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5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sat, 29 May 2004 10:20
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just getting started with my sprinter and i want to do a 5 stud conversion . but need help to get started like maybe parts that will bolt on or a place that will do a setup for me but dont have much to spend at this time. just want a better wheel selection....
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sat, 29 May 2004 16:45
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From my knowledge no one has done this.
You have two choices.
1. Buy 4 bolt to 5 bolt adapters and then find wheels with a more positive offset than stock. Which is the easiest thing to do. Lots of 5 bolt wheels out there with large positive offsets.
2. Find front 5 bolt hubs from another car that share the same front bearings as yours and see if they fit on your spindles without being too long or short. Then find a rear solid diff that will bolt up or can be modded to bolt up to your car that has 5 bolt hubs and is not too long or short.
Get what I'm getting at?
There should be lots of cheap 4 bolt wheels that should fit your car. The bolt pattern is 4X114.3 right? Look for used wheels someone is selling from thier MA61 in 14" to 16" diameters that are no wider than 7". I see lots of those cars with the stock MA61 wheels and they seem to fit fine.
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 01:27
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The first question I would ask is WHY? It's a hell of a lot of effort to go to, and I can't really see the point on an AE86. Having said that, it's far from impossible if you don't mind mix'n'matching from the Toyota parts bin.
Shortened MX83 Cressida struts would be a good start for the front end, but you'd probably have to do something funky with the lower control arms to get the camber right. You'll also need to convert to coilovers as the Cressida springs probably won't fit inside the strut towers. This will give you 5-stud hubs with the bonus of fairly large brakes, and easy brake upgrade options if you want to get carried away.
As for the rear, a Hilux axle swap would be the way to go; you get an indestructible G series diff (LSD's are easy to come by), huge drum brakes, and all 2WD versions are 5-stud.
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 02:04
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| rsdeo wrote on Sun, 30 May 2004 02:45 |
From my knowledge no one has done this.
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SprinterTRD's V-8 powered Sprinter has 5-studs on all four corners. 
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 02:07
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| Bill Sherwood wrote on Sun, 30 May 2004 12:04 |
| rsdeo wrote on Sun, 30 May 2004 02:45 |
From my knowledge no one has done this.
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SprinterTRD's V-8 powered Sprinter has 5-studs on all four corners.
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As does my TA22.
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 02:47
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...as does my AE86
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 03:24
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mr fool if u dont have much money to spend then i really wouldnt bother, spend the cash where it will reward better, like suspension.
besides, there are HEAPS of great wheels to suit 86, imo they are better than other mags!
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 07:53
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...as does my KE30
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 07:54
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My coon does too 
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 18:09
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Nice, someone has done it. What method was used for the conversion?
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 21:14
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Hilux diff down the back and MS65 Hubs at the front.
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 21:54
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| Cool1 wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 07:14 |
Hilux diff down the back and MS65 Hubs at the front.
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So the MS65 hubs fit on an AE86 as well ? Well bugger me 
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 22:39
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 07:54 |
| Cool1 wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 07:14 |
Hilux diff down the back and MS65 Hubs at the front.
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So the MS65 hubs fit on an AE86 as well ? Well bugger me
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Maybe. They fit the RA40 and 131 struts, and I think the stub axle is the same size on the sprinters.
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Sun, 30 May 2004 23:02
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Incorrect; the AE86 has the same size stub axle as the TA22, which is smaller than the RA40, XT130, MS65 etc. If you wanted to use MS65 hubs you'd have to upgrade the struts first.
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Mon, 31 May 2004 00:56
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these spacers are not hub centric, and very illegal in aus
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Mon, 31 May 2004 02:41
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| Norbie wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 09:02 |
Incorrect; the AE86 has the same size stub axle as the TA22, which is smaller than the RA40, XT130, MS65 etc. If you wanted to use MS65 hubs you'd have to upgrade the struts first.
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I believe that some sprinters have a larger stub axle, these sprinters also have a different spacing between the bolt holes on the bottom of the strut.
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Mon, 31 May 2004 08:43
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i do have just not at the moment just gotta wait 4 tax to come back and to get my new job up and going diff isn't to much trouble just wanted more help with the front end . and thought if people had done something like this b4 it might get me started ... like if i need different struts , hubs ,brakes all help is appreciated. and will share my results because sprinter is a way of life to some people.
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Thu, 24 June 2004 08:09
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Dude: I WISH I had 4-bolt hubs!!!!!!!!!!!!
The celica's 5x100 pattern is heller-gay, 'coz hardly anyone makes decent wheels in that pattern. 4x100 and 4x114.3 are common as hell, with plenty of aftermarket support. most 4-bolt rims have a static load rating of 620-690kg, heaps for tha sprinta.
What was the reasoning behind wanting to go 5-bolt, anyway?
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Thu, 24 June 2004 08:37
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Also, another good diff to use is crown diffs. IMHO better than a hilux for certain applications.
1. solid
2. large disc brakes.
3. 5x114.3
4. shares lsd with early celica/supras (m2/m3??)
7. 7.5 F series, plenty of ratios..
8. wider but can use FWD mags to slightly "offset" the problem
my 2 cents...
Logan
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Tue, 06 July 2004 14:59
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getting shortened vl diff going to use xt130 or ra40 struts shortened. getting blank hubs and discs studded to the commy pattern...just a bit more planning
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Wed, 07 July 2004 00:28
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MMmmmmmmm....... I know you don't have to justify youself to some dude tapping away at a keyboard, whom you've never met, but....
WHY ? ? ?
I imagine there'd be a heap of new and 2nd hand aftermarket bits in Japan. Brakes, diffs, suspn etc.etc. - Bolt-on stuff. How come you're so keen on 5-bolt hubs again?
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Wed, 07 July 2004 05:52
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| mrf_ool wrote on Wed, 07 July 2004 02:59 |
getting shortened vl diff going to use xt130 or ra40 struts shortened. getting blank hubs and discs studded to the commy pattern...just a bit more planning
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Why go Commodore?
Just use a Falcon diff, basically the same but shares same stud pattern as Toyota. Would then match MS65 hubs.
Callum
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Wed, 07 July 2004 06:01
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or hilux
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Wed, 07 July 2004 11:33
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Do the Hilux diff for sure... but if you insist on using a Bogwarmer diff, it's probably easiest to start with an R31 Skyline one - same diff centre as the commdore and falcon.
Should you insist on a commodore diff, you can fit commodore hubs (earlier type) straight onto ra40/ra60/etc. struts. 
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Wed, 07 July 2004 11:39
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the things u learn hey 
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Thu, 08 July 2004 06:20
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what do u mean by early vb-vh or what...
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Re: 5 stud conversion for AE86 need help
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Thu, 08 July 2004 06:30
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just so everybody knows why . I'm using commodore because i want VY SS wheels i want them. and i can got a vl diff for nothing and gonna cost me about 500 to 600 to get it shortened and brackets ready to fit.. my little brother is goning to his to when he gets his licence ( about time he is 20). and everyone does criticise things people do everybody is a great help which is very helpful and lets people get more for there money .which most of us dont have..
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