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RA22 , RA23 or RA28
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Wed, 19 May 2004 04:18
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I'm new to this forum and also new to toyota
I'm deciding on getting a celica but dont really know much about the car ...
I just like the look of these old skool celicas and heard about being a bullet proof car.
I've read some articles and threads about these 3 models
and just want to know which is better for looks and street use.
and roughly how much for a good standard or lightly modified ones
advice will be great guys.
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The Rainy City
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May 2002
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Re: RA22 , RA23 or RA28
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Wed, 19 May 2004 04:23
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I believe you mean the TA22..
If you can find them, I reckon the RA28s are the sweetest shell. They have the 2.0l standard, so that opens your options up when you consider engine swaps. Similar goes for the RA23, though that is the coupe shape, which is up to your own tastes.
The TA22 is MUCH easier to find parts for, but they are limited in their engine size when you consider conversions. Also the engine bay is shorter in the TA22.
The strength of the driveline is in favour of the R series shells which is reasonable when you consider they had a larger engine from factory.
The two coupe shapes (TA22 and RA23) are basically the same from the firewall back (excluding the interior and transmission). If you ever have the misfortune of hunting for a decent RA23/8 front bumper then you will know exactly what I mean when i say TA22 parts are relatively easier to find.
Hope this helps
cheers..
tom.
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Re: RA22 , RA23 or RA28
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Wed, 19 May 2004 04:28
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thanks for the quick reply
I personally like the RA28
the mustang look!
but then again its very rare?
and expensive
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Re: RA22 , RA23 or RA28
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Wed, 19 May 2004 04:47
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These days you'll find certain parts are hard or damn near impossible to get for all 3 models. Mechanical parts are still generally easy to find though, but more so for the RA23/28 which shares a lot of components with other common Toyotas (eg RT104 Corona).
They are a great car and damn near bulletproof, but unfortunately it's getting really hard to find a good one. They were very popular targets of the "hoon brigade" about 10-15 years ago which led to the demise of many good Celicas being crashed or rolled or burned to the ground, and most of the rest have succumbed to dodgy smash repairs, crappy engine conversions, and of course the dreaded rust monster.
Having said that, you might get lucky and stumble across a good one that hasn't been butchered or rusted away. Good luck!
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: RA22 , RA23 or RA28
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Wed, 19 May 2004 06:26
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There are some good example of stock RA28's out there that the older generation own, but don't relise the classic value of what they own. I've found several very good stock example in the last few years that were picked up for a bargin with a token gesture rego left on them. But generally on average finding a rust free body is getting harder by the year. If you inclined to fully rebuild and remove all the rust (and do a good job of it) alot of the value of the car lies there.
A standard RA28 in average+ condition will currently fetch in the realm of $1500-$3000,
A standard RA28 with twin cam engine conversion will fetch about $500-$1000 more based on the original condition of the car.
Ra28's with 1G inline 6 turbo conversions (engineered) will start from the $6000 mark and go up to $10,000.
and at the showy end of the scale they can go for up to $15,000+
If you own them and or are building one you'll find out what parts are getting harder to get and scour wreckers for these parts in good nick and stockpile them for future use. (or at least I do!)
And sometime you just get a bargin you just can't pass up 
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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Re: RA22 , RA23 or RA28
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Wed, 26 May 2004 03:13
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| Razor wrote on Wed, 26 May 2004 12:21 |
I still can't decied which one to buy cos I'm not that familiar to all these models
anyone knows a site that list the specs of the following models:
TA22
TA23
RA23
I'm not interested on the RA28 anymore.
what would you guys choose out of above 3 models
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*thats a can of worms and a half*
on a personal level: I like the ra23 with an 18rg in it (until you do an engine swap) but 18rg parts are fairly hard to come by (in SA at least) and if you need to do a rebuild its going to cost you quite a lot.
That's my two cents.
Anywhoo - any old school celica (as long as its a good one) is gonna be enjoyable if you love em.
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Perth, Western Australia
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Re: RA22 , RA23 or RA28
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Wed, 26 May 2004 13:48
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I like the RA23's and 28's, prefer the flat front compared to the swept back look of the 22's.. also I think the bonnet bulge makes them look quite mean.
As far as finding one that has little rust, you're going to have some fun there. I picked mine up for $800 with some rust in one sill, and a few little bits here and there. It has been sanded back and all spots replaced with new metal. Mongrel of a job but well worth it when compared to looking at your car in six months time when the body filler you used on the hole has fallen through. 
The only damage on my car was a bent passenger guard and rusty bent door, but those were thrown away and newer ones are getting ready to be put in their place. I also managed to get the previous owner to give me a manual box and tailshaft, and two extra 18RC's, even though I have bought an 18RG to put in her.
Make sure when you are looking for your Celica, that you really examine the ones with new paint etc... A lot of the time it hasn't been repaired properly, and rust will start to come through again soon. A lot of the time, one that looks crappy will end up being the easier one to fix!
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