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 Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 09:44
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Hey,
I am 16 and have just purchased a 1975 TA22 celica 1.6L Manual. I was wondering if any could tell me what was me best bet.
1/ Do I do up the engine i Have now
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2/Do I replace the engine with a later model and work on that and if so which engine and where do you get them from and how pricey is it with engineer cert. and labour
thanks alot,
Robbie 
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 09:55
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Being 16 your only going to be able to keep the 1.6L engine. So get a 2TG and bolt it in then add some cams.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:02
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Agreed with shane - Track down a 2tg - and play with that .. youll have fun 
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:14
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| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 19:55 |
Being 16 your only going to be able to keep the 1.6L engine
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why is that?
if he has the money, why not something a little more spirited than a 2tg
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:16
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| STR8 2.8 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:14 |
| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 19:55 |
Being 16 your only going to be able to keep the 1.6L engine
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why is that?
if he has the money, why not something a little more spirited than a 2tg
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You mean something like a 1G or a 3S or a 4A all things that will not allow him to get insurance?
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:17
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or build himself a coffin.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:18
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Would you want 16 year old kids getting around in spirited cars weighing less then 1000kg? Not only that, cost, insurance and experience all play a major factor. Robbie when i bought my TA22 i just kept with the good ol 2T now i'm 18 and have got a 3TGTE, compared to other peoples cars for my age i think im doing fairly well. 
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:31
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| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:16 |
| STR8 2.8 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:14 |
| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 19:55 |
Being 16 your only going to be able to keep the 1.6L engine
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why is that?
if he has the money, why not something a little more spirited than a 2tg
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You mean something like a 1G or a 3S or a 4A all things that will not allow him to get insurance?
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who needs insurance!
waste of time on anything until you're 25
and as i said, if he has the money...
i think its unfair to assume that because he is 16, he could not hande a spirited car.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:33
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Sure, because all those hours of video games translate to realworld experience at driving performance cars?
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:35
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| STR8 2.8 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:31 |
who needs insurance!
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Anyone driving a car. Just remember that if you do not have insurance and you are in an accident(caused by you or not) you are fucked. Under the new hooning laws you can have your licence taken from you for up to 7 years.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:37
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| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:35 |
| STR8 2.8 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:31 |
who needs insurance!
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Anyone driving a car. Just remember that if you do not have insurance and you are in an accident(caused by you or not) you are fucked. Under the new hooning laws you can have your licence taken from you for up to 7 years.
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comprehensive insurance is not law.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:38
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| STR8 2.8 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:37 |
| Cool1 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:35 |
| STR8 2.8 wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:31 |
who needs insurance!
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Anyone driving a car. Just remember that if you do not have insurance and you are in an accident(caused by you or not) you are fucked. Under the new hooning laws you can have your licence taken from you for up to 7 years.
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comprehensive insurance is not law.
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CTP is.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:41
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so what does the engine have to do with the CTP?
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:42
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Wilson, stop being a dong.
Man i thought a VL was fast on my P's haha
i think all P platers should be subjected to the same rules that apply in victoria. Then once your a little older you can start to have a fiddle around.
Or spend those first few years building up your weekend warrior to unleash when you are 18.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:43
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Last time I checked, when you mention a mod plate to the RTA you need to arrange CTP through a insurance company not through the RTA.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:45
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Lets make 18 the magical age, the age of reckoning?
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:46
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i have read that if your car isnt roadworthy ie. big engine conversion that isnt engineered you are voiding ur ctp and they wont cover you, and thats the same for third party etc so basically ur totally fuked if u crash with a un engineered car...
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:49
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| boris wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:45 |
Lets make 18 the magical age, the age of reckoning?
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Arbitary figure.
Make it 21, make it 30
The idea is to at least give people the experience before driving a car with a decent power/weight ratio.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Sun, 06 June 2004 10:54
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| BlackSupra wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:49 |
| boris wrote on Sun, 06 June 2004 20:45 |
Lets make 18 the magical age, the age of reckoning?
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Arbitary figure.
Make it 21, make it 30
The idea is to at least give people the experience before driving a car with a decent power/weight ratio.
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I was kidding.... 
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Tue, 08 June 2004 02:00
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Hey,
yeah thanks for that guys bit side tracked there but neway. soo a 2tg how hard are they to find and do they just drop in?? with the same box and everything.
thanks
Robbie
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Tue, 08 June 2004 02:15
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Easy to find (just ask around here) and yes they drop straight in.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Tue, 08 June 2004 03:19
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A 2TG is the best way to go now, but even before that I would look at replacing/improving your suspension and brakes set-up. Better to have a chassis that out-performs the engine first, than an engine that out-performs the chassis.
Been said before a million times, there is already excellent info
on this forum, Search and sit back and read up heaps.
Mitch.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Tue, 08 June 2004 05:09
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Ah sweet sixteen. I had a Hq Holden Station wagon as my first car. 3spd on the tree, 173 and drum brakes allround. Then I got a 1980 Toyota corona cause mum didn't want to teach me with drum brakes(wonder why). Just after i turned 18 i got my V8 HQ sedan. Very quick for my age. had a lot of fun, bar the breaking of things. Cops had there fun with it to but never any thing serious just minor offences. My advice to any one of a younger age is just to be careful with what you've got (power wise) it doesn't take much to have a serious accident ( as one of my mates found out. link at the bottom of the page) and that was only at 100km/h.
I have a 2tg for sale if you want it (in Tassie though)
http://www.southcom.com.au/~rtuttle/Sam7/index.htm l
Cheers Josh
website is worth a look. "it won't happen to me" well it might do one day just remeber that
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Tue, 08 June 2004 11:01
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Robbie,
Mate don't take this the wrong way but forget your engine plans and learn to drive the car first. Getting a feel for a low powered TA22 will be the best place you can start.
The old 2T is a tough engine and wil handle just about all you can dish at it, You would be MUCH better off by getting the rest of the car sorted out first. A good suspension package really transforms the car and I would lay even money that your steering box, tie rod ends and all underbody rubbers are in need of attention. Spending your dollars in this area would yield you a much better result than just dropping in a 2TG.
Being new to the Game you probably don't realise that a stock 2TG only makes 12hp more than your stock 2T. Sure they rev nicer and pull a bit longer but until you show then some attention ($$$) they are still pretty uninspireing. If you 2T is really lack luster $20 says your secondarys don't open. I have had more TA22's than I am years old (I'm 29) and I have only bought 1 that the secondary still worked in. Chepest fix is a 32/36 downdraft webber off a 2 litre ford escort or Cortina. Most carby specialists will be able to sell you an adaptor plate for this swap (about $30) and see if they can sell you or even fit the linkage set up go with it.
Thats your best starting place. A better safer ride and a properly running 2T can yield plenty of fun. Getting more power into the old girl is a small part of increasing the fun factor.
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Re: Ta22 Engine Conversion
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Wed, 09 June 2004 12:36
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i am in Victoria Western burbs
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