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 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Mon, 14 June 2004 12:08
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Just wondering if anyone could enlighten me as to which engine variants the 97 Supra came in?
I've heard the 7M-GTE is one variant.
Did the 97 Supra ever come out of the factory with a 7M-GE?
Thanks... sorry for the lamish question 
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Montrose, VIC
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Mon, 14 June 2004 12:14
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| eluthria wrote on Mon, 14 June 2004 22:08 |
Just wondering if anyone could enlighten me as to which engine variants the 97 Supra came in?
I've heard the 7M-GTE is one variant.
Did the 97 Supra ever come out of the factory with a 7M-GE?
Thanks... sorry for the lamish question
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Ick. Did you hear that from the same place as tells people that 'you can drift an ate-siks with a 4ac, as long as you have a JDM steering wheel and JDM interior light cover'
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Mon, 14 June 2004 12:15
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Now I'll be nice... '97 Supra came with either a 2JZ-GE or 2JZ-GTE
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Mon, 14 June 2004 12:19
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97 wtf?
why such a random year?
93-95 (non vvti) and 96+ (vvti)
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Mon, 14 June 2004 12:41
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7M-GE and 7M-GTE was found in 86-92 Supra's. The M series engines were long retired by 97!
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Mon, 14 June 2004 13:16
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Thanks for the speedy replies guys.
I guess I should explain the reason for my strange question...
I'm having a mechanic put a new motor in my MX83 Cressida. The mechanic has told me that he has got me a low millage 7M-GE jap import which came from a 97 Supra?
Basically I was just trying to check if this information is true because I found it hard to believe that a 97 Supra would use something like that.
Now the problem is that this same mechanic put a jap import 5M-GE in my MX73 Cressida and told me the engine came from a 92 Supra? I'm not complaining about the work though, I've been running the MX73 with the new engine for a year and it's ultra smooth and has plenty of power, really a great car with the new engine.
I'm just wondering if this guy's telling me furfeys or is just not real switched on when it comes to Toyotas? The engines this guy gets come from 'ICHIban Performace Engines' in MOOREBANK NSW if that helps anyone.
Thoughts?
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 01:19
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Your mechanic is off by 10 years. The 7M-GE was found in the 87 Supra and the 5M-GE was found in the 82 Supra. Whether he's deliberately misleading you or just ignorant is another matter.
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 03:49
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I confronted the mechanic over this issue and he assures me that Supras in Japan still used a 7M-GE engine in 1997 and they also came in single and twin turbo variants; 7M-GTE.
Any thoughts specifically on Japanese Supras?
Another thought... once I get the new engine number would this be likely to yield any further information/confirmation such as maybe a manufacture date or something?
Thanks for your help thus far.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 03:52
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Go see a new mechanic, unfortunately to be blunt he is a dong and proved this by not accepting he was wrong. The 7M came in the 7MGE and the 7MGTE (single turbo)...nothing else.
The 97 Supra, regardless of it's location (all of the ones we have are Japanese models anyway) came with a 2JZ of some description.
They stopped making the 7M ages ago. Your mechanic needs to go read and get the correct info before he goes speaking.
Sorry if I was really blunt 
Nathan
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 04:08
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Or he might be legit...
He might be selling 2JZs thinking that they're 7Ms. They're both 3.0L Toyota sixes...
hehe
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 04:27
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Hmmm... might need to go and buy one of his 7Ms for me 1.5JZ conversion then
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 05:20
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The fact that he's talking about single and twin turbo variants suggests he's just plain full of crap. There hasn't been a single turbo Supra since the 7M was retired in 92 or so.
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 07:17
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Hope that he is better informed about the mechanical side of thing rather than history, or id go elsewhere.
Tell him to read the trade practices act 
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 11:26
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Thanks for all the great input guys I really appreciate it!
I guess all of you are right in saying that this chap doesn't really know what he's on about. This guy however has shown me a good track record of being an honest mechanic that doesn't charge the world. As I said before he did a great job replacing the 5M-GE in my MX73, it really runs well now.
It's all a bit confusing now knowing the truth about these engines. I guess fingers crossed he does a good job with the 7M-GE. I'll leave a post here in a week or so and let you all know how I got on.
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 11:42
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if the work he does is good, and you know you're only getting an '87 engine, as long as the price is right why go elsewhere?
I know plenty of people who think the 7m is a 2jz, so why not think the 2jz is a 7m?
Ichiban... I've heard limited things about them, but generally they've been good reports.
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 12:25
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Ive been to ichiban, seemed like they had some decent customer service, never bought from them though.
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Tue, 15 June 2004 14:47
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Either way the 7M is a huge step up from the 5M, just as long as he doesnt charge 2JZ rates for a 7M engine you'd be smiling anyway right?
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Sydney, northshore
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June 2004
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Wed, 16 June 2004 01:26
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I've dealt with Ichiban once, which is no huge amount to base this comment on but I found them to be quite expensive and not particularly helpful. This was when buying a half cut from them some 4 years ago.
Actually having dealt with 2 other jap import specialists I find these traits are pretty common..
Does anyone have any GOOD experiences with these people?
Speaking of dodgey mechanics I took my newly purchased MA61 (it is the one that was in the tradingpost this week) to one yesterday.
He takes a look under the bonnet for about 5 minutes and then tells me something very profound which I didnt know:
"its a SIX cylinder. its got double overhead camshafts. not many people know about this kind of engine."
Im suddenly feeling very unconfident in this guys abilities.
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Mon, 28 June 2004 13:51
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Hey... just dropping back to say I've finaly got my car back with its new engine fitted. My mechanic still stands by his 97 Supra story however. I'm not complaining though the car seems to be running really well; my compliments to UltraTune Menai.
Besides the mechanics being hella busy there were no huge complications other than a different sump shape which lead to a slightly different location on the oil presure pump. Other than that it was a clean installation with no hiccups.
The 7M-GE really is a huge step up from the 5M-GE you were right there 'Alchemist'. There's a completely different feel about the engine... heaps more torque too.
My experience with Ichiban so far has been two good engines out of two. I don't know what their customer service or after sales support is like though.
All in all I'm a very happy camper right now but time will tell how this refit goes...
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Re: 97 Supra Engine Variants
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Wed, 30 June 2004 11:52
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And Eluthria, I would be a little concerned with his knowledge, but as long as you're happy with his work and his prices then thats all thats important! 
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