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munki
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miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Thu, 20 May 2004 10:57 Go to next message
Hi

I Have recently put in an 18rg into my celica and only now i am running into problems with my electric distributor.

when under load the car will miss and the tacho will go crazy (fly up to 8000 and then back to normal) i suspect that this may be the coil as it sometimes happens when i go over big bumps under load. it is a standard toyota coil.

any other ideas? i havent really looked at anything yet as i dont have the time.

thanks in advance

Daniel
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Thu, 20 May 2004 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hmmmmm, welcome to my world, this is the problem i have, but it just flickers, not huge jumps.

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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Thu, 20 May 2004 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
have you tried a new coil phil?

also i have a blown headgasket reason why im getting the petrol fumes out my breathers. it was also going into the water (but no oil? amd blew a waterpump seal wheee!

never go to a tune shop which thinks 8 deg advanced is fine!

maybe thats my problem.
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Thu, 20 May 2004 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hmmmm, no i havent, might try that.

i can get cheap VRS kits, i'm getting one soon so we might be able to get two cheaper
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Fri, 21 May 2004 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Coil is VERY likely.
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Fri, 21 May 2004 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Your problem may be because you are using apoints coil with an electronic ignition? this is a no no use one that is made for an electonic ignition such as early magna
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Fri, 21 May 2004 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Are you running an igniter??
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Fri, 21 May 2004 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roger wrote on Fri, 21 May 2004 16:40

Your problem may be because you are using apoints coil with an electronic ignition? this is a no no use one that is made for an electonic ignition such as early magna


This is VERY correct. If you are going for an aftermarket (Bosch perhaps) coil - the ones for electronic are distinguishable by being black (rather than red).
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Fri, 21 May 2004 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi

thanks for the replys guys more problems have devoloped too! the car is rough it seems until the main jets come on? then its normal unless it decides to go spastic and miss. the car also has a tenanicy to backfire out the carbs. perhaps a loose venturi?

as far as i know the coil is one without a resister it was the one strapped to the igniter assembly so i presumed it would be correct (but one thing i have learnt is to NEVER asume ANYTHING!) I will test the coil and check the plugs to see if one or more is fouling and a compresion test.

how would i test the coil to see if it has a resister?

thanks in advance daniel.

PS i may take u up on that phil and change the valve seals while im doing the headgasket and check the shims wheee!
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Fri, 21 May 2004 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lack of fuel perhaps - erratic igniton timing can also play havoc - fix the coil/distributor first - then assess the backfire afterwards.
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Fri, 21 May 2004 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
munki wrote on Fri, 21 May 2004 18:17

Hi

thanks for the replys guys more problems have devoloped too! the car is rough it seems until the main jets come on? then its normal unless it decides to go spastic and miss. the car also has a tenanicy to backfire out the carbs. perhaps a loose venturi?




this is the EXACT same problem i am having
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Fri, 21 May 2004 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
are u runnin twin delortos

they are not the best carbies

they r hard to get parts for

whatever carbies u have pul them apart and clean and put a kit thru them

then make sure all the butterflies are closed

i know with webers sometimes the butterfly shaft bends slightly so one butterfly is a tiny bit open compared to toher one shut

if a cyl backfires thru the carby its usually a mixture prob in that cyl

bent butterflies

mis adjusted idle screws

wrong idle or main jets could be the prob

best to get carbies fixed and tuned professionally if u can

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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Sat, 22 May 2004 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i ma running twin solex, and a stock coil and points dizzy, i'm gonna try a different coil tomorrow, if that doesnt fix it i will get a elec dizzy or maybe a Crane Cams XR3000 conversion kit
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Re: miss firing 18rgeu dizzy in 18rgu... Sun, 23 May 2004 06:17 Go to previous message
The car has been running for arround 3000km fine until now. Therefore i suspect an idle jet to be clogged or there is an inlet manifold leak or loss of compression in a cylinder which may upset the carbs.

I will test the coil, compresson and igniter tomorrow but does anyone know any good ways to check idle jets in these carbs? i cant exactly stick my head between the strut tower to look inside.

Daniel
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