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bbdond
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1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 06:06 Go to next message
Another question about my 1G-GTE Very Happy

I have currently got a 2.5" straight through exhaust on my 1G GTE RA60 and the turbos only hit full boost around 4300rpm, does this mean i need more back pressure in my exhaust by eg using a baffle muffler or something??

Does back pressure in the exhorst help the car spool earlier but decrease top end power??

I just want to try get the car boosting earlier Sad .

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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THE FREEER UR EXHAUST FLOWS THE FASTER UR TURBOS SPOOL UP

JUST CHEKT HAT UR INTERCOLER PIPING HAS NO LEAKS IN IT OR HASNT BLOWN OFF , AS THIS WILL CAUSE IT TO LOOSE POWER

MINES ON FULL BOOST AT 3000 RPM I THINK , AND PULLS 8-9PSI

EVERYTHING STOCK
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have a 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust with a cat and a straight through muffler and have no problems.

W/A intercooler though.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DO U HAVE A MANDREL DUMP PIPE AS WELL OFF THE TURBO ,

WHAT BOOST ARE U RUNNING ,

I WANT TO BOOST MINE , BUT TOO SCARED AS IVE BEEN TOLD NOT TO BOOST TOO MUCH

AS IN REGARD TO THE ORIGINAL POST

DUDE I THINK MAYBE CHEK THE INTERCOOLER PIPING ,

IS THE CAR PINGING AT ALL ,
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude, turn off your caps lock key or everyone will think you're a moron who SHOUTS ALL THE TIME.

1G's can be safely boosted above the factory boost level, but don't go nuts or the turbos will have a limited lifespan. This has been covered many times before so do a search and you'll find all the info you need.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanksbro sorry bout the caps people i apologise for that

just hafta have them on for work and 4get bout it

yeah did some searching , found out different things , so still scared lolllllll

ive been told they run rich if u boost from factory , turbos will shatter , still dunknow what to think about wether they are ceramic or metal blades

so all tha s**t confused the s**t outtame

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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Factory dump pipe.
Stock 11psi (Gen 3 1G-GTE).
I know many people who run 14psi all day every day. I don't think you need to worry unless you go above that.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have A gen3 on 18psi boost Evil or Very Mad all day every day and no problems
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have a gen 3 on 15-17psi depends on the weather. Not a problem.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Fri, 30 April 2004 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fattony
what turbos are using on your car
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ChuckLandwehr
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Sat, 01 May 2004 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
While you have the bonnet up checking the intercooler pipes, Check you ignition timing is set to 10 Deg! Amazing difference to be had when its all operating at the factory specs.

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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Sat, 01 May 2004 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
approx. 12 degrees ignition timing and the right mix of octane boost found me another 7 or so kilowatts on the dyno.... on standrad boost I was pushing 145kw at the rears in shootout mode.
mine has full boost by 3500rpm, starts spooling at about 2300rpm...
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Sat, 01 May 2004 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Another problem may be that the waste gate is stuck open (various reasons) but I have seen it happen because of custom dump pipe flanges running too close to the flap valve, another reason may be that there is no c clip to hold the actuator
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Sun, 02 May 2004 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cheers for all the help boys!!

ill take it in to XTC in melb and see if they know, cheers Very Happy
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Sun, 02 May 2004 23:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey fellas thanks for all the info

how do i know weter mines a gen 3 or not , ive tried , the chart thing on the website with the injectors and ecu connections , but mine are totally different to the colours mentioned there , cant remember the colours now as im not near the car im at work
but this is what i have otherwise

1988 model soarer 1g-gte of course ,
front mount air to air cooler
i put a boost gauge on it and got around 8psi stock

the car is still a stocker , nothing has been changed xcpt the wheels and spark plugs

also will my car run really rich if i boost it to 12-14 psi as all u other peple are doing

how ur cars running fellas , is it too rich with that much boost

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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Sun, 02 May 2004 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sorry fellas also another question if u dun mind

what kind of oil are u people using

i have tried mobil 1 supersyn 5w-50 and wasnt very pleased as it was making the engine sound a bit harsh at cold start

then dumped the oil after about 1 month

put in castrol synth - r at 10w-60

and now its even harsher at cold start and i get the car vibrating as well

any of u guys got any idea as to what oil i should put in it , and what rating is should have am i using oil that too thin ?????????

help??????


thanks in advance
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
113rwkW does sound low for a 1G also. how much boost is it running at full boost?
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Gen 2 will make that sort of power at 14psi.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im makin that at 8 - 8(and a bit) psi, I have thought now that im a fucking dickhad because it may be that my taco might be out because of the conversion??? this could be why it is reading it hitting full boost at 4200....... i hope Very Happy
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4200 on an uncalibrated tacho would be 2800. Sounds about right. Maybe a bit laggy. Do you have a large i/c?
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nar man got the stock 1g front mount with the half cut? would it make a difference, do u think that 4200rpm would be around 2800rpm really, cuz that makes sence do u know how i could get this fixed??

cheers dude
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A six cylinder pushing 2800 revs will read 4200 on a four cylinder tacho. Smile

Apparently it's a $50 fix from any instrumentation place. I haven't done it though so I don't know for sure.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
do u have any idea how much it would cost me to high folw the ct12 turbos and if it would be worth it??

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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No idea, but I wouldn't think it'd really be worth the trouble/money.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bbdond wrote on Mon, 03 May 2004 17:15

nar man got the stock 1g front mount with the half cut? would it make a difference, do u think that 4200rpm would be around 2800rpm really, cuz that makes sence do u know how i could get this fixed??

cheers dude



what does your tacho say at limiter? What is the stock 1ggte rev limiter at?

[Updated on: Mon, 03 May 2004 11:22]

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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7200rpm
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
piss the twins off and slap a single on there. if you've got the money. if i had the money i would. ive had problems with boost and all that shit, but i found it was the intercooler piping, so i fixed it today, i might be the only one who has tried this but has anyone put a boost controller to each turbo?? tried it on the weekend, went nuts. Up To Something
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i strongly recommend that you DONT do this i have designing and selling boost control systems for several years now .
the problem with doing this is it is almost impossible to set the turbos up so that they both make the same boost .
although you will see your desired boost at the manifold this does not reflect what each turbo is doing

even when putting a boost controller on each turbo and measuirng the actual boost from each actuator line you still get varitions in boost under different load situations
the rson it seemd to go harder is you have possbile either reduced or increased significantly the length of this this will change the boost surge rpm but not avtually effect performace at the same boost
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dude i would love to wack a single turbo on there but i dont have the cash, on a uncalabrated taco what would about 7200 rpm be does any one know?? what turbo upgrades are good for the 1G and is it difficult to find em around??

cheers for all the help once again Very Happy
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i think therea blitz unit that replaces the ct12 for the 1g-gte , do a bit of search , supra man had some for sale some time ago i think , ask him he knows about them

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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 03 May 2004 23:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7,200rpm would show 10,800rpm on an uncalibrated tacho.

As for the turbo. Do a search. Smile
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Tue, 04 May 2004 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
a TO4 should be a sufficient single turbo upgrade for a 1GGTE. I remember reading on here about some other guy that does mid 12s with stock ECU, stock injectors and a T04 on his 1GGTE RA28.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Tue, 04 May 2004 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
T04 on a 2.0L would be too laggy IMO.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Tue, 04 May 2004 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
actually stueys to4 powered 1ggte is not that laggy at all . in fact its only about 500 rpm more lag than roller bearing setups.
12.49 on stock ecu with low 8 sec 1/8th mile times ....
not laggy at all

i believe its on FULL boost by 3500 rpm with good boost response by 2500 rpm .

watching the video form ther toyota nationlas its a damn good setup with similar launches to stock 1js ...

contact JT mechanical in newcastle .he set it up
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Sun, 18 July 2004 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
celicamad wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 18:31

actually stueys to4 powered 1ggte is not that laggy at all . in fact its only about 500 rpm more lag than roller bearing setups.
12.49 on stock ecu with low 8 sec 1/8th mile times ....
not laggy at all

i believe its on FULL boost by 3500 rpm with good boost response by 2500 rpm .

watching the video form ther toyota nationlas its a damn good setup with similar launches to stock 1js ...

contact JT mechanical in newcastle .he set it up



Or better yet, contact me, because I brought the kit in from Japan and sold Stu the kit. I get them in from Japan all the time, if anyone needs one.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 19 July 2004 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Actually is WAS VERY laggy and didnt make as much power . Jamie completley rebuilt the turbo to different specs to achieve the current result
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 19 July 2004 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I supplied a second turbo to them to use at a later date as well.
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 19 July 2004 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fair enough !!the final turbo although was born on the bench at JT mechanical . with jamie actually using components from his own turbo to come up with final model .

The specs of which hes keeping to himself .......dont blame him either
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Re: 1G GTE Boosting late Mon, 19 July 2004 11:06 Go to previous message
Im pretty sure it is not that hard to calibrate a tacho, as know they have two wires coming out the back normally a brown and an orange one. Tahcs are normally calibrated for a V8 when first bought, cut the orange or brown (not sure which) wire for a 6 cyl and the cut them both for a 4 cyl.
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