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Ipswich
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July 2002
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How long should an engine conversion take???
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Tue, 27 August 2002 06:56
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Getting it professionally done. Into the 4th week now and was quoted 2 weeks.
How long has it taken for everyone else?
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Berowra-Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Tue, 27 August 2002 06:58
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mine was done in a garage in a day but that was simply taking out one RC and puting in another RC
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Tue, 27 August 2002 07:05
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Took BD4s 3 months.
They quoted 3 weeks...
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Location:
Ipswich
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Tue, 27 August 2002 07:52
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How much labour did they charge???? How many hours???
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Tue, 27 August 2002 08:45
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Can't remember how many hours but it was a SHITLOAD of money. I think about $3k-$4k or so I think.
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Tue, 27 August 2002 09:17
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$3-$4k ?! fark max ... for that price you could have ... got something much nicer 
but you did it yourself, second time around didn't you?
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Location:
c'town, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Location:
Western Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Tue, 27 August 2002 09:51
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Sometimes a workshop will get busy with other smaller jobs that come in. When I give a (potential) customer an estimate on how long a big job like a conversion will take, I'll always add 'depending on what other work we have on, or how busy we are'.
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Location:
Canberra
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 01:44
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RA23 Sean:
maybe you can answer this for me, i'm not trying to be rude or critical, its just something i never understood about workshops.
Why does it matter if other 'small jobs' come into a workshop while your car is there for a big job?
If you book your car in for something like a conversion, why cant the time be dedicated to finishing that job, as its a guaranteed source of [large] income for the workshop? Why should a small job coming in the door un-announced (without a pre-booking) take preference over completing the conversion job??
I can understand that workshops dont want to turn any customer away because they are too busy, and risk never seeing them again, but why piss off the bloke who's car was quoted 3 weeks and has been sitting idle for the best part of two months or more? surely you would rather keep a high service level standard for the guy paying you $4k for the conversion, instead of keeping a $50 customer happy by doing his little job for him on the spot?
remember, this isnt a personal dig at you! I'm just sure that many people on here can relate to what i'm saying. Its all too common to have a job take more than double the time quoted.
Cheers
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 01:58
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Because you make more money doing a lot of small jobs than doing one big job...
Plus if you're already half way through the big job, there's not really anything the client can do...
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 02:02
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I know what you're saying. A few years ago I went to a mechanic once to have a 5M->6M swap done in my Supra (it was a warranty job, otherwise I would have done it myself). Incredibly, it took them 3 months to finish the job, and they charged me twice the original quote!
Don't ask me what they did in that time, but such a straightforward conversion should definitely NOT take that long. I have absolutely no intentions of letting a workshop hold my car to ransom again - my policy now is to do absolutely everything myself, apart from a few jobs I don't have the equipment for (eg exhaust system).
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 02:40
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I recon there should be something with toymods that do a conversion. Like a "Conversion Workshop", get a group of guys together that are enthusiasts (toymods members), borrow a workshop or something similar (decked out garage), and spend a weekend doing the conversion. For a lot of the normal engine swaps it should be able to be done in a weekend. For all the extended ones, after the physical conversion (engine and gearbox in) if it then needs wiring, get another member to tow it to an electrician (that has been recomended by a member).
There needs to be a list of good workshops, and bad workshops, otherwise people will keep going to the bad ones!
And yeah, BD4s (bastards) burnt me too. Charged 4 times the original quote and ended up not doing anything I wanted them to do (they make you write out a list). Not going back.
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Location:
Canberra
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 03:02
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my solution has also been to take my car to one, and only one workshop....... my shed!
my car hasnt been to a 'registered' workshop for 3 years, and i couldnt be happier. also means i can only blame myself if something goes wrong.
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 03:04
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Can I borrow your shed for a weekend?
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Location:
Canberra
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 03:52
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LOL! Only if you finish my engine conversion off for me first!
Phil
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Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 03:58
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What needs to be done? Theres gotta be someone here that can help.
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Location:
Canberra
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Wed, 28 August 2002 04:02
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i'm in the process of making engine mounts at the moment to get a FWD 4AGZE into a RWD corolla.
Its more of a problem of getting time to work on it more than anything!
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Location:
Western Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Thu, 29 August 2002 12:11
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TE72_Turbo, most of our time is spent on conversions and big jobs. When the smaller jobs come in, normally one guy will handle them while we're left to work on the bigger jobs. We had a car come in for wiring and exhaust this week. That's finished. We had another come in for wiring on Wednesday. Started today and should be finished tomorrow. We like to keep the bigger jobs moving in and out as fast as possible. Dead cars are a bastard to move around all the time.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Thu, 29 August 2002 15:52
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So I take it my mechanic won't take 3 days to put a 7MGTE in a GA70???
He reckons 3 days it'll take him to put it in, wire it up and get it running and is charging $400 + parts provided the engine goes straight in.
He said that if it's the same engine, it'll be 1-2 days and $300 + parts.
Other mechanics I went to for a quote say $700 + parts and will take 1 week.
Then I went to a performance mechanic and the guy quoted me $4000 + parts and 1 month to do it.
I want to get another engine put in, but I can't keep my car off the road for a long time. It was bad enough my car off the road for 3 days to get some of it resprayed.
So what is the realistic time an engine conversion takes?? Say provided no small jobs come through and stuff???
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Location:
Canberra
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Fri, 30 August 2002 04:12
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RA23_Sean
Thanks for the reply. Glad to see some workshops prioritise their work logically. You must be one of the few I reckon.
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Location:
Ipswich
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Fri, 30 August 2002 06:16
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Grrrr. My mechanic is starting to piss me off. Get this. It has taken him since tuesday till today to ring and book a tilt tray so my car can go to auto electrician. 4 FUCKING days to make a phone call.
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Location:
Western Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Fri, 30 August 2002 10:19
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Rattlehead, $300 to put your motor in sounds very cheap. Do you already have your motor out and all the parts needed? (MA70 crossmember etc). Does that $300 also include hooking up the exhaust? $300 is about 4 hours labour these days.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: How long should an engine conversion take???
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Fri, 30 August 2002 10:33
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Well, he says $300 for a straight swap.
So basically u get the engine and parts, and he'll take urs out and put the one u got in.
He could also order the engine and get it for u if u want, which u gotta pay for. It'll cost more if he gotta get mounts, mod the wiring ... So $300 is a straight swap, then extra on top of that.
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