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Registered: May 2002
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1989 C-F spec Celsior SOLD (Some time ago)
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Sun, 16 May 2004 01:32
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Yep. Finally got the Celsior registered this week and so it is now up for sale. (Only thing to be done - will be done this week - is a full detail inside and out as it is still a bit dusty from the shipping).
Car is a 1989 C-spec, F-package Celsior. For those who don't know, this is THE top-of-the-line Celsior made for that year. These were not available in any export market.
Features include everything available on an export market (US/UK/Aus) LS400 (except sunroof - not a popular option in Japan ), with these additional extras:
Air suspension and Traction control (as found on some US-spec cars)
Dual climate control - one for front passengers, one for rear passengers
Has 2-person memory for driver's seat, mirrors and steering
ALL seats are electric - fronts adjust as per normal (with electric head restraint adjustment), rear seats are adjustable fore and aft (reclining), and include heaters and massagers (First Oz-spec Lexus to get these was the 2001-on model LS430...at $170,000 . The centre pull-down armrest in the rear has controls for seat adjustment, stereo controls for the rear passengers (ie. when it is switched on - from the front of the car - the rear passengers can control the stereo, choosing tape/radio/CD/tape functions, station, volume etc. The rear controls also include a separate display so the passenger can see what he/she is adjusting. Also includes a separate tape-player (for use with headphones) for the rear passenger.
Dual height controllers (factory and after-market units)
Auto lights on/off feature (not included in most Lexus LS400s 'till some years later) which will sense low-light conditions and switch the lights on and then switch them off when light improves).
Has integrated fog lights (headlights are one piece, rather than the split lights installed on US and Oz-spec cars.
Has been fitted with 1997-model UCF20 rims (16").
Things I have had done to the vehicle since I imported it are:
Complied and engineered
Full 100,000km service, including new timing/ancillary belts, new plugs, new waterpump, complete flush of trans and refill with TypeIV fluid, new oil and filter. All-up, cost over $1000 including labour
Replaced the tie-rod ends with new LS400 units Cost $500+
Replaced the tyres (marginal tread but otherwise OK) with Goodyear Eagle F1s - in 225/55ZR16 - Cost $750
Replaced the seat belts - This was necessary as the original belts (which I still have) are electrically triggered when braking. ie. They don't lock unless there is an impact or the brakes are applied, therefore car couldn't be registered with them in. I replaced these with grey items (as in grey in colour) from a local Lexus LS400, so they fit as per OEM. Cost in excess of $800 for parts alone (I fitted the belts myself).
Registered the car (ACT rego - 10/5/2004) at a cost of $950-odd.
New 700CCA battery - $170
Condition notes:
Car is in all-round excellent nick. Paint looks good (even un-detailed), but has the usual minor blemishes you would expect on a 15 year-old car. Interior is excellent. Carpets show some grime, but they will come up as new after detailing (ie. no visible wear or rips etc). Drivers seat shows some wear (no rips, just looks a little more "used" than the others), but I will be having it restored to as new condition. Passenger's seat is excellent and the rears look almost new. All electrics work, including climate-control display etc. Car has 152,000kms from new, and most consumables (including everything mentioned above) have been replaced in the last 500 kms.Am missing the CD changer's magazine, but ma casting about for one. (Emailed Kristian from these boards on that subject - still awaiting a reply...). Also, car was supplied without the remote key, so remote central locking is switched off ATM. Best bet is for new owner to get after-market Jayco items and install these...
I am constructing a web-site detailing the car's specifications (compared to "normal" LS400s), and will include some pics - esp. after it gets detailed this week. After that, it gets advertised and sold to best offer (We can't afford to keep it, plus the Cressida, a Corolla and a VFR750... )
Note: Car is a dark metallic green in colour (looks black in certain light conditions - not totally dark ones either! ). Seats are done in beige leather. Engine, of course, is a 1UZ-FE with A341E auto.
Looking for offers around the $AUD17,000 mark. For those wanting to import one of these, please be aware that, after changes to DOTARS' interpretation of the 15-year rule, you will have to wait until month/year of manufacture to apply to import one. For the Celsior, that will mean at least November of this year (plus 6-8 weeks to receive the car), plus the attendant things which will need to be done to the car after it arrives - as a guide, see above...Best case, probably Feb/March of 2005. That is, of course, if DOTARS doesn't scrap the 15-year rule altogether, as seems to be their intention from what I've read recently...
PM or email me at biased99@hotmail.com for further details if interested. Please, genuine enquiries only.
[Updated on: Sun, 10 October 2004 04:58]
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Registered: May 2002
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Fri, 21 May 2004 08:44
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Web-site is now up, URL is:
http://www.itplanet.net.au/Celsior/Celsior.htm
If you know of anyone looking for an LS400 or a similar car in that "market space" please direct them to this thread...
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Registered: May 2002
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Location: Sydney
Registered: September 2003
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Thu, 27 May 2004 15:02
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Mate ... I think it would help if u reduce the size of the pics in your site ..... It took me 5 mins to download the pics even I m using 512k ADSL ......
And thought U didnt mention the milege and where the car is ...
I m really interested in Celsior but I m expecting around $12000 and maybe $3-4K to get a set of 18",low down or even a set of bodykit.... like the rides of Japanese Gangsters
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Location: Canberra
Registered: September 2003
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Fri, 28 May 2004 00:12
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Closer to 15k and ill start waving the cash in front of your face
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Registered: May 2002
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Sun, 27 June 2004 02:12
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Still for sale, and am open to (reasonable) offers.
Car must be sold, as we've committed to another vehicle.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: August 2003
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Sun, 27 June 2004 03:48
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If only this had a sunroof! I'm looking at something like this, and was thinking about importing one later this year. Unfortunately, one of my prerequisites is a sunroof. The imports seem cheaper than this though, but it looks like a fair bit of work has gone into this one. Good Luck with the sale.
Tim
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Registered: May 2002
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Sun, 27 June 2004 05:01
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Timmy Turbo wrote on Sun, 27 June 2004 13:48 | If only this had a sunroof! I'm looking at something like this, and was thinking about importing one later this year. Unfortunately, one of my prerequisites is a sunroof. The imports seem cheaper than this though, but it looks like a fair bit of work has gone into this one. Good Luck with the sale.
Tim
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Most of the imported Celsiors I have seen haven't had a sun-roof. The only ones I have seen with one, have had after-market units fitted. (Apparently they aren't a popular option in Japan).
The car isn't perfect, but is in pretty good nick all-round. Between tyres, consumables, seat-belts and rego, we've spent around $3500 to get it to this point. Would make a great street/cruising car for someone. As I said, I am very much open to offers as I need to sell soon.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Sun, 27 June 2004 07:34
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If you are still after a magazine for the cd changer, I can get you a complete celsior stcker, with magazine for $200.
Cant get magazine seperate yet.
But, this Celsior looks to be awesome, and would definatly buy it if I was in the market for one.
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Registered: May 2002
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Location: Eastern Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Wed, 30 June 2004 11:41
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I'm considering a celsior/LS400 for a daily driver/tow car atm.
one question for you: in what way is this car superior to the local LS400 (to justify the ~$5k premium)?
there are half a dozen locally delivered lexus LS400's in the trading post this week,all '93 models (4yrs younger than yours),with similar km to your car,and all are going for less cash,two almost $10k less than your initial ask of $20k.
I'm not trying to be a smart arse here,I'm genuinely curious as to why the import costs more in this case.
regards,
Justin...
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Wed, 30 June 2004 12:24
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fergo308 wrote on Wed, 30 June 2004 21:41 | I'm considering a celsior/LS400 for a daily driver/tow car atm.
one question for you: in what way is this car superior to the local LS400 (to justify the ~$5k premium)?
there are half a dozen locally delivered lexus LS400's in the trading post this week,all '93 models (4yrs younger than yours),with similar km to your car,and all are going for less cash,two almost $10k less than your initial ask of $20k.
I'm not trying to be a smart arse here,I'm genuinely curious as to why the import costs more in this case.
regards,
Justin...
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A couple of things to bear in mind...
1) The local LS400s are A or B-spec cars. What this means is they lack quite a few of the features of the C and (particularly) the C-F spec cars. (Things like electric rear seats, rear passengers' controls for stereo, A/C etc, TRC and Air-suspension. The LS400 could be looked at as something of a "poverty" pack in comparison.
2) Most of the local cars of similar age have between 200-250,000kms on them. This one has 153,000.
3) I've come back quite a way from the original price - as much a reflection of reality and the fact that the car isn't perfect (it is, after all, 15 years old). So, when looking at an LS400 for around $13-14,000, and considering ours is a few grand dearer (albeit negotiable);Like the web-site says, we've registered it, put new tyres on it, and done a full service (incl. belts, plugs and all fluids). I would hope you would take the above points into account.
It's an OK car, but we already have a "luxury" cruiser in the Cressida, (and we've spent a LOT of money getting the Cress to where it's at - money we'd never recoup). Additionally we are very keen to sell this, and a couple of other vehicles we have, to begin funding our next (and last!) engine conversion project.
So, if you're interested, come and take a look. I'm more than happy to negotiate a price (within reason )
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Fri, 02 July 2004 07:31
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Mon, 05 July 2004 09:58
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==bump==
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Tue, 06 July 2004 20:42
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Thu, 08 July 2004 08:23
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==bump==
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Mon, 12 July 2004 08:47
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Still for sale, and looking for a good home. (Rather than sitting around in our garage).
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Location: sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Registered: May 2002
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Mon, 12 July 2004 12:24
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No worries; let me know how you go. Oh, and good luck with your sale!
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Registered: March 2003
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Re: 1989 C-F spec Celsior for sale
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Wed, 22 September 2004 05:33
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Have you sold this yet? I am interested in Celsiors now.
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