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Chris Davey
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thermal wrapping for exhaust Wed, 16 June 2004 03:01 Go to next message
Does anyone know where to get it from and how much it usually is?

I don't have a heat shield so I think I will need it.
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RWDboy
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Wed, 16 June 2004 03:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Urgh...I wouldn't recommend using this stuff on an exhaust manifold. It's okay to wrap around certain things that get hot, but the exhaust manifolds themselves tend to rot when you put this stuff on.

You would definitely be better off getting your exhaust manifold ceramic coated - yes it's expensive - but if you want to do things right, it's best to do them right the first time rather than waste a whole exhaust manifold and the wrapping just to prove a point Sad
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Chris Davey
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Wed, 16 June 2004 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
are you talking about the section of exhaust from exhaust port to the turbo?

I was going to wrap the dump pipes until the firewall. same thing apply to them?
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Norbie
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Wed, 16 June 2004 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep, ceramic coating is the best for that area. I got my dump pipe HPC coated; it's expensive but it works heaps better than thermal wrap and lasts forever. Anyway it's cheaper than a melted steering rack that's for sure! Laughing
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Wed, 16 June 2004 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Definitely get that ceramic coated!!! Don't bother with the thermal wrap
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Wed, 16 June 2004 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
while i totally agree with you guys, if you have a shit manifold already, then wrapping is a good intermediate thing until you get new pipes...
autospeed actually have damn good prices for it too.. i got some 1" and 2" for use at uni... DON't get the 1" as it's a pain to wrap pipes with.. 2" or wider is so much better.

i would DEFINITELY NOT recommend it for turbo manifolds or dump pipes, as it starts to melt around 600C.. is usually ok for NA tho.

Chris, if you have a new manifold/dump pipe, save the $50 or so for wrap and get them properly coated... better insulation, lasts longer, protects the pipes from corrosion.... just all around better.

but yeah, as a stop gap to prevent other shit melting before getting new pipes.. why not Wink

Cya, Stewart
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just for anyones interest u can get that stuff on ebay. I think a roll of 2", 6 metres long is $35.
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.autospeed.com/shop/category_435/browse. html

i tried asking questions of that "flyin performance" guy on ebay.. too hard Wink

at least i know the autospeed crap is "High Energy" brand....
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c2888
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 03:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
heat wrap tape, look for a boiler maker, it'll be much cheaper

if only i knew before i lagged my headers, i got the energy stuff, only just managed to cover my 4-2-1 extractors down to the end of the primaries.

dodgydan
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Alainve
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
im a boiler maker Razz
the heat mats used by boiler makers and welders are pretty much the same stuff but the big difference is the stuff we use at work comes in 1 meter squares or bigger! so unless you dont mind cutting it up and having a ragged edge visible all the way down the pipework use proper tape.

your better off getting a heat shield made up for the parts you want to protect and then getting your new pipework ceramic coated
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Chris Davey
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
would it be alright to get one of my dump pipes ceramic coated and just wrap the other one. Because the other one doesn't have a flange to remove it from the rest of the exhaust.

I don't really want to get a heat shield made as I doubt the turbos will be staying there for a long time.
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thechuckster
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thermal wrap melts at about 600-700 degrees C

if you get the manifold/turbo/pipes above this (e.g. red hot) for a reasonable amount of time (like i did) you turn the wrap into glass

Shocked

looks pretty neato afterwards but the actual event is kind of frightening

rather than shield the pipe, shield the sensitive stuff?
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Chris Davey
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aah ok gotcha. Just need to get some sort of heat resistant thing like the wrap or a shield on the things near the dump pipes and leave them as they are.

thanks
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omegaman
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got the thermo tape from repco, 2"x15mtrs for seventy bucks.
I think the thing to remember is when you do budget with the wrappings you use, is to read the instructions. A lot of people don't know that when using this tape they should also seal it.
The recommended sealer is VHT flame proof to 1200 deg F. Then you go through the 30 minute curing process.
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Re: thermal wrapping for exhaust Thu, 17 June 2004 11:09 Go to previous message
If you want some really really good heat wrap, Give KCF Rallysport a call. They have some nice really thick stuff.
If you want some and get a price from Keith there, just tell him Shane sent ya Wink He probably wont mail the stuff to you so you'll have to pick it up or arrange something with me.
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