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what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Wed, 04 September 2002 12:07
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my brother just icqed me this..
Toyota Corolla 1986, twin cam, 1600, stroked 2.0L, 5 speed manual, ceramic button clutch, MR2, 5 speed gearbox, lowered, 15in Motorsport mags, custom metallic blue paint job, tinted windows, CD player, sports exhaust, a real eye catcher, 6 months rego, $5999
from the tradingpost
shame after all that work.. its not really worth selling
[Updated on: Wed, 04 September 2002 12:07]
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Wed, 04 September 2002 12:33
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From memory there ain't enough meat in the block to do so. Or not atleast for it to last.
I remember talk on club4ag.
Jaz
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Thu, 05 September 2002 01:43
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Maybe if it's using an MR2 Gearbox it's also using an MR2 2.0L engine??  Now that actually might be worthwhile buying for $5999!!
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Thu, 05 September 2002 02:21
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Jaz, I didn't think you needed any meat when increasing stroke.
Stroking just requires lengthening the piston travel rather than increasing the bore to acheive added displacement.
Or unless im well wrong
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Thu, 05 September 2002 03:11
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Rex,
It's called stroking but you still usually need to increase bore at the same time.
In any case, you couldn't stroke the 4a block much anyway.
HKS 5ag from memory needs some machining of the block to fit in the 5A crank.
5AG's were 172Xcc??? from memory.
Jaz
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Thu, 05 September 2002 09:51
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I saw the same add, the guy was full of it (trader Ad)... There is no way a 4AGE can be stroked to 2.0l, the HKS kit does need a bit of grinding to the block before the crank can clear, and this only get's it to 1.7L. I asked how! I really heard some crap about it (Trying not to laugh). He didn't really respond when I said it's impossible to get a 2.0L from a 4AGE, and could be if it was a '7A' with a stroker... The answer was he could be wrong and he really didn't know if it was or not.
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Thu, 05 September 2002 11:57
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Other way round, big bore, short stroke , your argument sounds fine but you have them the wrong way round.
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Thu, 05 September 2002 15:10
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I recon it would be using a 7A block.
I really don't think there is enough meat in the block to do it.
I think I will wait for someone more knowledgable who I would believe know's. Not here-say. I'm here-say 
Jaz
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Thu, 05 September 2002 22:14
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yeah thats what i mean big diamiter and short depth 
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Fri, 06 September 2002 05:16
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From what i remember.
an engine with a close to square (1:1 stroke/bore ratio) creates the best compromise between rev capability and torque.
Reasons:
Longer stroke means that the ofset from the crank's pivot to the conrod is larger which creates more leverage around the crank pivot the which in turn equates to more rotational force (torque)
But however, Because of the longer throw of the piston the travel speeds are increased dramatically which means there is higher inertial strain on moving components.
This is partly why longer stroke engines such as commodore sixes etc dont like to rev anywhere as much as the 2J supra six.
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Fri, 06 September 2002 05:23
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unless we are all misreading the ad the i reckon its also either a 7a stroke or a 3s motor.
maybe the ad means the car is a twin cam 1600 but has had a stroked 2l in it. does that sense.
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Fri, 06 September 2002 09:41
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How bout someone just ring up like I did and go have a look, if it a 4AGE, 1721cc would be the most with the HKS kit, a 7A crank,etc, doesn't work, a 7A block is taller (being through this with Mos 100x and he was right), so the best I could say it is either a 3S or a Stroked 7AGE, with 7A option being big bucks, ie over $5000. So i'd like to take a punt that's it is an Corolla Twin Cam with a 3S in it, and I know someone on this forum does have a 3SGTE in his corolla, So I feel that is the most likely option and cheapess...
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Fri, 06 September 2002 11:19
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so the 4AGE cant be stroked to a 2.0L?
My erection is now flacid.......
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Fri, 06 September 2002 12:29
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Could have done without the last mental image
When you read the VERY POORLY worded add, you can sort of read:
Toyota Corolla 1986, twin cam, 1600 AE82 Twin Cam 16
stroked 2.0L, 5 speed manual, ceramic button clutch, MR2, 5 speed gearbox, motor and gearbox out of SW20 MR2
Jaz
When is this thread beingmoved to tech and conversion?
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Fri, 06 September 2002 12:58
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But...
If the motor is a 3S, wouldn't it then invalidate the "Stroked 2.0L" part?
Just my observation.
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Sat, 07 September 2002 02:46
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maybe but very unlikely
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Sat, 07 September 2002 14:38
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oh...oh.. i think i know this one!
a engine shop was building them for the open wheelers!
they were using a 7A block with the 4AGE head and getting around the 2L mark out of them. from what i heard, they werent very strong, but would rev like nothing else
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Sun, 08 September 2002 01:19
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By far the cheapest way to get a two litre engine into your car is to start with a two litre, such as a 3SGE. Stroker cranks and so on for 4AGE's end up very expensive indeed, and they use bespoke parts that are very hard to replace if something goes wrong.
It's often best to use as many stock parts as possible when building engines, as it makes fixing the blasted things easier in the long run. 
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Sun, 08 September 2002 07:22
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Thank's I been looking for that kit on the web for age's...
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Sun, 08 September 2002 07:46
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yes far easier just starting off with a 2.0l. especially with toyota when u have the option of the 3sgte
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Sun, 08 September 2002 15:02
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Don't you mean starting off w/ 3sge BEAMS w/ 6speed
Jaz
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Re: what the! stroked 4AGE??! 2.0L!!
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Sun, 08 September 2002 21:26
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Is that 8AG a stroker kit for the 7A's?
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there is suppose to be a 2.0 ltr stroker kit in the states for the 4age. a aw-11 mr2 was bought into aust years ago. i read about it back in '96 or '97. i dont think i have the feature anymore, if i ever come across it in my (lost count boxes full of car mags etc.) i will let ya know.
