied as an import), and your best bet is to import one from japan, as I've never seen one for sale in oz.
the 1jz-gte is better than the 7m-gte ... I dont think anyone will argue that (well, maybe a few, but general concensus). more power, more torque (slightly), more reliable, more fuel efficient... everything you want
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sat, 24 August 2002 00:39
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ive actually seen JZA70's show up quite a few times in the trading post over the course of a year or so, be sure to keep an eye out every thursday.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sat, 24 August 2002 00:49
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I actually own a jza70 5 speed, less than 5% were made as manual.
Mine is also a factory sunroof , not the targa, of which there is only 2 in Australia, so I am told.
The 1jz motor is pure bliss, with huge potential and morethan enough grunt stock to motor the heavy body very quickly.
The main differences btween the type r's and the normal ones was recaro seats (which now look very dated), they also didn/t have ABS and some of the other luxuries. resulting in about a 100kg less weight.
Personally I would notpass up on the 14 way adj. electric seats and ABS just for some dinky door inserts and a pair of 80's fasion seats.
They also come with a few perofrmance things , better exhaust ( who keeps em stock anyway ??) torsen LSD ( which a lot have as an option anyway - mine does) and other trim details.
They are out there for sale, you should be able to get a neat auto for less than 15g.
Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sat, 24 August 2002 02:33
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I agree - plenty of power, and a good reliable drive with heaps of potential. I wouldn't be too put off with issues of servicing, ans all the consumables are reasonably easily available (due in part to the number of 1jz soarers around as well)
Plenty of luxury car touches with Supras like climate control AC, a steering wheel that you can flip up to get out of your gut's way when getting in and out of the car, and lit keyholes in the doors so you can find them at night.
Those things are trivial when you compare them to the obvious power benefits over the stock 7m-gte (my wife has a MA 70 supra). It's just a classy sports tourer with (in my opinion) a nice shape that just stands out of the ordinary.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sat, 24 August 2002 10:33
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hi matt 
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sat, 24 August 2002 13:56
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Thanx draven and rob.
hey TOYO3T, can i have your car? And do you own a soarer as well?
Mel, where about in adel are you?
and how did both of you get hold of your jza70's???
hey gav, how's the croozer?
-Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sat, 24 August 2002 14:02
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glad to help
Your best bet is still to import one from japan. You could almost certainly get one from there, manual, for less than $15k landed, complied, and registered (probably a few thousand less)
and toyo3t... I want your car as well
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sat, 24 August 2002 14:13
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cressy's doin fine alarms in now, got the springs in this morning - vvvery low!!! hehe will need short stut rears tho, and a slimmer rear muffler
try going to performance forums and do a search for a guy called "brocky" he's claiming to bring in cars and ADR them with only a small margin for himself, might be useful for you...
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sun, 25 August 2002 15:57
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No Message Body
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sun, 25 August 2002 16:17
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draven, still reckon there's a chance of getting a manual given the lack of how many they produced? Would be nice tho i'm too young for an auto... Did the manual ones come with the aerotop as well as a sunroof version then?
Gav, when i get her in what ya say we go for a run? hehe I'll have to look brocky up now then!
-Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sun, 25 August 2002 16:58
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I have no idea as to whether the manual came in sunroof or not...
and I'm positive you could find a manual JZA70 in japan... positive.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Mon, 26 August 2002 05:57
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JZA70 supras can not be imported into australia under new laws, as they were sold here. If anyone wants detailes, check the australian government vehicle importation website. (RVCS?).
supras older than 15 years can be imported, as can JZA80's.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Mon, 26 August 2002 14:30
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hey supraman, are you sure they were released in australia? and if so, how many were sold here?
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Tue, 27 August 2002 00:55
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I don't think the JZA70's themselves were released here in Australia, I think its because they sold the MA70 versions here that is the problem.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Tue, 27 August 2002 02:10
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MA70s were released here, but they were eligable to be imported/complied too. however, as of may this year, they were removed from the import list and now you cannot import any A70 series supras unless they are over 15years old.
This means that u can import an 87model or older, and an 88mdl come january 2003.
Basically the only way ull be gettin a jza70 now is by getting one already here in OZ.
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Tue, 27 August 2002 03:13
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Yes, the JZA70's were released here, I dont know how many, but I put in a successful bid in on a 1990 JZA70 supra in japan only 3 days ago. Unfortunatly, I soon found out through my importer that they are not eligable for import here, because they were sold here. That is why they are not eligable for import anymore, as they were sold here in volume. I had to withdraw my offer I made, and am now waiting for a suitable model to come up at the auctions in japan.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Wed, 28 August 2002 10:24
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thanks guys... damn pity tho... *throws dreams out of window* I guess i'll have to wait for over 2 years to import one or maybe look at getting a 7mgte till then. Or put the 1jzgte in an old school celica.?. Supraman, how much was your successful bid (if u don't mind me asking)? and what model are you going after now?
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Wed, 28 August 2002 11:33
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Who was that Manny, that had the legit jza70 ??
I thought only mine and Andy's were the only jza70's there and neither are aussie delivered.
Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Wed, 28 August 2002 11:39
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Don't recall who it was but do recall talking to the owner about it being locally delivered - may have been a VIC plate, but can't be certain - it was before lunch though as I left by 12.30.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Wed, 28 August 2002 11:48
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Burgundy coloured with stock rims - made 190 rwkw in warmup mode, VIC or SA plate ( blue and WHite) thats Andy, its an import.
Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Wed, 28 August 2002 12:02
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Well if it's an import then it was not him that I spoke to or the car that I saw the Aussie compliance plate for - up until that point I was lead to believe that all JZA70s were imports, so the fact that I saw a compliance plate as opposed to a green low volume import plate was significant enough for me to ask the question of the owner - I even thought it may have been a MA70/1J conversion until the owner verified it as a genuine JZA70 and pointed out the JZA70 on the ID plate and that they were in fact locally delivered.
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Wed, 28 August 2002 12:12
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OK
now I am interested !!
WHat did the rest of the car look like ?
Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Wed, 28 August 2002 14:39
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There would be little differences noticable from the outside, like Japanese JZA70's would have yellow parking lights ( those small lights just to the side of the upper grill), wheras Australian cars have to have white lenses sitting next to the yellow indicators. The guys who complianced my import just took the globes out of my foglamps, and wired an extension wire from the parking lights down to the foglamps, then housed a pissy little globe there. The silicone boots didn't fit back on, so they left them off,and the foglamps would regularly fill back up. (obviously my car has been returned back to standard foglights).
Other things to look for would be bolts that hold the side intrusion bars in the doors (rusting and non-factory), the seatbelts (replaced with new but el-cheapo types, and non-standard tyre placard / underbonnet sticker with idling RPM and servicing intervals (the Japanese one will be written in Japanese). Of course Japanese cars may have a buzzer (disconnected) still under bonnet or in cabin that activates when the speed is > 105 kph.
[Updated on: Wed, 28 August 2002 14:40]
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Wed, 28 August 2002 23:57
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The bid was 55,000 yen (about $900 Australian)
The 1JZGTE motor was blown though, and needed replacing.
It would have cost about another $2,000 australian to get into sydney.
All up, with compliance(about $2000)(which i found out is not possible anymore) would bring it to $5,000 plus $3000 for a new 1JZGTE installed.
A cheap, $8,000 JZA70, with only 115,000km on the clock.
Currently I am on the waiting list for a 86-87 Targa MA70 (turbo)
Or get a cheap MA/GA70 with blown motor, so I can put a 1JZGTE in it !!!!
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Thu, 29 August 2002 16:45
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| jza70-mel wrote on Thu, 29 August 2002 12:39 AM |
There would be little differences noticable from the outside, like Japanese JZA70's would have yellow parking lights ( those small lights just to the side of the upper grill), wheras Australian cars have to have white lenses sitting next to the yellow indicators. The guys who complianced my import just took the globes out of my foglamps, and wired an extension wire from the parking lights down to the foglamps, then housed a pissy little globe there. The silicone boots didn't fit back on, so they left them off,and the foglamps would regularly fill back up. (obviously my car has been returned back to standard foglights).
Other things to look for would be bolts that hold the side intrusion bars in the doors (rusting and non-factory), the seatbelts (replaced with new but el-cheapo types, and non-standard tyre placard / underbonnet sticker with idling RPM and servicing intervals (the Japanese one will be written in Japanese). Of course Japanese cars may have a buzzer (disconnected) still under bonnet or in cabin that activates when the speed is > 105 kph.
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hey, do u know how to disconnect that ding dong shit that comes when I go over 105ks??? That gives me the complete shits!!!!!!
But it does help prevent me from going over the limit...coz the noise is just friggen annoying!!!
EDIT: Also, do u know how to get rid of the reversing truck noise when u got it in reverse??? That's okay, but it's annoying still.
[Updated on: Thu, 29 August 2002 16:46]
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Fri, 30 August 2002 09:26
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Manny: If that car is real it would have been a test car by Toyota Australia. Toyo Aus was testing the JZA70 for import but high prices of the car and the fact it only was short lived to the JZA80 was due they didn't bother.
To this date Toyota Australia has not imported a car with a 1JZ engine in it.
At this point though I must tell you I am most sceptical about this car you speak. If in fact the car is real it would be nice to see the build plate.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Fri, 30 August 2002 10:57
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Manny I spoke to Andy again today, it was his jza70 you saw and no it was not Aussie delivered, he has no green or yellow plate, basically the car was never complied but "reshelled" in vic, as an australian car, it is all jza70 though.
Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Wed, 04 September 2002 11:43
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If it proves impossible to get a JZA-70 in Adel, you could always get an MA70 and then a JZA-70 front cut..then do the engine swap yourself. This combination can be registered in SA. It depends on just how keen you are!
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Wed, 04 September 2002 16:15
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I was thinking about that, but how hard would it be to find a good body MA70 (with a blown engine so i can hopefully get it cheap), then how much for a jza front cut? then i gotta find the time to convert it  That brings another question tho, is all the running gear the same between both cars? (gearbox, diff etc). Could be a good project if i had the time tho!
-Matt
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sat, 07 September 2002 06:08
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It's fairly easy to get a MA70 with a good body - just watch out for accident damage but they don't seem to suffer from rust.
I did the 1jz conversion to my NA MA70 and all up cost was around $6,000 (manual front cut $4,500) - doing all the work myself except the exhaust. Took around 7 weekends but everything does bolt up from the front cut - even the exhaust! You should get the front tailshaft with the front cut - this bolted up fine to my MA70 rear tailshaft.
Most MA70's now have many km's on the clock and a high km one would be cheap. I paid $11,000 grand for one (5 speed manual) that said it had done 165,000 but the motor turned out to be f#*$ed and the odometer must have been wound back. I could have bought one with 280,000 k's on it for $6,800.
It is a good project if you have the time, money, patience and space.
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Re: what do u know about the JZA70?
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Sun, 08 September 2002 11:36
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I've seen Lumpy's car and it looks just like mine under the bonnet. I think if you really want a "JZA70" and cant find one, and you can spare the dosh and time - go for it! Feel the power of the 1jz!
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