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wilbo666
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White faced dials...	Fri, 30 April 2004 07:17

Ok, another project that have up my sleeve I was sitting there thinking about how to implement it, and decided that to have the light shine out and light the "numbers" up, you would need to use a transparent material and print white onto it (plan was blue lights behind, hence blue numbers )....now I've never thought about printing white before, but you can't with a normal inkjet printer or laser printers Who / what can print white? Photo stores? Anyone else have any comments / experiences with trying to manufacture white faced dials? Cheers Wilbo [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: White faced dials...	Fri, 30 April 2004 13:02

maybe u can just use a white peice of paper..u know the sticker paper or watever u wanna use..and make a outline of what u want with like black then print it out and cut it to shape etc good luck [Report message to a moderator]

wilbo666
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Re: White faced dials...	Sat, 01 May 2004 08:41

Urgh the difficulty in cutting out numerous numbers and lines (for a somewhat sporty/complex design) seems a bit over the top Thanks for the input tho Cheers Wilbo [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: White faced dials...	Mon, 03 May 2004 08:01

dude white paper is transparent enought... get a blue light and shine it on the back, you'll see just print the black areas and voila! the numbers are white .. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: White faced dials...	Mon, 03 May 2004 13:22

what midnight said, just make sure you use a good quality printer that can do a real black, ie a decent laser or something, and maybe paint over some areas after to get good masking [Report message to a moderator]

wilbo666
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Re: White faced dials...	Tue, 04 May 2004 03:34

I want (ideally looks like its too hard to make happen) the numbers to shine blue... Your system will make the numbers black, so when back lit the whole face will lite up (and the numbers remain dark) as I see it? Cheers Wilbo [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: White faced dials...	Tue, 04 May 2004 07:21

If you've got white faces with clear numbers/lettering, how are you going to see them during the day with the lights off or even with them on for that matter? Unless the numbers were blue semi-transparent, then the lights could be normal/white & you'd still get the effect, plus they'd be visible blue in daylight. Dunno how the hell you'd do that though! [Report message to a moderator]

midnight
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Re: White faced dials...	Tue, 04 May 2004 14:15

ok ill explain it again... make ur white numbered dials on the computer. print onto white paper... the numbers are white.. the rest is black. now guess what happens if u shine blue light on the back?! the blue lights up the white... if you want all white faced dials you then put another white sheet over the top with outlines of the numbers, then your facia is white and the black layer below blocks out the blue light in all areas apart from the numbers [Updated on: Tue, 04 May 2004 14:18] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: White faced dials...	Tue, 04 May 2004 14:27

Or do what i did, i got it done with my corolla. Don't ask how much, i think $90 ( Saves time and effort ). EDIT Got some restoring dash mob to do it, havent seen it but about to [Updated on: Tue, 04 May 2004 14:28] [Report message to a moderator]

gabe
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Re: White faced dials...	Tue, 04 May 2004 14:33

The only way to do it properly is to get the dials screen printed on. This will last forever too, as any paper will perish in the car over the years, as will things like overhead projector transperencies and the like. Not that expensive too. Under a hundred bucks if you know where to go. Any image/images can be screen printed from a regular jpeg file onto individual dials or onto an instrument cluster. This is how I did mine, can provide pictures if needed. [Updated on: Tue, 04 May 2004 15:31] [Report message to a moderator]

wilbo666
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Re: White faced dials...

Wed, 05 May 2004 00:32

BigWorm wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 17:21

If you've got white faces with clear numbers/lettering, how are you going to see them during the day with the lights off or even with them on for that matter?
Unless the numbers were blue semi-transparent, then the lights could be normal/white & you'd still get the effect, plus they'd be visible blue in daylight. Dunno how the hell you'd do that though!

Indeed, I was thinking of printing the "white" onto some blue tinted material....but like you I'm not sure how the hell it would work!

Might have to get some free time Confused

so I can play around with it.

Cheers
Wilob

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wilbo666
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Re: White faced dials...	Wed, 05 May 2004 00:34

hey gabe, thats exactly what I was thinking, talk to a screen printer! pics would be awesome Cheers Wilbo [Report message to a moderator]

checks202
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Re: White faced dials...	Wed, 05 May 2004 01:21

Yeap they could do it to, im getting it tommorow so i can post some pics or try , thats if its any help or give's some idea. I basicaly got the olld pointy plastic taken out and replaced with some flat plastic. Left the lights as is. Made the writing and everything in blue, left the needles orange and made the background white. [Report message to a moderator]

gabe
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Re: White faced dials...	Wed, 05 May 2004 06:50

Ok fellas I will get pics up asap but it wont be until next week. No digicam access till then. Watch this space........ [Report message to a moderator]

riceburna73
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Re: White faced dials...	Thu, 06 May 2004 00:44

yeh I originally did mine on the scanner,and they came up ok,,, eventually I got a whole set of VDO white face dials,280km speedo,taco,volts,oil,fuel,it all looks factory as they fit perfectly....the speedo is electronic so I have a sick little digital readout with options on distance travelled,time for servicing etc...all up it was about $700 for the lot...also as they are rear lit I was able to get blue globes,and now they go exactly the same colour as my car of a night....which is a 73 celica...anyway check them out if you want a permanent solution... [Report message to a moderator]

wilbo666
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Re: White faced dials...	Thu, 06 May 2004 00:56

$700 is almost the worth of the car I don't think I'm after that sort of solution They would prbly look very nice tho Cheers Wilbo [Report message to a moderator]

riceburna73
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Re: White faced dials...	Thu, 06 May 2004 02:12

thats cool mate good luck... [Report message to a moderator]

checks202
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Re: White faced dials...	Mon, 10 May 2004 03:57

K, i got mine back. Got it done. Looks good and all but he filled all the o's. Owell it still looks good. Here is a pic of speedo. My idea was to have a go myself by editing this picture. And to colour it so looks cool then stick it on some cardboard. No need for printing white and i think it would look ok. If you want a pic of the white idlas just pm me . $700 seems alot!, i paid that to get woodgrain aswell. Anyways yea. EDIT forget to upload pic's [Updated on: Mon, 10 May 2004 03:59] [Report message to a moderator]

wilbo666
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Re: White faced dials...	Tue, 11 May 2004 01:18

That dial is a different design to mine (yours doesn't have any transparent sections...my numbers get lit up from behind, where as I'm pretty sure in you case they will be front lit... Cheers Wilbo [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: White faced dials...	Tue, 11 May 2004 02:06

Sorry about that, which dials do you have ? I got given a few globe cover's which are blue and mine's lite up from the behind. [Report message to a moderator]

wilbo666
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Re: White faced dials...	Wed, 12 May 2004 02:15

I could have sworn that looks the same as a ra28 etc sort of design (think its ra28..anyway), which I really thought were front lit...... do you have a pic of them back lit and lit up? Cheers Wilbo [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: White faced dials...	Wed, 12 May 2004 02:27

Dont have camera, that was scanned. Thats a KE38 dial. I know i have a digital camera somewhere in the house so i'll have a look. It looks great all lit up. EDIT K, i got of my but and tryed something. Didnt find the camera so i used the scanner. This time ina differnt way lol. It's a bit dark but you can see how it looks. Can't really light it up but hope this give's some sorta idea. Btw the white is where the woodgrain shine's K, just a warning, aint 56k happy really lol. 600Kb total http://members.optusnet.com.au/shadow0050/dial.jpg http://members.optusnet.com.au/shadow0050/woodgrai n.jpg [Updated on: Wed, 12 May 2004 03:58] [Report message to a moderator]

wilbo666
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Re: White faced dials...	Thu, 13 May 2004 06:58

I stand corrected! It does appear that yours are back lit. Nice work. Cheers Wilbo [Report message to a moderator]

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