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Location: Lost in the K hole
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Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 02:34
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anyone know what kind of numbers the 5M rods are capable of handling? and for that matter, is there any difference between the 5m-e and 5m-ge in terms of their rod construction?
obviously the yanks have been turbo'ing their 5mge's for a while, has anyone heard stories of rod failures from these things?
has anyone got some 5m-e or 5m-ge rods lying around that i can come have a look-see at?
cheers
ed
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Re: Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 02:42

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I am aware of a twin turbo 6MGTE putting out about 700 rwhp on stock rods (well they might have been shotpeened). It blew a head gasket .
Anyway, look for Jake Reed on the Mk2 Supra Yahoo group and chat to him.
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Location: Lost in the K hole
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Re: Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 02:46

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by my rekoning, the 6m would have the same rods as the 7m (which from memory are noticebly beefier than any 5m ones ive looked at) so a hi-power 6m doesnt quite count
actually, my memory is failing... the 7m rods *are* beefier, yes? (god you'd hope so...)
any ideas on the good ol 5mgte?
sustained output figures without failure?
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Location: 1st street on the right
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 05:59

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Ive got a 5m bloce/rods/pistons here you can have
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Location: Lost in the K hole
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Re: Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 06:37

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damn justin!
sounds like a plan. im really just after the rods... is it a GE or E ?? ive got my fingers half cossed that the 5mge rods are a bit beefier than the 5me rods - from memory the 5me rods looked pretty humble (common GT - you should know this one!)
i really really dont want to have to go buy new custom rods 
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Location: 1st street on the right
Registered: November 2002
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Re: Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 06:43

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Surely you know someone who can make them?
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Re: Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 06:45

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I know Sean used MTEU rods in his 5MTE. I know someone who has a whole short block or two.
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Location: Lost in the K hole
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Re: Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 09:09

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ca18de pins are also 20mm, floating type, internal C clip reatined. (83.00mm stock bore dia)
custom rods *could* be a goer, we'll see what turns up in the meantime. im not sacrificing the purchase of a house next year for some argo's + mahle + trd bits 
see what kind of BK dodginess we can string together again...
stage 3 BK
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Location: Lost in the K hole
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Re: Strength of 5M rods
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Sun, 02 May 2004 09:19
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oh dear, have a look at this pic... stock 7mge piston with maybe 0.8mm machined off the compression height. so say, what, a stock height (from edge of pin) of about, errr, 22mm??? 
aint no way on gods good earth one gets 7mm out of that sucker!! (not without going to a single compression ring anyway!)
3mm would be doable me thinks.. must be wary how close the top ring come to the chamber too, i hear n2o gets a little hot 
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