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Oil filter removal tool for 4A engine
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Mon, 10 May 2004 07:52
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Hi all,
I've been wanting to change my oil for a long time, it's probably about 12,000k overdue infact.. oops. but the thing is, the oil filter wont budge at all. I've previously tried a few removal tools from auto shops but none are small enough to grip the filter. I've called toyota and they say they only have them in the service shop and wont sell me one.
Any ideas where I should go to get one?
its to suit a Toyota 4A-FE engine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Doug
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Mon, 10 May 2004 07:57
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the best one for that sized filter is the two sided remover, you can get it from auto one or repco. or if your a tightass, just stick a screw driver thru it and turn it off.
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Re: Oil filter removal tool for 4A engine
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Mon, 10 May 2004 07:58
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Hey Doug,
A mate of mine bought a Toyota one for the 4A/3S etc (I think 4AFE is the same?) and I thought he said he got it from Toyota.. It might pay to try calling around a few different places to see if you get different answers..
Peter Warren at Warwick Farm have always been fairly helpful to me, although the best bloke there moved over to Penrith Toyota a little while back, so it might pay to try either of those.. Good luck - I've been meaning to get one of these myself.. Access is very tight to get at mine.
btw - Is this the same Doug that used to frequent these forums a couple of years ago? (White 4AFE AE92)?
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Re: Oil filter removal tool for 4A engine
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Mon, 10 May 2004 07:58
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Its called a screwdriver. Punch it through the filter and start turning.
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Mon, 10 May 2004 08:27
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There is a Toyota SST which i use after spraying oil all over my engine bay when i did the screwdriver trick. I decided that paying the $25 for the SST is far better than cleaning it up every time.
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Mon, 10 May 2004 08:29
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Yeah, same Doug..
how's it going Paul?
I havent really touched the car in a long time and my girlfriend has been pushing me to change her cars oil as well, which is a SX Seca, so it would just be better to get them both out of the way at once.
Screwdriver idea might work, just would rather do it without the possibility of excess oil splattering all over the place.
I have only tried the one Toyota parts shop sofar, so I may give others a go tomorrow.
Last time I was at repco they had nothing that small, but I'll keep them in mind too.
Thanks,
Doug
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Mon, 10 May 2004 09:05
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yeah, its in the most logical place possible.. right next to the exhaust manifold, and best accessed underneath, so I'm not really that tempted to go at it with a screwdriver just yet.
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Mon, 10 May 2004 09:38
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| draven wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 19:00 |
is it in a place suitable only for a proctologiest, like my 1jz one?
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I'd dare suggest that your 1J oil filter is probably easier to get to.. I know the 4AGE one is a bitch to do although I'm not sure if the FE has it in the same spot or not..
Imagine the space in a FWD Corolla engine bay, then imagine the smaller space between the exhaust manifold and the engine. Add a dizzy, alternator and starter motor all around the damn thing and you start to get the idea..
Doug - Good to see you back dude.. You'll have to start coming out to some events some time!
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Mon, 10 May 2004 09:48
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There is this tool simple titled "oil filter removal tool" that i bought for 25 dollars at autoone. I tried endlessly to remove my mr2 oil filter, its in a HARD spot to get at let alone use any tools in there. One tool i bought snaped it was on so tight......... anyhow, it looks like a metal claw and goes on the end of your sock wrench. worked a treat.
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Mon, 10 May 2004 09:48
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stock ma61 oil filters are fun to get to :/
stupid exhaust manifold gets in the way of my arm(and thus ouchies follow)
maybe its because i'm big and uncoordinated 
one of my mates has a late 80s camry with a 4a-fe(sure it is) and its not that hard to get to, not as hard as i find removing the one on my supra
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Mon, 10 May 2004 10:08
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I went to do oil change on gfs FE - couldn't find the thing for a while  . It's in simar spot to blue top GE but for some reason much more awkward and hard to spot (I thing the manifold hides it more). I took the drivers side plastic sump guard off which made it easier and used the rubber oil filter tool thingo (atleast I think I did). It's good to have one of those things your mum or grand ma use to undo tight jam jars..piece of non slip mat about 10cm by 10cm. They help to loosen (in some cases) and tighten it.
Here is procedure:
Take car round block, jack it up, secure with stand/s...drain oil. Let it sit draining for a good while (Go inside, have a drink with your gf, or whatever tickles your fancy..so car is relatively cool when you get back).
Now attack oil filter with enthusiasm and the above methods..screwdriver as suggested if you get desperate)
Cyber - Camry probably has 3SFE (2.0). 1.6L auto camry..that wouldn't be nice 
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Re: Oil filter removal tool for 4A engine
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Mon, 10 May 2004 10:35
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screwdrievr and an old shirt
cover scredriver and hand with shirt with point or screwdrievr sticking out
when oil spurts out after punching thru itcover with the old shirt
easy enough
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Mon, 10 May 2004 12:41
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get a bit screwdriver, and hit it at an angle around the top rim of the filter..it will undo trust me and it wont puncture the fiter
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Tue, 11 May 2004 01:15
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I always take mine off with my hand. Always tight, but never on so tight I can't remove it.
You wanna bitch about getting one off, try a GZ20 Soarer, it's under the inlet manifold, wedged against the wishbone tower and surrounded my air-con and PS lines. Needless to say, normal tools don't work 
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Tue, 11 May 2004 03:51
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I suggest screwdriver also... but usually I can get them off with just hands. Surprising since I don't have forearms like Popeye.
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Tue, 11 May 2004 07:26
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re-read my first post. get the tool i mentioned. i worked for toyota and have used the sst, the one i described is better and much easier, plus you can use it on other filters. trust me - the 2 sided oil filter remover, its black and fits on a 3/4 ratchet its the BEST!
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Tue, 11 May 2004 08:50
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i can sometimes pull them off bare hands but otherwies the filter wrench comes out. Failing that i have a hole drilled in near the handle of the wrench and a small screw tapped in this will undo anything! and doesnt make mess like a screwdriver will.
Daniel
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Tue, 11 May 2004 08:54
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Not trying to be a smart ass or anything but ummm, If you punch a screwdriver through it to undo it how would you inturn tightin it up?
Im just learning and all, never had to change one but thats the first thing that came to mind.
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Tue, 11 May 2004 08:56
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buy a new one stupid 
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Tue, 11 May 2004 08:58
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You missed my point lol. Lets say u get the old one out. So you chuck that old one in the rubbish bin and thats oghta the way.
You got ur new one, you sit it in and all but how do you tighten up the new one?
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Tue, 11 May 2004 09:09
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ooo ok, please excuse me im thick. All make's sense. Ty
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Tue, 11 May 2004 09:10
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sarcasm my man... 
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Tue, 11 May 2004 09:13
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we all start somewhere!
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Tue, 11 May 2004 09:18
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Haha, looks like a hand that's had a run in with SST #1...or a ski rope
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Tue, 11 May 2004 10:41
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 make some nice oil fiter tools.
ABW Tools
43 Clinker Street, Darra,
Queensland 4076
Ph: 07 3712-9999
Fax: 07 3712-9987
this type being one of my favourite.
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Tue, 11 May 2004 12:16
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heh, this is a longer thread than I was imagining it would be...
Okay, sorted it today.. picked up a bit that fits onto socket wrench with a tape (seatbelt material) loop that you wrap around the filter... then turn to tighten. Worked with very little fuss.
Thanks for your replies..
Doug
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Tue, 11 May 2004 20:51
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| THE WITZL wrote on Tue, 11 May 2004 19:01 |
i recommend "WST-005: The installer"
EDIT: thanks for the hand peewee
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BWUHAHAHAHAHHAHA
funny stuff
i love your spealised WST line of products
as a side note, you shouldnt do it up so tight that you cant undo it with your hand(unless you've pussy grip) this early in the morning i cant remember why i was told this but i know someone reliable told me....i think(damn 6:30ness)
the situ i mentioned above with mr beafcake was we couldnt get a screwdriver near the filter and couldnt slip a "remover tool" over it, i tried to undo it but i have afore mentioned pussy grip and it was so covered in grease and dust that i couldnt undo it.
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Tue, 11 May 2004 23:37
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the filter on the aw11 is a bitch to get at, i use a tool has a loop of steel strapping then a bolt like assembly to allow you to tighten it around the filter then turn.. $5 at an auto shop..
either that or the SST 09228-06500 from your friendly toyota dealer. thats the one for the 3S but seeing as its the same filter 90915-03004 iirc ? should do wonders.
but before you but $$$ ones for toyota try the loop ones worked a treat on the mr2 when my other ones wouldnt work.
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Re: Oil filter removal tool for 4A engine
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Wed, 12 May 2004 00:26
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So how tight does everyone do up their new oil filters? Has anyone read the istructions, that say do it up until it seats then give it another 1/2 or so turn, and to lube it with some fresh oil? 
I'm always careful to lube & not to overtighten my oil filters & they're always undoable by hand.
Does anyone else prime their filters by pouring a bit of oil in it? I find if I fill up the centre section & then roll the filter around a bit the oil gets soaked into the element & doesn't drip too much on install & the oil pressure picks up alot faster when you first start it.
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Wed, 12 May 2004 00:29
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Exactly as you just said. Give it a little bit of oil around the seat, tighten it till it's touching the seat and give it about another half turn. Always come off by hand.
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Wed, 12 May 2004 00:35
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yup seat then half turn, i still find on the aw11 its a shade hard to get out by hand though, the wrench/tool is just enough to loosen it.. on that note as well.. its pretty hard to actually put on in the first place so again the tool to tighten it on a bit.
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Wed, 12 May 2004 08:27
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I changed the oil on my girlfriends car today, realised that the 4A-GE has a lot more crap surrounding the oil filter than the 4A-FE engine bay, luckily for me the oil filter wasn't hard to undo at all, infact.. it was probably half the reason why she had oil leaking in the first place..
As with the preperation of the oil filter, I always pour a little oil inside and around the seal, so that next time it comes off without a fuss. (mechanic did the previous oil change in my car, where the filter was too tight)
Doug
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Re: Oil filter removal tool for 4A engine
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Thu, 13 May 2004 01:03
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just stick a screw driver thru it and turn it off.
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still works better than any oil filter tool!!
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Thu, 13 May 2004 11:03
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The oil filter tool shown in the picture is weak a apprentice broke it after a few weeks, ive got a listle? one (repco) as EVOSTI has pointed out if you REALLY want a toyota one call me ill get you one i work there. Note spare parts give me a fair discount not the best compared to other dealerships.
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