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LiL_MiC
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4agte needs Sun, 01 September 2002 12:48 Go to next message
Just say, Hypothetically of course..i wanted a 4agte and wanted to buy each piece seperately... Wink

Could someone list EVERY SINGLE PART that is needed to be put in a sprinter in order of how rare the part is with prices?

Here's a bit of a list i made so far

Engine: AE92 Japan 90-91 4AGZE
No Powersteering
No Gearbox?
No Engine mounts
No Supercharger

Turbo: Hi flowed t28 from rb20det

ECU: Microtech MTX-8

Radiator: Toyota Hiace radiator?

Intercooler: VR4? SW21? custom made?

Fuel pump: Fuel pump from VL Turbo or FC3S

Flywheel: 100kw 4age fwd flywheel? [ae92 gti?]

Exhaust: 3" all way thru steam piping exhaust res in middle
3" cat
free flow mullfer
Other
Coil Assembly

Sorry, I am very much a newbie to technicals. I'm hoping this will still have air con Smile and the intercooler would be front mounted

Hopefully I didn't miss out on anything

PS. Any suggestions why i have a flat spot from 1k to 4k on my 4ac? U can definitely feel torque kick in at 4k

[Updated on: Sun, 01 September 2002 12:50]

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Re: 4agte needs Sun, 01 September 2002 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, you're onto a good start there, theres hundreds of little bits that you need as well though Cool

If you're keen to do it, I might be able to help you out a bit
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Re: 4agte needs Sun, 01 September 2002 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i had a similar flat spot on my 4ac in my rolla 2.5k-3.5k then u feel it get up
i chucked in a full tank of premium down my mechanic advanced the timing till it started pinging at full load then backed it off a little bit problem solved and it runs like a dream...well cept for the carby problem doh!
only prob is if u go cheap and put regular unleaded in it starts to ping when u give it sum
i'd recomend trying it see if it fies the problem and if it turns out to be too expensive for premo just retard te timing back to stock Smile
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Re: 4agte needs Sun, 01 September 2002 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
o your help would be much appreciated mr shin [did i ever got your name?]

I do have help, but i'm actually sorta lookin for someone who's done it b4!

But it's all research still .. I still dont know that much .. It'd be really great if u could help tho..[have the time people like me who dont know that much get ignored]

I'll let ya know what happens tho

and thanks hunty..i'll try that

come on guys..anyone got good estimates of prices and which parts are more rare to find and got a better list of what i'll need??

[Updated on: Sun, 01 September 2002 16:11]

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Re: 4agte needs Sun, 01 September 2002 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
a 3" steam pipe zorst would be too heavy. u want a 3" mandrel bent mild steel or stainless steel exhaust to suit.

you'd prolly want small dia steam pipe to make up the manifold to hold the turbo.

RWD inlet for top radiator hose?
plate that goes at the back of the head for a RWD config
RWD inlet manifold?
365cc 4AGZE injectors and fuel pressure reg ect.

just a few suggestions......also think about your gearbox is a T50 going to take the punishment?
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Re: 4agte needs Mon, 02 September 2002 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The RB20 turbo is an T3-size as well, not T28. Probably a nice size anyway.
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Re: 4agte needs Mon, 02 September 2002 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well I'd be happy to share some knowledge/experiences with you, thing is it's hard to think of stuff to type off the top of my head! Feel free to meet up sometime, and we can have a look at the cars and discuss ideas, I find that a lot more helpful myself...

And the names michael
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LiL_MiC
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Re: 4agte needs Mon, 02 September 2002 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeh that's cool michael..that's pretty funny actually..i'm sure it's not hard to guess/remember my name Smile

rb20 turbo is t3 size? so it's like a t3? and not a t28? [sorry, turbo's aren't my area]
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icon4.gif  Re: 4agte needs Wed, 04 September 2002 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don't forget to get an oilcooler as the 4age runs hot! Cool
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Re: 4agte needs Wed, 04 September 2002 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmmm, mine doesn't seem to run too hot, even with a single row rad (dunno exactly what its out of! I think its AL25, with twin fans). I also like the see the oil a (bit!) hotter than the coolant, although not excessively so.
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Re: 4agte needs Wed, 04 September 2002 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
speaking of oil coolers, where can you get a adapter/sandwich plate for a 4AGE/ZE with a feed for an oil cooler? where would it feed back into the motor after the cooler?
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Re: 4agte needs Wed, 04 September 2002 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the ae82 4ag has a factory oilcooler and it uses a sandwich plate to feed the oil to the cooler then the oil returns to the sump. so try your local wreaker 4 the parts needed Very Happy
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Re: 4agte needs Wed, 04 September 2002 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Freak find someone that has put a ze in their aw-11 mr2. the factory ge comes with the oil cooler feeder, if they didnt use it for the ze, you could probably pick one up reasonably cheap.
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Re: 4agte needs Wed, 04 September 2002 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anyone know anyone who can get me any of these parts cheap [Legally]?

4agze long motor
T28 Turbo off rb20det
Jap VR4 Intercooler
Haltech ECU
VL Turbo Fuel pump
Toyota Hiace Radiator
100kw 4age Flywheel
Exhaust 3" all way thru + 3" cat
R31 or Hilux Diff
Surge Tanks
Blow off valves
Wastegates
Boost Controllers
Custom piping for FMIC
Supra Gearbox with dellow housing

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Re: 4agte needs Thu, 05 September 2002 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I might be able to help you with an engine, and SOME of the other stuff too - lemme know when you've got the $ collected
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Re: 4agte needs Mon, 09 September 2002 09:47 Go to previous message
The RB20 & 25 series of turbo actually have no official sizes, although the RB20 one is approximately the same as the T28, only slightly larger. The common mis-conception i can see is the fact that they use the T03 style flange which can confuse some people.

I picked my turbo up my today, for the meagre sum of $200. Its the Ball Bearing Garret from an R32 Skyline, 'tis also in perfect condition, was never boosted, no shaft movement and very few km's.

The head and turbo flange plates I made for free. Just went to the local scrap yard and found two 10mm mild steel offcuts which were the perfect size, by fluke. Then with some hard work and a few blisters they've come up perfect.


Tracking down a turbocharger:

I'd been trying to track down the turbo for a while, they seem to go pretty quickly. Then i came up with a winner. Many R32 skyline owners upgrade to the RB25 turbocharger. So I jumped on the SkylinesDownunder forums and asked for one. Within one day I had 4 being offered to be for less than $300.
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