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 Does this seem suss to anyone else?
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Mon, 03 May 2004 15:30
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I was thinking I buying an 18RGEU from a person on this forum, there name will be with held for the time being (to avoid an interaction between s**t and the fan), so lets call them personX, but I just wanted some other peoples opinons about it.
It's got full efi gear, 2.25" zorst, gearbox, and the head gasket has just been changed, but I'm told hasn't been run since (thats an important bit) and the price was pretty good too. I was assured that the engine is fine but have only seen a few dodgy pics. The person is now looking for new engine (I won't say what to help protect there indentity, but it's alot newer then an 18RGEU)
Sounds like a nice engine and a good deal, however, after some detective work I discovered the following
| glenn wrote on Fri, 24 October 2003 17:02 |
For anyone out there thats interested i have two damaged motors for sale.
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18rgeu complete motor includes starter, dizzy, manifold, injectors, ecu, loom, etc. Water found mixed in with oil when sump plug was undone....
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Sounds like a head gasket or a cracked head, right?
And the reply form personX was
| personX wrote on Sun, 09 November 2003 21:09 |
Hows it going. I bought the other engine off ya and am still interested in the one you have left. Thought maybe i could pay it off like $50 a week as im a bit broke. Just got a 76 celica to put it into. By the way is your celica a ta23 or ra23.Let me know. Does the engine still have a dizzy in it.
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Then I found this
| mrsoopra wrote on Mon, 29 March 2004 13:16 |
Hi guys,
Was cleaning up the garage at mums place and found my old 18RG (*sigh*) , a friend bought the bottom end already, but the head is still for sale. Its complete (cast 88250), with camshafts, polished ports, valves & seats were recut about 2,000 kays before i pulled the engine out, no inlet or exhaust manifold. Looking for $200ono .. Was perfect when it was in the car, pulled the engine out for a 3TGTE conversion.
In Melbourne
Cheers
Gaz
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And personX's reply to this thread
| personX wrote on Fri, 02 April 2004 19:35 |
can u send to brissy. findout how much for postage and then we can talk.
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Do other people think that I would be correct in the assumption that the person in question has brought the engine in the hope that it's only a head gasket, but after replacing it they found it was a cracked head, then they have decided to sell it to recoupe (is that the same as rebuilding a coupe? hehe) the cost of the engine, or am I just thinking about this way too much?
It's would be way too much money for the engine especially if it had a cracked head, and I don't have alot to spend being a poor uni student. Anyones opinions would be appreciated.
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January 2004
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Re: Does this seem suss to anyone else?
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Tue, 04 May 2004 01:22
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IF your feelinf iffy about the motor then don't buy it, i bought my 4AGZE from a guy on the fourms, and i've had a few problems with it,( found bolt for engine mount snapped in block) but they are easily fixed.(if you have money) My dad just imported an 18RGEU from NZ, it's still on it's way so i can't tell you if it's good or not but it was only 1300 delivered, and i'm in canberra! and the motor come's with most parts. cu,loom,alternator,a/c. well, just my 2cents
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Tue, 04 May 2004 01:38
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Yeah, thats was my feelings as well. But the main reason I was interested in it was because it's a genuine 82270 casting, so there no point in buying it if the main part I'm after is broken. And while a cracked head is easily fixed, finding another efi head might not be.
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Rocklea qld
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February 2003
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Tue, 04 May 2004 12:10
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How this for a deal....You go fuck yourself and ill keep my engine and you loose the best deal you will most likely ever get....Just because it had a problem when it was purchased doesnt mean it still does. It has a new head and the old one (which nothing is wrong with) was sold to Mr Dohc. Also a few dollars were spent on everything else. I only wanted to go the 1ggte because people offered me a cheap one and everyone says how good they are. In closing there is nothing wrong with this engine as it was all done properly and was gonna be used for turbo but if you dont want it then dont buy it. Or is that to hard to do. Why drag other people into the way you dont trust someone. And if you have all these toyota experts and gurus as friend why not just get them to get ya a engine.
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Gold Coast
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October 2002
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Tue, 04 May 2004 12:34
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i dont think calling him person x and then quoting his posts will keep him unknown  .
people100 has done alot of work on the motor and intended it to go into his own car. He is selling it because he found a better deal (1ggte off charles maybe??  )
if there was a crack in the head and he bought a new reconditioned head wtf is the problem? If he bought a $250
reconed head instead of spending $500 wouldn't you do the same?
the old head is fine phil (mrDOHC) is rebuilding it now so its already had a pressure test to make sure its worth rebuilding.
But i understand your position i am a poor uni student too and if your that worried buy an engine locally so you can check it out yourself, or get someone to have a quick look at the motor. Im sure it could be put in a car turned over to check compression if you were a serious buyer.
as for your detective work dont give up ur day job  
Daniel
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Wed, 05 May 2004 08:57
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well said.......
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Wed, 05 May 2004 10:26
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well now that i know who the people are in the dealing.. they are all reputable members of the forum..so i doubt they would screw you
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August 2003
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Wed, 05 May 2004 14:01
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I can vouch for people100, no dogey dealings at all.
If you're worried about the engine, like munki said, source a local one so that you can inspect it.
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April 2004
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Re: Does this seem suss to anyone else?
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Wed, 05 May 2004 14:16
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mis-communication!
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January 2004
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Thu, 06 May 2004 02:31
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| SoarerFury wrote on Wed, 05 May 2004 23:46 |
mis-communication!
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Exactly, I was never told that it had a new head, maybe if I had then things would be different. I was never told that it had all this stuff done to it. I was simply told it was an 18R-GEU with a new head gasket and sump gasket, but once it was running it was gonna be stripped down and rebuilt for turbo.
People100: Why would you strip a supposedly good engine to put turbo on?
All you had to do was tell me that it had a new head, and had the rest of this stuff done but you never did.
I might just get my friends to source me an engine, and there will be no doubts about the condition.
As for me bringing other people into it, would you risk buying an engine that had a cracked head if you hadn't even seen it, especially if it's someone you haven't even meet.
As for it being the best deal of my life, I'm sure if I brought it and it had a cracked then then it would have been the shitiest deal of my life.
I'll build a better RA23 then you could ever imagine, with the timeslips and skidpan tests to prove it, then you can go fuck yourself.
[Updated on: Fri, 07 May 2004 01:46]
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April 2004
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Thu, 06 May 2004 07:02
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Lachie, you said
"Exactly, I was never told that it had a new head, maybe if I had then things would be different"
And in the same paragraph
"I was simply told it was an 18R-GEU with a new head"
Contradiction much?
Ive been burned buying sight unseen before, and i would feel the same way. Can understand where you're coming from.
Just buy a local motor, and be sure its a good one. If you want a job done properly, do it yourself.
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Rocklea qld
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Thu, 06 May 2004 07:34
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I was gonna strip it put turbo on. (havent you heard of LOWERING compression) and as for me getting people in to defend me i never asked anyone. You wrote this STUPID thread on your own so deal with people having a go at you. If you could source a better engine through your friends why didnt you just do that in the first place. I think ill just wait for another post in the parts wanted section when you cant find another cheap engine.
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Fri, 07 May 2004 01:51
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Mitchy: Opps, my bad, I meant new head gasket, as this is all I was told, I was never told any thing about the head except that the the valves seats still had a good amount of material left on them.
As for buying a local engine, I would but I can't find one with a 82270 head in SA that people want to part with
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