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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 01 September 2004 08:49
 
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| FWDboy wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 18:10 |
Methinks your oldie has too much money and too good a taste in cars 
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Meh, they are both rice burners, im trying to convince him to get a porsche or a ferrari...
But he just wont bite the bastard!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 01 September 2004 08:50
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Hey back on topic!
Theres anothervaild point!
You dont see supercar makers building crappy FWD's do you!!!
They may have rear engine setups but no FWD!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 01 September 2004 09:17
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That's because FWDs are shit. 
If you are going to build a car for $100,000 that is designed purely for semi track/racing purposes...why try to build a good FWD car? It's a waste of time, you'll be able to build a better car for the purpose by using RWD.
And Honda S2000s are good stuff, not rice burners
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 01 September 2004 09:31
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| FWDboy wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 18:47 |
That's because FWDs are shit.
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FINALLY YOU ADMIT IT!!!!!!!
The S2K is very very well engineered motor vehicle that goes like the clappers, and for its size and number of cylinders, produces more power than any other N/A motor but it is still a rice burner...
And they are becoming like WRX's now becuase they are more affordable every poof with a bank loan is buying one to shlap 20" rims on it and an exhaust and then they think they are fully sick cruisers...
If it were mine, i would slap in the spoon cams, some lighter racing wheels with more width, theres some italian made rims that are 12" wide at the back due to the massif offset of the rear that allow 305 tyres, stainless steel 2.5" exhaust with subtle mufflers and some headers, then put the bitch on the farken track, which is what they were designed and built for!
10,000 rpm here we come
Oh and maybe some higher compression pistons, and see if we can crack 15:1
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 02 September 2004 07:16
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Five pages of drivel.... Lookin good ma peeeps!!
Do club-rally cars have minimum weights?
if not - strip-out a RWD and ballast the mid-rear end, for super traction!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 02 September 2004 08:08
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this thread was over so long ago man, just get over it 
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 02 September 2004 08:20
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I must've been offline when Toymods banned miscellaneous chit-chat/crapping-on about car stuff. What are the new rules for the forums?
Seriously though - where can I find out about the Aus-delivered Sprinter's specs. I look like checking one out for a mate in the morning, or on the weekend.
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 02 September 2004 08:37
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 17:50 |
I must've been offline when Toymods banned miscellaneous chit-chat/crapping-on about car stuff. What are the new rules for the forums?
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This forum would close if they banned that!
hahaha
j/j
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 02 September 2004 13:41
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wait a min... y whould u build a $100,000 fwd car in the 1st place 
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 03 September 2004 01:44
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| rthy wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 23:11 |
wait a min... y whould u build a $100,000 fwd car in the 1st place
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Becuase you were ghey ?
Then again the Alfa GTV is about $80,000 and thats FWD, ekgh!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 03 September 2004 04:33
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I *ugh* at you!!!
FWDs aren't *bad*, they just aren't the best platform if your SOLE use for a car is to take it off a trailer, do a few laps around a circuit, and then chuck it back on a trailer again.
If however you use cars for multiple purposes then they can be quite neat.
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 03 September 2004 13:28
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Fri, 03 September 2004 11:44 |
| rthy wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 23:11 |
wait a min... y whould u build a $100,000 fwd car in the 1st place
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Becuase you were ghey ?
Then again the Alfa GTV is about $80,000 and thats FWD, ekgh!
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Ghey with Aids, Hep-B and Hep-C !! 
I've only ever read one review of a powerful, FWD Alfa that didn't power-understeer like hell, and try to tear the steering wheel out of the drivers hand with torque-steer. It was tricked-up by some european suspension tuning mob, however to exorcise most of its FWD demons, it apparently rode like a rollerskate over rocks. Driven in EVO magazine, june issue I think.
Not real useful for anything but track-work with suspension like that, eh FWDboy?
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 03 September 2004 16:04
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I don't know what you are getting at there ST184_sillycar...
But saying that FWDs are crap because some euro-engineers went loco on the Alfa isn't conclusive I mean - I think it's a very unusual idea to make a FWD car that is only for track purposes, you certainly won't ever go quite as quick as a rear wheel drive car would. Basically, it's a case of triumph of engineering over the concept itself. I'm fairly sure that FWDs aren't as quick around most tracks as a RWD would be - stressing that there are other certain conditions that come with that statement.
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 03 September 2004 17:17
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I wish I could lock threads...
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sat, 04 September 2004 01:39
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| old_mr2 wrote on Sat, 04 September 2004 02:47 |
I wish I could lock threads...
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ahahahaha
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sat, 04 September 2004 01:51
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some of the best handling cars around are fwd, it just got to do with what type of car it is.
i drove this piece of sh*t '84 saab 900 sedan, chalky paint and the rest, this car had great handling, it was fwd.
they just don't like it, because u can't drift in a rwd..u can't do a "sik burnnn-out mate". or something
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sat, 04 September 2004 02:03
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some of the best handling cars around are fwd, it just got to do with what type of car it is.
i drove this piece of sh*t '84 saab 900 sedan, chalky paint and the rest, this car had great handling, it was fwd.
better than my soarer somethings
they just don't like it, because u can't drift in a rwd..u can't do a "sik burnnn-out mate". or something
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sat, 04 September 2004 02:19
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I think you will find that on track, in the same class, that fwd will be faster than rwd. My proof is blokes by the name of Laurie D'Lassio and Shane Seward driving in under 2lt street sedans(in a CRX|). The have won the state title(WA) for four consecutive years and also won the national title aswell. And to top it all off, they hold the lap record at Barbagello for the class.
Now i will agree that once you get up in the power stakes (above 300whp) that rear wheel drives seemed to be better suited.
But then again it was only a few years ago that in the WRC event in Corsica, the fwd Citroen was kicking everybody's ass, and there was no rwd to be seen.
Cheers
Jeff
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sat, 04 September 2004 04:39
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Muhahahaha - just rile'n you up FWDboy.
I was just assisting the point made by Mr.1GGTE about the Alfa GTV (ehk).
I've read HEAPS of test-drive reviews on FWD's, and this was the only report on a powerful FWD didn't do all the nasty FWD things. The downside was that it was rendered an absolute mongrel for anything rougher than an autobarn/racetrack.
So there ya go - keep it under 130kw and there shouldn't be any problems!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Mon, 06 September 2004 12:03
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I could start arguing for RWD here if I wanted to But I won't.
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Mon, 06 September 2004 13:19
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FWD r cool, we NEED FWD! CANT LIVE WITH OUT THEM!!! NEEEEDDD MORE!!!!!! 
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 07 September 2004 01:35
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| rthy wrote on Mon, 06 September 2004 22:49 |
FWD r cool, we NEED FWD! CANT LIVE WITH OUT THEM!!! NEEEEDDD MORE!!!!!!
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yeah
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 07 September 2004 03:48
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Took me mums camry touring to go and get petrol, haven't driven it for a couple of weeks. Any how Going through one of the best streets in the local area, nice long flowing corners speed of aroun 80-90 as they tighten mid turn and cars on side of road. Third gear fulkl throttle coming out of the corner and you can hear it starting to pick up the inside wheel and spin. Fuck wit in a commodore waiting to turn right when about 30m away from him he comes out and I had already hit the brakes, stupid dick tried to take me out.
Of the next intersection with him sitting beside me him turning left me right, I wait until alll the traffics clear and then just dump it. Smoke pouring off the front wheels go the front wheel drives. I finally think the camrys more fun than the corona.
Coming home from school today, mate goes past in his 96 Laser liata. Follow him in the rona reeling him in slowing (pretty good considering he alraedy had plenty of speed up). Get to a roundabout both turning right, he pulls the hand brake up and does a pretty mad drift around. I slow down to about twenty in second and then boot it, slide it out of the roundabout and spin the wheels for about 30-50m up the road.
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 16 September 2004 08:15
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 13:48 |
Off the next intersection with him sitting beside me him turning left me right, I wait until alll the traffics clear and then just dump it. Smoke pouring off the front wheels go the front wheel drives. I finally think the camrys more fun than the corona.
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Dude: that's not cool!!
Give yo momma's poor camry a break!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 16 September 2004 08:20
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V6 Camry's rock!!! they fucking fly! FWD too!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 16 September 2004 10:10
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| mick wrote on Thu, 16 September 2004 18:20 |
V6 Camry's rock!!! they fucking fly! FWD too!
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Maybe if you built an F3 or mini-Lemans car around a manual Camry V6 drivetrain......
Has anyone seen the "Radical S3" trackday cars?
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 16 September 2004 14:08
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| st184 sillycar wrote on Thu, 16 September 2004 17:45 |
| Corona RT142 wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 13:48 |
Off the next intersection with him sitting beside me him turning left me right, I wait until alll the traffics clear and then just dump it. Smoke pouring off the front wheels go the front wheel drives. I finally think the camrys more fun than the corona.
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Dude: that's not cool!!
Give yo momma's poor camry a break!
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Dont listen to a wood he says!
HAMMER THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR MUMS CAR, thats what they are there for!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Thu, 16 September 2004 14:41
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Hey aren't the touring cars in the UK FWD'ers??? like the vectra's, mondeo's and stuff? why would they bother spending the money on them hey
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Fri, 17 September 2004 02:28
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last time I checked they were all different, the beemers were RWD, the Audis 4WD and the other gay ones were FWD 
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sat, 18 September 2004 23:46
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IT'S ALL FUCKING GAY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
I'm over it! I'm just gunna say every cars shit!!!!
regardless of drive there's always something wrong with every model!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 19 September 2004 00:29
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what happened mick?
did you blow something up?
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 19 September 2004 02:26
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Na mate all's well. just bored shitless and was hoping to start something with that remark
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 19 September 2004 02:33
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| mick wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 11:56 |
Na mate all's well. just bored shitless and was hoping to start something with that remark
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Nice try
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 19 September 2004 02:37
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 12:33 |
| mick wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 11:56 |
Na mate all's well. just bored shitless and was hoping to start something with that remark
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Nice try
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I'll try harder next time
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Sun, 19 September 2004 03:32
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| mick wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 12:07 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 12:33 |
| mick wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 11:56 |
Na mate all's well. just bored shitless and was hoping to start something with that remark
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Nice try
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I'll try harder next time
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FWD'S SUCK MAJOR PENISES!!!
see thats how you gotta do it
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Mon, 20 September 2004 07:50
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| MR 1GGTE wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 13:32 |
| mick wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 12:07 |
| MR 1GGTE wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 12:33 |
| mick wrote on Sun, 19 September 2004 11:56 |
Na mate all's well. just bored shitless and was hoping to start something with that remark
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Nice try
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I'll try harder next time
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FWD'S SUCK MAJOR PENISES!!!
see thats how you gotta do it
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That's the spitit 1GGTE ! ! ! !
Ya gotta single-out one specific group of enthusiasts to flame. If you bag everyone, people just ignore you!
I've found it also helps if you try and explain WHY the group/vehicle(s) are ghey, and also demean the intelligence of the owners of said car(s).
For example:
V6 Camrys might be handy in a straight line (once they've stopped uselessly spinning wheels off the line), but try and turn a corner AND accelerate. Eh?? what happens geek?
Plough Understeer!
Thats right losers. At least the Toyota engineers make the steering so numb & lifeless in Camrys that you can't feel the torque-steer.
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 21 September 2004 08:37
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Each to their own, they all have positives and negatives about each other.
THE END....
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 21 September 2004 09:04
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| smt_007 wrote on Tue, 21 September 2004 18:07 |
Each to their own, they all have positives and negatives about each other.
THE END....
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mate you are smoking crack if you think this is the end of the FWD vs RWD vs AWD thread, this is gonna be a never ending battle that will...errr....never end
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Tue, 21 September 2004 09:06
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the end
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 21 September 2004 09:46
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No it isn't...
*waits for mods to say 'the end'*
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Tue, 21 September 2004 10:02
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That's digusting.
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 21 September 2004 10:07
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GO THE HANDIVAN!!
I have had a multitude of these cars between me and my mates, they ROCK!
We managed to bolt an SC12 up to one...It didnt last long
great fun tho!
Shame it was FWD...
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 21 September 2004 10:13
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hey man, lol that sounds awesome by the way its a 86 suzuki alto there pretty identical to the handivan, you probably couldnt tell because the whole front had been taken off
brad
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 21 September 2004 10:33
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it was supercharged but it was still slow as a MOFO!!!
my mates sigma would beat it!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Tue, 21 September 2004 23:12
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| toyotacrown76 wrote on Tue, 21 September 2004 19:54 |
check out what 10KW can do!!
brad
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And it's Gold GOLD GOLD for Australia!!
(Smoke 'em if you got em)
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 02:16
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HAHAHAHAHA  i did a huge arse one on sat but didnt get pics
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 02:54
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| toyotacrown76 wrote on Wed, 22 September 2004 11:46 |
HAHAHAHAHA i did a huge arse one on sat but didnt get pics
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Well that doesnt help anyone does it...
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 02:58
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yeah it doesnt help many people, will get a pic of me doing a huge arse one this sat.brad
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 03:11
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| toyotacrown76 wrote on Wed, 22 September 2004 12:28 |
yeah it doesnt help many people, will get a pic of me doing a huge arse one this sat.brad
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How many wheel hubs have you chewed through champ?
I bought every disc brake one that Diasuzi had when I had mine becuase they would only last about a 3-4 weeks max!
Then we bit the bullet and welded them up, and then the CV joints went
You cant win with those cars, honestly
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 03:12
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Funny stuff indeed but if youre gonna write something that simple then at least get it right! Audi 80's are FWD and they have a north south engine setup on the 2.6 litre model...
That is sooo funney tho
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 03:26
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hey mr iggte, i have been through 2 cv joint seals dont know what else is goin to go wrong lol after this next burnout hopefully nothing
brad
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 03:27
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| toyotacrown76 wrote on Wed, 22 September 2004 12:56 |
hey mr iggte, i have been through 2 cv joint seals dont know what else is goin to go wrong lol after this next burnout hopefully nothing
brad
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Do you mean the CV boots or is there a seal for where the halfshaft goes into the gearbox?
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Wed, 22 September 2004 03:33
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yeah man it must be the boots i dont know much about FWD all i know is there good for handbrakies and burnouts lol.
brad
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 03:51
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indeed they are!
JUst remeber to post up more pics after the next effort ok!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 04:11
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haha will be done, how about vids as well?
brad
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 04:20
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You make em...Ill host em!
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 04:27
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yeah righto i'll see what i can do. brad
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Re: Front wheel drives
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Wed, 22 September 2004 04:29
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| toyotacrown76 wrote on Wed, 22 September 2004 13:57 |
yeah righto i'll see what i can do. brad
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Youll see what you can do is no where near good enough!
WE WANT VIDS WE WANT THEM NOW!!!!!
Nar is ok whatever you can organise would be good champ!
ps this thread ha been hijacked!
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