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Wed, 28 August 2002 09:57
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Damn i'm glad NSW cops don't have these...
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Wed, 28 August 2002 10:03
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Yea, I'm damn glad they don't have advertising as well for images hosted by angelfire. 
I love your sig.
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Wed, 28 August 2002 10:06
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Is anglefire a new type of gun? 
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Wed, 28 August 2002 10:08
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Damn... There was four pics but they turned into advertising...
I changed my sig recently... I thought it was great...
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Wed, 28 August 2002 10:09
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what is that in england?
think i might go over there and become a cop 
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Thu, 29 August 2002 01:06
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in victoria the cops have a few WRX's 
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Thu, 29 August 2002 02:52
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They used to have a fair few WRX's here in NSW but they got rid of most of them if not all of them.
My mate in HWY Patrol was telling me that the reason was that they were too slow and needed too many mods to be able to keep up with your average high performance street car like other WRX's, 200SX's etc, etc.
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Thu, 29 August 2002 03:08
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The official line was that they were removed due to their speedos being inaccruate.
I would think that a Police WRX would easily keep up with quite a few of the modded WRXs and 200SXs...
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Thu, 29 August 2002 03:24
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That's funny, I just come back from there and I didn't see any of those..
Looked VERY unlike what a cop in london would have. Most of them have bloody astras and the like.
Although it is the right colours for a cop car in london, it looks like a mock up of some sort..
However I may be wrong.
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Thu, 29 August 2002 03:26
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man the cressida would put that in its pocket!!!!
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Thu, 29 August 2002 03:44
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| Nark wrote on Thu, 29 August 2002 1:08 PM |
The official line was that they were removed due to their speedos being inaccruate.
I would think that a Police WRX would easily keep up with quite a few of the modded WRXs and 200SXs...
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I'm not sure about that Nark, but like i said just telling you what i heard.
The Cop WRX's he told me, only had a unichip put in them and thats all no raised boost or anything if i recall.
Thats why i say they'd have trouble keeping up as your average street modded WRX or 200SX will have at least:
1)Raised boost
2)Full exhaust system
3)Inatake system
4)Unichip
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Thu, 29 August 2002 03:46
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i've seen them on the news and stuff like that in england, so they are there but in what numbers not sure probably very few.
the WRX's were taken out of sydney as there speedo's were wrong and there for had to refund hundreds of speeding tickets and points people lost that got booked by the WRX's
and they wern't intended as a highway patrol car they kept the SS's for that as they have the top end speed but they used the WRX's for the in city stuff as they are responsive and have great handling.
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Thu, 29 August 2002 04:32
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| GEE120 wrote on Thu, 29 August 2002 1:44 PM |
Thats why i say they'd have trouble keeping up as your average street modded WRX or 200SX will have at least:
1)Raised boost
2)Full exhaust system
3)Inatake system
4)Unichip
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Well, the SSs have chips and run no cat, so I'd expect the WRXs to have undergone similar treatment.
Remember though that in the city streets, the WRX cop cars would still be faster than the SS cop cars. Not being able to catch modded WRXs/200SXs isn't really much of an excuse to ditch the WRX and go back to the SSs.
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Thu, 29 August 2002 04:57
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nark's right...
the official word was, the speedo was innacurate (by a few km/hr), which resulted in a few thousand fines having to be refunded.
and subaru said it wasn't worth their time or money to fix the speedo problem for the nsw police force...
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Thu, 29 August 2002 04:58
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and the wrx wouild make a good "Average" cop car... but they would keep the gen3 v8 highway patrols, simply for the extra speed, where handling/acceleration from a stop isn't as important
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Thu, 29 August 2002 06:15
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Sounds fair
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Thu, 29 August 2002 07:32
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I don't know where that official word came from but I heard different! What I heard was they were just too unreliable! According to the service documentation there were always more cars in the workshop than there were on the road! And while the WRX's were in the shop, the cops used backup Fords/Holdens! So they decided they would just go back to using them full time!
This came from the NSW Police service devision!
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Thu, 29 August 2002 08:07
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it was the speedo that was the reason, i heard it on the news, radio and read it in magazines as well as the Drive section of the paper, see what they do is replace the standard speedo dials with ones that instead of being 10,20,30km/h steps it went up in like 2km/h steps so therefor the police had a more acurate reading of what speed the car was doing but the problem was they didn't get the dials set up correct so in the end the speedo said they were going quicker then what they really were and as they went faster and faster the larger the difference was between the given speed and the actual speed of the car, so people were getting booked for doing 140km/h when they were actually doing something more like 115km/h so therefor they recalled all the WRX's and well never bothered fixing them, was nothing to do with the reliability of the car more on how reliable the speedo was.
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Thu, 29 August 2002 08:27
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I hope you dont belive everything you read in the papers and eberything you hear on the radios!
Everything you said sounds good untill you actually think about it! The reading on the speedo dial has no effect at all on the reading that the radar will give! None at all!
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Thu, 29 August 2002 08:47
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oh what a shame out of the 12 or so police WRX's i saw didn't have radars!!!! they booked people by simply chasing after them and logging down speeds they hit nothing to do with radar, they wern't set up as a highway patrol car they were set up as a persuit car to catch stolen cars and people speeding around through the streets and in the city. they have always kept the commies as the highway patrol car.
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Thu, 29 August 2002 08:53
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I think I kinda agrrewith Cool1. I heard the same thing, and that was from a friend who used to drive them. They were always ending up getting fixed for some reason or another.
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Thu, 29 August 2002 08:55
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That still does'nt really make sense as they can only book you in 10kmh increments using that method anyway!
But as I said that information I got is from the NSW Police service devision! And nobody is going to know the situation better then them!
And I dont know why you would think otherwise that he the wrx is a unreliable car! The wrx is a cheap peice of crap!
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Thu, 29 August 2002 09:17
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Mate its not my fault you hav'nt finished school yeat and you cant read correctly!
I have admitted before that I have been wrong and I will be wrong again!
And this speedo thing, could it have something to do with the police issuing ticket incorrectly? Like I said they can only issue tickets using 10kmh increments!
And as for the group N rally cars, well could this have something to do with them being rebuilt after just about every race?
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Thu, 29 August 2002 09:56
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And as for the group N rally cars, well could this have something to do with them being rebuilt after just about every race?
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I think that's more to do with Suburu having a mega budget to meet rather than reliability... Not many Privateers touch their cars other than maintence reasons.
One point though, the police WRXs in NSW were AUTOS. I know this because I was locked up in one and taking to Bankstown station! Hence, being auto, means the Average Constable are a crap driver. No matter what car they drove (SS, WRX,...) they still wouldn't keep up with a Street worked Turbo 4 or 6, V8, or any Manuals with go, through anything other than a fairly straight bit of road.... Only because they have AUTOS!
Sorry I have to say that, as my ex-GF is now a copper and she is in absoulte belief she is the worlds greatest driver and could kick my ass in anything I race, even if I do hold a Grade 4 circuit and rally Lic, but, she still has know Idea on how a clutch and gear stick work in harmony, to move a car!!
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Thu, 29 August 2002 10:19
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| Cool1 wrote on Thu, 29 August 2002 7:17 PM |
Mate its not my fault you hav'nt finished school yeat and you cant read correctly!
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yup there's the lame comment i was looking for,
doesn't matter what increcments they do it in they still want to have the most accurate speedo's in the car with smaller increcements so there for they can acuratly work out the speed of an affending car no matter what if they round it down to lots of 10 or what,
fact is the whole matter happened because there speedo's wern't correct and could no longer use the cars until they got the speedo's fixed which they never ended up doing, so the main reason they were taken off the road was the speedo thing and thats that.
Also i seem to remember the mob who calibrates the cop car speedo's were unable to get the WRX's right in the first place as the way they calibrated the speed didn't work on the WRX's due to them being full time 4wd compared to the commadore's and falcons being rear wheel drive so thats the main reason they got buggered up in the first place.
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Thu, 29 August 2002 12:16
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Yeah ok mate 
Your obviously not reading what i'm Wrighting! So I'll just let you belive that what your brain can handle 
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Thu, 29 August 2002 13:23
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Highway Patrol Police are bottom dwellers with or without WRXs.
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Fri, 30 August 2002 02:03
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c'mon kids, keep it nice
and I can't say a bad word about highway police. was doing 140km/hr on the way back from melb, and from out of nowhere suddenly there's a highway patrol car FILLING my rearview mirror.
Naturally I slowed down to 110, and I thought to myself "oh shit, bye bye lisence", but then when I slowed down he just let me go
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Fri, 30 August 2002 04:02
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jUST cOP wrx'S OR ALL wrx'S HAEV THIS SPEEDO PROBLEM ??
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Fri, 30 August 2002 05:43
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just cop one's as they replace the speedo display with what they thought to be more acurate ones 
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Fri, 30 August 2002 15:26
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Damn... Now all of the bloody pictures have turned into Angelfire ads... Ain't that a bitch... Oh well... I don't think that anyone is worried about the car anymore, it has turned into an arguement about one over-rated car...
Is it true that copper cars do not have catalytic converters??? I thought that this was illegal... No wait a minute, it wouldn't matter as the cops have no worries... I HATE the fact that cops can do and drive illegal cars...
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Sat, 31 August 2002 00:37
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Hi
I find it pretty hard to believe that Police Cars are allowed to run no CAT. They are put on post86 cars for a very good reason, not just to kill a few kw's.
I am sure a few Environmental groups would have something to say. 
Also I saw about a month ago on the news around 20plus Police Vehicles including Falcon's, Commodores and WRX. Were being looked into for incorrect Speedo readings. It sounds like the problem is with the fitting and calibration of the Police Speedo's.
-Regards Mike
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Sat, 31 August 2002 20:14
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GIN51E, you are on the money...
it was all over the news quite a while back.
all police vehicles in NSW which are used for the purpose of highway patrol/pursuit are fitted with a calibrated spedometer, the face of which is marked in 2km/h increments. this has been done for 20 years or more. have a look at an interceptor...
the WRX spedometer refit was dodgy, and the NSW police got busted for it.
also, bar a very few operating in more remote regional areas, all highway patrol/pursuit vehicles use autos, as Johnny pointed out. doubt this would help with performance. but how else do they eat, wank, talk on the radio and drive at the same time?
these police were once a service to the community... now they are a service to the treasury.
...and Cool1, take a chill pill... nothing wrong with a good edjamucashun! you shouldn't have been in such a hurry to get out of school yourself...
might've helped your "wrighting"... 
just joking, champ... don't drive angry! 
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Sun, 01 September 2002 00:43
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Mate, i'm just sick of people seeing something on the news or reading something in the newspaper and taking it seriously!
I mean their job is to find any little piece of information and blow it out of proportion to make people interested!
If you hav'nt already figured it out, I do contract work for the police installing radios so I get to work with the service departments a far bit! Doing this job I get to hear about all the faults and problems with the equipment they use! But anyway, this thread just shows me how many weak minded people there are that only belive the first thing they hear!
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Sun, 01 September 2002 01:04
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pull your finger out of your arse, just because its on the news doesn't mean its not true. and the whole WRX thing wasn't just on the news but all over car magazines and newspapers and everywhere.
and ok you have some involvment with police *hip hip horray* but this was a Sydney issue and therefore i think it is more likely for us to know what the story was compared to you up in QLD as it was in every paper down here it was all over the tv all the time and there was special articles and shows showing exactly what the problem was and going into detail about it.
and now i'll write a special little message for your
"yes cool1 you are 100% correct and it wasn't the speedo that was the problem but it was the cars simply being unreliable and thats why they took them off the road, you were correct and in future i'll make sure i always believe everything you say as of course you are the man and you know it all, you know more then anyone else and your just never wrong"
Now you can go pull your d!ck out and have a pull with a nice big on your face thinking about how your the greatest,and how you know absolutly everything all due to the fact you install police radio's, how dare we ever doubt you 
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Sun, 01 September 2002 01:15
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Should'nt you be in sunday school or something? 
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Sun, 01 September 2002 01:22
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hahahahahahahahahaha F**K your funny, apart from starting your own newspaper you should do some stand up comedy as well.
just make sure you keep your d!ck hanging out of your pants otherwise without that there's nothing for anyone to laugh at.
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Sun, 01 September 2002 02:52
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I can't believe you guys get abusive and "go back to (sunday) school" over such petty little things.
look for the logical solution. Both mechanical and speedo factors were a problem. The police force/subaru didn't want bad publicity on reliability, so they leaked the speedo info to the news and papers, which they would want more anyway, because of the stink they could cause over it and refunded fines.
just try and be nice hey?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 02:58
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Where was I being abusive or offensive? I dont have to try and insualt people like school kids just to get my point accross!
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Sun, 01 September 2002 10:53
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Back to the original point of the thread..
Why would you bother disguising the number plate on a pic of a police car ? (it would help us identify what country it was too)
And who chose the colours to put down the sides ? urrrgggh
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Tue, 03 September 2002 08:36
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ok here is an email back from the cops, make of it how you wish, but the question is weather they would honestly tell you the truth????
--- Received from NSWP.#CUSTOME/17694 31111 03/09/02 12:40
Mr Martin Gins,
Thank-you for your email. I have made enquiries with the
Commander, Traffic Technology Section, Traffic Services. He has
advised that the "NSW Police trialed a number of vehicles recently
including Subaru units. At this stage NSW Police does not intend
to purchase vehicles other than the Aust built Holden/Ford and
this is not to say we are not looking at other vehicle in the
future, media reports would have the public believe that the WRX
vehicles were not continued due to speedometer malfunctions, this
is not the case".
I hope this information is helpful to you.
Regards
Nathan Campbell
NSW POLICE SERVICE
but it doesn't say thats why they wern't continued but i'm sure it played a factor in it.
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Tue, 03 September 2002 08:56
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Could this mean that there is a tiny chance that what I was saying was not bullshit?
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Tue, 03 September 2002 09:13
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i still go by what i was saying, of course the cops arn't going to say that was the reason they took them off,
the speedo's were stuffed, once they realised that and refunded everyones fines and so forth they were taken off the road straight away as they couldn't use them as the speedo's didn't work and obviously they never fixed them to put them back on the road
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