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Baulko Hillo
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Wed, 09 June 2004 12:04
 
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Dude, I'm facing exactly the same problem. I'm going to try to get a braided one made up tomorrow with an extra bit of length in it so it will run over the top of the extractors along the firewall. I'm going to try to get one with a banjo on the slave end as well, so it runs straight up.
I'll let you know how I go with it.
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Rosanna, Melb
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June 2002
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 00:54
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Get a banjo put on the end of the line that attaches to the slave cylinder. So you can point it out of the way.
Will still be close, but I have had no trouble at all with mine like that.
Hen
Can't see from the pictures, but if you run bundy tubing all the way to the slave then put some rubber in there. Allows for engine twist.
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 01:29
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Ok, went to Motorsport Connections at Seven Hills. They made one up on the spot out of braided high temp teflon line with a banjo on the slave end - $60!
Awesome considering Pirtek quoted $160-$180 and couldn't even put a banjo on the end!
Cheers,
Jeremy.
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August 2002
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 02:32
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i have an earls braided one on mine - $50
but its JDM so its on the other side of the gearbox
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Brisbane
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November 2003
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 05:49
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Mine looks very similar to the pic above, have had it in the car doing drift days/track days/general driving and have never had my clutch fluid be a problem.
That said i still want to put some heat shielding in or move the line.
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melbourne
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June 2002
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 06:00
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stupid question, i have looked at my slave cylinder and decided i will do the banjo thing,
the pipe adaptor that bolts into the slave isn't tapered is it? if it is i couldnt see a banjo fitting working.
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Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 07:48
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Hey, I got one from anthony Kellam on these forums for something like $20... it runs over the top of the headers accross the firewall... (oh yeah and despite what people have said about him I recieved mine within a few days of emailing)
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Sydney (Campbelltown...!)
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December 2003
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 08:07
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hey monkeymajik
your line doesnt seem to have a rubber section wouldnt this cause the metal pipe to stretch when the engine is under load and twisting
i am just putting a longer brake hose line in mine with a banjo fitting and then i went round and found a banjo nut that fitted
all for $10
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 08:16
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No it doesnt have a rubber section, it was like that when I got the car a few months ago. There is ample length of line and it does stretch and move.
I'm replacing the whole line shortly anyway 
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May 2002
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Thu, 10 June 2004 14:24
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i wouldn't trust that steel line to continue to "flex" for much longer, unless you've got solid motor mounts. it sure didn't come from the factory that way.
it looks you can probably swap the bleeder & inlet around if there are clearance/routing problems, at least on most slaves.
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Eskilstuna, Sweden
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May 2002
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Fri, 11 June 2004 01:43
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If your worried about heat soak you could always use that heat shielding sheaths that you slip over the line. Quick and easy to fit too.
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February 2003
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sat, 12 June 2004 01:24
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| RobertoX wrote on Thu, 10 June 2004 17:48 |
Hey, I got one from anthony Kellam on these forums for something like $20... it runs over the top of the headers accross the firewall... (oh yeah and despite what people have said about him I recieved mine within a few days of emailing)
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Going to drag this up again, but does anyone have a pic of this kit installed?
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sat, 12 June 2004 07:02
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i used the "clutch re-alignment kit" from anothoney kellam, it runs the hose over the top of the extractors and uses a banjo bolt on the slave cylinder and tha factory AE71 lines
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October 2003
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sat, 12 June 2004 07:07
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Hey WHITZL,
how close are your extractors to the clutch fork??
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sat, 12 June 2004 08:11
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since this topic is up..this is mine..
the clutch line is TOUCHING the extractors..what should i do about it besides getting braided lines
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sat, 12 June 2004 08:29
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fitst thing is zip tie/wire it the hell away form there!
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sat, 12 June 2004 08:39
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secondly??
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sat, 12 June 2004 09:35
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Secondly, get a braided line....
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sat, 12 June 2004 16:04
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what will happen if i dont put it out of the extractor? clutch failure?
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Adelaide
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 02:24
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You dont NEED a braided line, a standard type rubber one will be fine. Just get a longer one with the banjo fitting. This directs the line at 90deg to where it normally goes so its not going straight into the exhaust.
Your clutch wont fail as such, you will just loose the ability to actuate it. The line will probably crack and leak hence you cannot push the clutch in. this isn't that fun really (but you may learn to shift without clutch pretty quick if you want to get home  )
Once you do get home you can change the line and the clutch will still work, so changing it in the first place will avoid this scenario...
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Baulko Hillo
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 03:35
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| RobertoX wrote on Sun, 13 June 2004 12:24 |
You dont NEED a braided line, a standard type rubber one will be fine. Just get a longer one with the banjo fitting. This directs the line at 90deg to where it normally goes so its not going straight into the exhaust.
Your clutch wont fail as such, you will just loose the ability to actuate it. The line will probably crack and leak hence you cannot push the clutch in. this isn't that fun really (but you may learn to shift without clutch pretty quick if you want to get home )
Once you do get home you can change the line and the clutch will still work, so changing it in the first place will avoid this scenario...
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True, you don't NEED a braided line, but I just reckon if you're gonna replace it, you might as well do it properly to avoid any potential problems in the future. Just pece of mind really.
That's my $0.35
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 05:48
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i have no idea what banjo fitting is all about..it sounds like a egg burger to me in my country..
anyone got a picture of how it looks like or something?
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 05:57
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It's a fitting that looks kinda like a..... erm...... banjo....
Look up 'banjo fitting' or something in google. Tis easy mate.
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 06:08
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i hope it doesnt come out an egg buger in googles..
thanks
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 06:20
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I'll put a pic of mine up if someone wants to host it.....
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Adelaide
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 06:51
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i'll host it for ya..
pm on the way
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 07:09
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so i assume the banjo fitting is the squarish end?
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 07:14
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It's the fitting towards the top of the pic..... it's actually round and has a hollow bolt the screws into it and into the hole that your normal line would screw into so you can have the line coming off at 90 degrees straight off the slave, rather than having it straight out into the path of your extractors.
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 07:20
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Satoshi - Check your email. I just sent a banjo fitting pic.
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 07:55
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i still dont see the need for a braided line, can you please explain why you think its piece of mind over a rubber hose type?
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 08:04
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becoz karl, everyone knows more bling is betterer!
*duhhhh*
there is no real advantage i suppose apart from consistent pedal feel... not that ive noticed anyhow
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 08:21
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| THE WITZL wrote on Sun, 13 June 2004 17:55 |
i still dont see the need for a braided line, can you please explain why you think its piece of mind over a rubber hose type?
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DERRRR Witzl - Coz the Icy Hot Stuntaz told me it's better... And dey be KNOWIN' what's BLING yo! They is REAAAAALLL Yo.
Ummm...... I just think that coz the standard rubber one does not normally have a friggin exhaust rubbing it's thighs..... It's just my opinion dude. Plus as Garth mentioned, it MAY give more consistent pedal feel, although I think this relates more to brakes.
I dunno! I'll just go ask 'Freeze'....
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 08:46
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as far as i know, the hydraulic pressure of a clutch line is about 10 times LESS than that of a brake line, so a difference in pedal feel would be unmeasurable.
The heat issue really isnt a problem if you get the banjo fitting and run the line OVER the top of the exhaust, if you want assurance then wrap the bastard.
My last problem with braided lines is that there are 1000s of brands selling braided hydraulic lines, but VERY FEW of them are actually approved by the relevant authorities.
PLus.... it costs around about $15 to get a rubber hose MADE to your specs at a decent brake/clutch shop vs ~$50 for a braided one.
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: ae86 Clutch Line Heat and Exhaust (pics)
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Sun, 13 June 2004 09:37
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Oh well, each to their own eh? I chose to get a braided line. What other ppl do is up to them.
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