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18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Fri, 07 May 2004 07:47
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hey guys, just a quick one, im looking to replace the clapped out 2sc motor in my sa63 and a mate as an 81 corona i think with an 18R. that wouldnt fit would it, and itd be slower than a 2sc right?
i dont really know. hey if anyone knows, ryleys old brown celica (1982 i think)...was that a pushrod?
ryley bwa
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brisbane
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March 2003
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Fri, 07 May 2004 07:51
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an 18r would be good they are a good rerliable motor but yeah not so fast... you will haveta get emissions right for that model car
anther option might be a 22r carb from hilux?
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sat, 08 May 2004 03:12
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the 2sc would eat an 18r i think man, they're pretty crappy...
plus you'd have to get mounts and crossmembers and shit from an ra60
it was sohc too 
put a 4age (clinton's motor) in it
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I Supported Toymods
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melbourne.vic.au
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May 2002
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sat, 08 May 2004 05:08
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| Evil_Foetus wrote on Sat, 08 May 2004 13:12 |
the 2sc would eat an 18r i think man, they're pretty crappy...
plus you'd have to get mounts and crossmembers and shit from an ra60
it was sohc too
put a 4age (clinton's motor) in it
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4AGE! Why 1.6 from 2 litre?
Just fix it up and drive it... That is what I did to my SA63 
Cheers.
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sat, 08 May 2004 07:57
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| ZZT231 wrote on Sat, 08 May 2004 15:08 |
| Evil_Foetus wrote on Sat, 08 May 2004 13:12 |
the 2sc would eat an 18r i think man, they're pretty crappy...
plus you'd have to get mounts and crossmembers and shit from an ra60
it was sohc too
put a 4age (clinton's motor) in it
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4AGE! Why 1.6 from 2 litre?
Just fix it up and drive it... That is what I did to my SA63
Cheers.
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coz a 4age would rock pretty hard in a car that weighs only 1150kgs... the 2s-c is only 73kw whereas the 4age are 86kw and 100kw respectivley...
but anyway, grants only lookin at shit on the real cheap...
so i suggest looking for a fuct corona/sa63 in the papers, trading post, somewhere, for like $300.... and theres your 2s-c.
[Updated on: Sat, 08 May 2004 07:58]
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sat, 08 May 2004 10:40
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| Evil_Foetus wrote on Sat, 08 May 2004 17:57 |
coz a 4age would rock pretty hard in a car that weighs only 1150kgs... the 2s-c is only 73kw whereas the 4age are 86kw and 100kw respectivley...
but anyway, grants only lookin at shit on the real cheap...
so i suggest looking for a fuct corona/sa63 in the papers, trading post, somewhere, for like $300.... and theres your 2s-c.
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Going the 4A also means you need to fabricate the engine mounts and install the ECU and loom which equals  .
It's cheaper and easier to find a ST141 Corona at bargin basement prices.
Cheers.
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brisbane
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March 2003
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sat, 08 May 2004 12:36
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guy in brisbane put an 18rg in hes ra65 he said it wasnt to hard
but a 22r would be cool.. bolt straight in
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sat, 08 May 2004 12:39
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4AG = use AA63 Xmember etc, then it (obviously..) bolts right in. If you're just having issues with the 2S, I'll letcha have a reasonable one dirt cheap
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sat, 08 May 2004 12:47
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| mrshin wrote on Sat, 08 May 2004 22:39 |
4AG = use AA63 Xmember etc, then it (obviously..) bolts right in. If you're just having issues with the 2S, I'll letcha have a reasonable one dirt cheap
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If you can find the cross member in Australia of course 
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sat, 08 May 2004 12:50
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Yeah, I've seen a coupla of halfcuts wrecked out for the engines, so they DO exist - but hey I'm just looking for an excuse to get rid of my old 2S here and would rather not see a good engine go to scrap metal. If you were dirt keen on the 4AG, I could probably find someone with the bits too.
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sun, 09 May 2004 06:56
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mr shin-
he's probably most interested in just replacing the 2s-c-
what is yours like? condition, kms, anything nasty wrong with it?
cheers, ill pass it all onto him
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Location:
Ballarat
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September 2003
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Sun, 09 May 2004 09:45
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well im going to try to get the corona for 200 bucks for the car, ill probably insult him haha. but if im successful...rumour has it the car may be fitted with a roll cage and bashed.
like my sa63, without the roll cage 
around how much would you be willing to part with the 2sc dude?
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November 2002
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Mon, 10 May 2004 03:35
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the crossmember in the RA60 for the 21R engine bends the opposite way than that for a 18R/18RG motor ?
Cheers,
Mitch.
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Mon, 10 May 2004 12:53
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The 2S? Yeah I started it up in the car, it ran fine, didnt blow smoke etc., drove it round the backyard a few times (car was too bent to drive further) then wrecked it. How much? I guess I'm basically happy to see it go to a good(!) home, any small contributions are well received
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Location:
Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Tue, 11 May 2004 01:26
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mr shin:
ill pass it onto him- he works all nights and therefore is never up in the daytime.
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VIC, Sth Frankston.
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July 2003
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Tue, 11 May 2004 02:12
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crazy to put an 18R in a thing so beautiful as the sa63 
swap in a 3s-ge. Pretty cheap (st162), efi, etc. Just gotta use most of the shit from the 2s-c. minor things like water outlet on the back/dizzy cap on the back, etc. But if u want to keep the car, worth it. If not, just slap in another 2s, shin has em coming out his ears.
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 18r into an sa63, yes/no?
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Tue, 11 May 2004 04:06
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A 3S-GE into any RWD platform is not a simple thing to do, unless you're using an Altezza engine of course. If it was simple you'd see people doing it all the time, but in fact it's quite rare.
The major headache is the manifolds which point in the wrong directions and foul important stuff, like the bonnet. These problems can be fixed but not easily or cheaply.
I can't see a problem with a late-model 18R-GEU into an SA63. These were factory fitted in JDM RA63's, and it's certainly a huge improvement on the 2S-C.
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