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SC14 Supercharger
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Thu, 06 May 2004 16:46
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Hey guys and girls,
I've got a Ford TX3 and a 1.8 litre motor. My mate has a spare SC14 supercharger with the goodies for me to use.
Just wondering, what costs am I looking at to get the thing on? What mods would need to be done? I've seen the SC12 charger put on things like mirages and lancers.
Any input would be appreciated.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Thu, 06 May 2004 23:16
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How long is a piece of string? It depends where you can put it, how much room is available, and how much custom fabrication work is involved. I'm no expert on Mazda's so I couldn't answer any of those questions. Your best bet is to get your trusty measuring tape out and start measuring!
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November 2002
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Fri, 07 May 2004 02:43
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There is no real answer to this question, as Norbie said, if you give the job to a custom manufacturer or do most of it yourself.
You can consider using an air-con compressor mounting bracket as a starting point to attach the S/C then you have to organize a belt, custom inlet and outlet piping, modified inlet manifold, new fuel mapping and or additional injectors to handle the air flow increase, electronic control for the S/C, the list goes on. No such thing as a free lunch.
Mitch.
PS: Do you plan to make it all legal and insurable ? I don't want you hitting me or anyone I know in an illegal car your insurance company won't touch !
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Location:
Canberra, Australia
Registered:
October 2002
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Fri, 07 May 2004 07:19
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Ok so from what I can see...
- piping, got the hook up for that
- brackets, my mate can weld stuff on for me
- injectors, can be hooked up with a set of BP Turbo injectors
- belts, may have to look into that. Any suggestions here?
- manifold, may have to see who can help me with that. Exhaust places do this, no?
- In regards to electronic control for the S/C, does that work off the ECU? Can I get a place to modify my factory computer for this?
Sorry if I sound a bit stupid, but engines aren't my forte 
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Canberra
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November 2003
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Fri, 07 May 2004 14:35
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Belts - Any standard 5 rib belt will do. You just gotta find one the right size then add a tensioner in there. you may also have to get a new pulley made to put on your crank in order to drive the blower. Something ~165mm in diameter should be good.
Electric Clutch - Wire up a switch to turn it on & off.
Also you need to figure out if you want to run a blow thru or suck thru setup.
Blow thru - ie blower b4 throttle body, will allow you to run a BOV etc and boost will hit you a bit harder as all that pressure in the intake piping is stored up waiting for you to open the throttle.
Suck thru - ie throttle body b4 blower IMO is the better option in that you can control air flow more by use of the throttle body. Also boost is more controlled and smooth this way, which in a FWD car will be better for traction. You dont have this huge buildup of pressure just waiting to pour into the inlet, instead the throttle body sort of "chokes" the blower so that it can only pump as much air as u allow.
Those are my basic understandings anyway
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Location:
Canberra
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November 2003
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Sun, 09 May 2004 07:51
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That is true, but isnt that what the vacuum hoses are for on the blower? so it will be fine to run the TB after the blower. I know of a couple of VLs that have used the SC14 before the TB with no worries at all. Obviously running the TB before the blower is the better option, but its not to be said that you cant do it the other way.
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Location:
Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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March 2004
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Sun, 09 May 2004 19:47
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Does the TX3 run AFM or TB/MAP injection..?
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Sun, 09 May 2004 23:00
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It is possible to do it that way, but it is horrendously inefficient; the pumping losses would be huge! Why not set it up the way Toyota intended instead of bodging it up?
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Location:
Canberra, Australia
Registered:
October 2002
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Thu, 13 May 2004 23:30
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| Fruitloop wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 05:47 |
Does the TX3 run AFM or TB/MAP injection..?
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Dunno, how can I tell?
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March 2004
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Fri, 14 May 2004 15:46
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Is there a AFM (air flow meter) (generally but not always) between the Air filter and and the throttle body..?
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Location:
Adelaide, South Oz
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Sun, 30 May 2004 09:36
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Bluewire runs a 18R-GEU with a SC14 before the stock TB with a BOV.
Its the weirdest sounding engine ive ever heard... very cool.
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Well after a bit of changes Bluewire has now got two TB, a Ford EF TB in the left side front gard.
Before the Supercharger as well as after the Supercharger.
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Location:
Rocky Mountains, Canada
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May 2002
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Re: SC14 Supercharger
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Sun, 30 May 2004 14:27
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Errr... why both?
Only the one before is needed.
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