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Coilover kits
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Sat, 12 June 2004 13:08
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coilover kits such as sleeves,upper hat,nuts,etc for ae86 struts..
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November 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Tue, 15 June 2004 15:33
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Upper seat and adjustable case at 485, what else do u need?
thanks
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Re: Coilover kits
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Tue, 15 June 2004 21:29
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485  ? may i know what 'exclusive' brand is it?
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Location:
Seattle area, USA
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June 2002
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Re: Coilover kits
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Wed, 16 June 2004 02:25
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485? holy green backs batman..
I just did my RA21 celica for $150us. And they are the same kit that will fit the ae86..
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August 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Wed, 16 June 2004 05:09
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gary..next time before u post the price..i appreciate more info on your product u are about to sell...
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Sydney
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November 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Wed, 16 June 2004 05:53
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pm sent
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Redbank Plains,near Ipswi...
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May 2002
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Re: Coilover kits
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Thu, 17 June 2004 12:12
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OK, who has kits for US$150. thanks
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Brisbane
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September 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Thu, 17 June 2004 13:39
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$485 does sound high
How about these:
The sleeves (blue) with collars (gold) are from Fulcrum Suspension and cost $77 a pair - not each, a pair. I don't have a price on the hats but ring Fulcrum and ask them. For more pics of Xt131 struts shortened and made into coil-overs, see http://fookseung.fotki.com/automotive-1/ke35/front _strut_setup/.
Hope this is helpful,
Dominic
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Adelaide
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September 2003
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NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Re: Coilover kits
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Fri, 18 June 2004 06:56
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what is the length of adjustment for those collars???
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Sydney
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November 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Fri, 18 June 2004 10:21
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thats very cheap dude! I can see one small probelm though, they look like they are Alloy, do they have a way of mounting them to the legs? Most of the threaded tubes are steel, so you weld the to the leg.
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Fri, 18 June 2004 12:10
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i've got a reply from fulcrum..$40 each for sleeves and upper hat.. its quite cheap compared to what garyskl quoted me..
i'm still waiting for fulcrum to reply me on what the sleeves are made out off..
alloy is bad?
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Brisbane
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September 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Fri, 18 June 2004 14:46
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Fri, 18 June 2004 12:01 |
Just spoke to Fulcrum, and to get what is pictured is $180. It is $77/pair for the threaded collars, $77/pair for the upper spring plate, and $27.50 for a pair of spanners.
Not so cheap but still pretty good.
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Yeah, like I said in my original message "The sleeves (blue) with collars (gold) cost $77 a pair - not each, a pair. I don't have a price on the hats but ring Fulcrum and ask them." $77 is for a pair of sleeves and collars. Not the hats, not the spanners, not springs, not fitting, etc, etc.
For all who have asked, yes the sleeves are anodised ali. There's plenty of meat on them (about 4mm thick in the threaded area) so I think they're up to the job. I suspect if you were adjusting them a lot the threads might start to gall but, really, once they're set up, how often do you adjust them? Total adjustment range is 85mm. Yes, they will need a support ring welded to the strut to sit on. Also, the sleeves may need a light cut up the inside (50mm dia) to fit over your strut tubes - that will depend on the diameter of your struts. A six-pack to a friendly fitter/turner should see that done - every car modifier should know at least one tame fitter/turner  .
The Fulcrum hats aren't particularly remarkable (particularly if they really are $77/pr) and I didn't buy any for my application (although what I'm doing is a fair way out of the ordinary anyway ). The hats are cast ali, supplied completely unmachined i.e. not even drilled for the strut shaft. I would get the aforementioned friendly machinist to turn some up for me.
Fulcrum are Brisbane based and their web site is http://www.fulcrumsuspensions.com.au
Hope this info is helpful,
Dominic
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Re: Coilover kits
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Fri, 18 June 2004 15:38
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Sorry guys, mind is from Revolver, it is always good some people find something cheap!
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Fri, 18 June 2004 16:13
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anyone knows how much noltec kit then? if noltec kit is around the same price as fulcrum..i'll go for noltec
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Seattle area, USA
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June 2002
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Location:
NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Re: Coilover kits
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Sat, 19 June 2004 06:07
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i think i'll just go with the T3 coilover kit. $245AUD delivered to your door, everything you need including any rate spring, hats and spannars etc. the sleve has a whomping 6inches of travel and is designed to fit AE86 struts perfectly.
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Seattle area, USA
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June 2002
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Re: Coilover kits
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Sat, 19 June 2004 08:36
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6" of travel and 6" of adjustably are 2 separate things.
Stiff springs with less travel bottom more easily..
same rate springs, longer free length take more compression to bottom.
Also when you do lower it without lowering the bottom of the strut tube you lose that much more "travel"
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Location:
Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Sat, 19 June 2004 10:30
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now i'm not sure about T3 stuff..i've heard ppl say their stuff breaks.. i'm waiting for 3sglevin to quote me on Noltec kit..no more fulcrum sleeves since they are made of alloy... 
tell me...does the sleeves tend to rust a little over a long period of time?
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Seattle area, USA
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Brisbane
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September 2003
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Re: Coilover kits
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Sat, 19 June 2004 14:58
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| Satoshi wrote on Sat, 19 June 2004 20:30 |
no more fulcrum sleeves since they are made of alloy...
tell me...does the sleeves tend to rust a little over a long period of time?
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What's the problem with alloy? They're anodised so they'll stay in good condition pretty much forever without corrosion/oxidation. They're thicker wall than the steel strut tubes that currently hold the car up so strength shouldn't be an issue. As wil8115 says, most aftermarket coil-over kits use alloy sleeves.
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Re: Coilover kits
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Sat, 19 June 2004 20:21
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ops..i dont mean that alloy will rust ...i thought alloy and metal dont go together?
the rust i was talking about is from a used coilover from a guy...
after post and post..still none of you can confirm the noltec kit with me?? i wanna know what price u guys get...
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Re: Coilover kits
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Sun, 20 June 2004 07:42
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guys, the threaded sleeves need to be solidly secured to the strut tube, the usual method is welding. At last check, we cant weld steel to aluminium alloy, so you have big problem!!!. the fulcrum ones are meant to sit on a steel ring that gets welded to the strut body. they must be a tight fit over the strut tube, so you must choose carefully, otherwise the rattles will drive you mad. the cheap kits use O rings to take up any slack between the tube inner and the strut tube outer. a short thread is not a problem so long as you have various coil lengths. In general, for road cars, you need about 250mm long coils otherwise the coil goes slack on rebound, and rattles like crap. alterntively, you can use a "helper" spring, which is a flat steel spring , but you need an adaptor ring to buttt up to the main coil.
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