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 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Fri, 30 August 2002 11:42
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is it possible to squeeze a 1GGTE into a KE70 corolla, how much would need to be modified to fit?.i have a friend that would love this conversion so i would like to hear from anyone who has performed this conversion. or could point me in the way of anyone who has.
Also what diff is a good upgrade to this sort or power preferably with an LSD 
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sat, 31 August 2002 00:46
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I was under the impression that the KE70 engine bay is about the same size as the TA22 Celica... and if that's the case, it would be quite hard to get a 1G in there (ie firewall mods).
I'd recommend a Hilux rear end to reliably handle that sort of power.
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Sat, 31 August 2002 07:54
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then whats the difference between between the TA22 and RA23-28 engine bays i know the RA23 is supposed to be longer but by how much? and ive heard that the 1G is an easy fit into a RA23-28. i have a TA22 and i too would like this conversion rather than going to a Nissan power plant 
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Sat, 31 August 2002 09:15
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The RA23 wheelbase is 3-4 inches longer than the TA22, and the body is longer again. I don't know the exact difference in engine bay dimensions, but if you compare both side by side it's obvious the RA23 has heaps more room.
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Western Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 00:34
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I heard about a 1G KE70 the other day. Apparently it fitted in, but there was a bit of work in getting the radiator and what not to fit.
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 01:03
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Fitting a 1G in a TA22 makes the car just about undrivable! It puts way too much weight over front wheels! The moreboost celica has a 1G fitted but it only goes in straight lines. And why would you have to fit a nissan engine? There are other toyota engines avaiable to choose from! Have you looked into the 3S-GTE?
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 01:22
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What the bloody hell are you smoking? Since WHEN is the 1g heavier than the original front end in a ta22? I know for a fact that the 1g with it's turbos on and all is lighter than the 18rc which is standard in the front of a ra23, I can't imagine how the motor in the front of a ta22 would be that much lighter than the 18rc to make it lighter than the 1g..
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 01:39
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Mate, I did'nt say that it was heavier! I said it puts to much weight over the front wheel! Or should I say it puts to much in front of the front wheels?
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 02:01
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Its got more to do with the size. The 1G is fairly light and small for a six...but the fact is, its quite long having all those cylinders in a row...which is about the biggest problem.
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Sun, 01 September 2002 02:29
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TA22's come with a 2T, which is significantly lighter than the 18R-C. TA22's also have a pretty short wheelbase, so whacking a longer engine in that tiny engine bay isn't going to do the chassis balance much good.
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 02:31
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Thats exactly what I was getting at!
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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Sun, 01 September 2002 07:17
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I know you guys probably are more aware of how the TA22 fits the 1g, or doesn't fit the 1g, but I have seen morboost (up close and personal  )and it didn't require any firewall modifications. Nor did it require much in the way of cross member modifications.. So, to cut a long story short, I dont' think it's that hard to put a 1g into a ta22 as you are making it out to be..
my 2c
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 07:41
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It actually needed a lot of work to be done to the radiator support!
If you want all the information regarding this ring Racecraft in Melbourne on 0393380550 and ask for Alex or Daniel! They will tell you that it useless for driving on the street!
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Sun, 01 September 2002 08:16
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Mate, Extensive modification only involved moving the radiator from inside the engine bay to the outside of it..
And (And this will be my last reply, I'll stop annoying you) If you call alex and ask about a 'Daniel Martin' with the ra23 and the 1g gte, I'm sure he'll just moan at the thought.. He more than knows who I am.. I don't really need to call him to just say 'hi'.
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Newcastle NSW
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June 2002
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 09:17
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i see how the 1G would be putting too much weight in front of the front wheels so my original point with a Nissan engine is that the 3SGTE is originally a transverse engine (east-west) and the cost of installing one would blow the budget on my car by a huge wad of cash, and Nissan are the next logical choice for an "easy" conversion being that if u get a half cut everything is there.
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ACT
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May 2002
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 09:52
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I do agree with the fact that the 1g would put more weight over the front wheels, but it wouldn't make it shitty to drive.
The 1g in my sprinter is a pleasure to drive, its bloody revvy and the power to weight is great. The car has been run on an intense engineer's circuit which tests the handling/braking. The engineer was surprised at the lack of understeer.
Having said that the conversion was a pain in the ass and it cost me a lot of money! 
It required heavy modification of radator support panel.
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: 1GGTE + KE70 rolla and Diff to suit?
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Sun, 01 September 2002 10:24
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go the 1g! yeah!
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