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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Tue, 27 August 2002 23:21
 
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They're both exactly the same.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Wed, 28 August 2002 00:49
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if they are both exactly the same then why doesn't RA23 shocks fit in?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Wed, 28 August 2002 01:54
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Can't think of a reason why they wouldn't fit. Are you sure they're RA23 shocks? TA22 struts are different to RA23/28.
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Wed, 28 August 2002 02:00
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well when my brother got the car it had been lowered 2inches off the ground so we had to chuck springs in it to get it registered then when he went to change the shocks the front shocks wouldn't fit in, took it to a suspension place and apparantly it had different struts so the ra23 shocks didn't fit, maybe he is wrong as it was a fair few years ago so maybe its 22 and not 28's if it is 22's then whats the difference between them and 23? as i want to know if i should put 23's back in as i think the front might be a bit higher then the back.
is there a way i can check the struts to know what ones they are?
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near chris and murray vic
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July 2002
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Thu, 29 August 2002 01:49
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apparently the difference between 22-23 is an inch or two right up the top.....
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Thu, 29 August 2002 02:08
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meaning the car would be higher with 22 struts then it would be if it had 23?
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 06:53
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Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 07:08
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I have owned 22's and 23's the 22 stuts are shorter and have smaller brakes.
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 07:31
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ok so if i put 23 struts back in that would raise the front, well i won't be doing that then thanks mate.
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Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 07:46
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Just get the oxy out and cut the springs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Brisbane
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 09:16
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You can put RA23 struts in a TA22, but you have to cut off the spring supports and re-weld them lower on the strut to match the TA22 strut. I think there's a web site somewhere which has details on this procedure, but I can't remember where it is... do a search and you might find it.
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 10:08
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no i have a RA23 but ra23 shocks don't fit in the front i therefore thought it had 28 struts in it but then found out they are the same as 23 struts so then worked out my car must have 22 struts in it, i wanted to know the difference between the two as if my car does have 22 struts in it if i then put 23 struts back into it then would the front then be a little lower but i have been told that 22 struts are shorter then 23 struts so i will therefor leave the 22 struts in it as i don't want the front any higher.
gee's that gets confusing 
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 13:23
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Uh... your car is an RA23, so RA23 struts will definitely fit! Where's the problem? I must have missed something here...
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 13:38
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dude, tske a DEEEEEP breath - and explain it SLOWLY to the nice norbie!!!
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 15:46
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ok, hmm lets see if i can get it right this time.
my car is a RA23, when we first bought the car it was lowered to the point where it only had two inches ground clearance, we then chucked standard springs back in to get registered, then one day my brother went and bought 4 new shocks for the RA23, but couldn't get the front shocks in, so took it to a mechanic and they discovered that it doesn't have RA23 struts in the front, so they then put in the correct shocks.
my brother thought the guy said it had RA28 struts instead of RA23 struts, but as i have found out in this forum the 28's and 23's have the same struts, so therefore they must ben 22's struts in the front, and what i wanted to know was what the difference was between the 22 and 23 struts is. as i feel the front of the car is a little higher then it should be so i was wondering if its the 22 struts that are making it higher then i should go and get some RA23 struts and put them back in to lower the front down a little bit. but then i've been told that 23 struts are higher then 22 struts so if thats the case then i wont bother puting 23 struts back onto it.
in a nutshell..... will the front of my car be lower or higher if i put RA23 struts back onto it instead of the 22 struts that are on it now, keep in mind my car IS a RA23.
make anymore sense? i'm starting to confuse myself
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sat, 31 August 2002 16:02
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The ride height all comes down to what spring you use. The RA-23 struts will fit fine with the correct springs (and shocks) and one difference between the TA-22 and T/RA-23/8 is the TA-22s stub axles are smaller, so they wouldn't be as strong.
Which, I just realised, also means you must be running TA-22 discs & calipers (if the struts are TA-22s) because a '23 hub won't fit on a '22 stub axle, and I doubt the calipers would bolt up either.
I say get those RA-23 struts back in, there is absolutely no good reason to be using TA-22 struts in an RA-23. If the car sits higher, get some new springs.
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sun, 01 September 2002 00:12
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Are you 100% sure they were definitely RA-23 shocks?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sun, 01 September 2002 00:18
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yeah well thats what we bought and couldn't get them to fit then a mechanic put different shocks in, we still have the two new front shocks thats why i wouldn't mind swaping the struts over as i already have new shocks to put in.
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Western Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sun, 01 September 2002 00:43
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They wouldn't be Corona struts would they? Aren't they supposed to be higher than Celica struts?
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sun, 01 September 2002 00:52
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Coronas are the same as '23 celicas, only different caliper brackets.
How do the '23 shocks not fit, are they too long or too wide?
And just because the guy in the shop says they are '23 shocks, doesn't mean they are, people do make mistakes.
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sun, 01 September 2002 01:16
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i have no idea all this happened 5 years ago when my brother had the car and did the suspension. and he can't really remember a thing,
ok when shock is fully compressed its 44cm long
when shock is fully out its 65cm long
shock body has a diamiter of 4.5cm
that is meant to be a RA23 shock for the front which did not fit into the car.
now someone can tell me if that is the size of a ra23 shock
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Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Sun, 01 September 2002 02:52
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You say that it uses 23 brakes. Measure the rotors and make sure. Its sounds to me like it is just the replacement shocks which are wrong. Measure the length of the strut body as well.
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Mon, 02 September 2002 07:52
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ok well the disks are 280mm strut diameter is 51mm when i measure the length of the strut from what point do i measure?
from the very base of it where it bolts on? to the highest point or to where it gets to the spring support? also would i be correct in saying that the strut is the part which the shock slides down into?
also away off the point but on the inside of the disk there is a metal plate that covers the disk, is this easy to remove and could i drive around without it? as i was thinking if i took that off then it would get much better cooling.
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Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Mon, 02 September 2002 08:01
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280mm rotors? no australian celica or corona has ever run front rotors of that size.
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Mon, 02 September 2002 08:19
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diamiter 280mm plus or minus a little as its hard getting an exact measurment. how big are they meant to be?
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Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Mon, 02 September 2002 08:39
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RA23/28/40 254x12.7 soild
73-83 corona have 266x12.7
are you rotors soild or vented?
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Mon, 02 September 2002 09:22
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Can you take a photo of your brakes for us?
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Mon, 02 September 2002 10:00
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is there anything else you guys want me to meassure while i've got the wheels off tomorrow? should have a pic up tomorrow night
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c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Mon, 02 September 2002 11:22
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see if they are solid or vented while your at it.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Mon, 02 September 2002 12:20
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GT Celicas didn't have bigger brakes. If they really are 280mm you'd need at least a 15" rim to clear them. My Supra has 258mm brakes and they only just fit inside the 14's!
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Tue, 03 September 2002 02:27
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i've got 13's on mine 
i'll re check it but i think it was 280 unless i have to learn how to use a tape measure again 
but i'll check.
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Tue, 03 September 2002 09:28
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RA23/28/40 disc is 254mm diam, 12.7mm max width 11.5mm min width
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Newcastle NSW
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June 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Wed, 04 September 2002 09:09
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what type of 13 inch rims are they? if they are stockies then they wont fit over the RA23 brakes. Because i had a wrecked 23 and tried to put a 13 on it to roll it around and it didn't fit.  the caliper fouled on the inside of the rim.
The RA23 strut is 430mm long from retaining plate to the mating plate on the bottom, and 360 from the mating plate to the top of the spring lands. 
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Wed, 04 September 2002 10:57
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but they are now gold of course 
i'll measure the struts tomorrow should be able to get to them simply by having the wheels at full lock.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Wed, 04 September 2002 11:57
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Yeah, I tried putting 13" wheels on my RA23 once and it wasn't going to happen. It sounds like you've got TA22 or TA23 struts dude!
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Thu, 05 September 2002 03:34
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Mate,
that sounds dodgy as! as i told you i think you will find that 13 in wheels are illegal on a 23.... as probly are your washers.... not to mention dangerous... you have to wonder why someone would swap to what you have...
you have my email, talk to me, i have everything you need to fix it back... bar shortened springs....
Cheers
Stew
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Thu, 05 September 2002 03:39
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i don't think it is illegal, i thought you could up or down 2inches in rim size plus no one ever says anything when its registered or cops or tyre place, when we first got it as i said earlier it was 2inches ground clearance and 13's were up in the guards it was that low.
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Newcastle NSW
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June 2002
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Thu, 05 September 2002 09:49
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its illegal to have the washers on the studs. As the rta put it its illegal to use loose spacers on your wheels between the hub and rim. and effectively they are loose spacers.
but i think its ok to go down in rim size but why would you downgrade? 
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Re: RA23-28 or 22 Struts
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Thu, 05 September 2002 10:37
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i don't know why you would downgrade they are just what came with the car, we have had it for like 6 years now and its had those spacers the whole time and never had anyone comment on it so oh well who cares and when is a cop pulling me up and asking me to take a wheel off????????
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