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anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 11:41
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thinking of running anti lag on my 4agte
is it legal in nsw?
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 11:50
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You realise that a turbo lasts about 3000km with an anti lag system don't you?
And, no, it's not legal.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 11:50
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LOL, what do you think 
anti-lag is a correctly sized turbo
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Location:
ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 11:58
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dont care how long the turbo lasts
is anti lag not false information from the computer keeping the turbo on all the time
not really worried about it being legal
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sydney
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:02
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On one hand it sounds the best and your car absolutely hauls off the mark 
Then on the other hand it's not really the best idea. My brother had it hooked up on his cappuccino and in the end he melted a brand new set of those platinum sparkplugs, blew up a brand new cat, melted his coil and a few other bits and pieces broke.
For what it will cost to get all the shit you blow up fixed, NO it's not worth it.
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:02
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yes thats it... the computer is keeping the turbo on
if you mean severe spark retardation to allow unburnt fuel to ignite in the exhaust then...
just forget the idea ... really....
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:08
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hehe I was hoping to get in there before Stewart flamed you, but looks like I'm too late...
A turbo is a mechanical system, there's no way for a computer to control it.
Anti lag is shooting solid fuel into your exhaust to keep you turbo spinning when the throttle snaps shut. The exploding fuel is what makes the bang-bang sound. And exploding fuel will kill your turbo VERY quickly.
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Location:
ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:09
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car has no cat and will be set up soon to run on av gas
engine is built strong by my engine builder
computer has launch control also
i recon if i have anti lag launch control and a bov it will sound like a wrc citroen on the limiter go like fuck and will confuse the fuck out most drivers on the road
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:12
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The last part of the nick says it all 
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sydney
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:14
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I say do it then
It sounds fuckn mad man! We used to be sitting at the lights when dudes would roll up and want a run, flick the anti lag on and the looks you would get were priceless
You get the flames out the exhaust and everything
It sounds like a rally car!
Go for it man.....Tell me how you go though.
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Location:
Wollongong, NSW
Registered:
October 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:16
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| SEXY 16 wrote on Tue, 22 June 2004 22:09 |
i recon if i have anti lag launch control and a bov it will sound like a wrc citroen on the limiter go like fuck and will confuse the fuck out most drivers on the road
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for about a week
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:19
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what u recon i wont do it or it cant be done?
computer is a motec mt48 pro
all the accessories are on there so it can be set up
car isnt a daily driver so i should get a year out of the turbo
i had a gt4 with anti lag before drove it for 7 months and sold it with the same turbo
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:20
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My arm is hurting, can someone lend me theirs?
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Location:
ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:24
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ii will be done!! of to stuart wilkins she goes
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:28
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videos when done please 
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Wollongong, NSW
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October 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:33
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picsorban
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:34
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| walkie wrote on Tue, 22 June 2004 22:33 |
picsorban
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Isn't that a country?
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:35
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give it a rest
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:37
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| Cool1 wrote on Tue, 22 June 2004 22:20 |
My arm is hurting, can someone lend me theirs?
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BAAAAAhahahaha!!! GOLD!!!
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:40
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*Even Shinny has looked at it, he has oversized turbo, has M800, just needs to get the bloody car going first! Shinny is a little nervous though after having seen the remains of a Skyline from anti lag... the turbo looked like it had been running on gravel. Shinny may try it once for fun though...*
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:45
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before thinking about anti lag, how about replying to peoples pms..
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I supported Toymods
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:53
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Draven thinks shinny has been reading too many of rex's posts.
Draven would also like to hear rex's enthusastic flaming of this topic.
</rex impersonation>
it depends a lot on what sort of turbo it is, and how rich you are. Judging by the specs, you're not poor. It's not a daily driver, so if you do blow it up it's not a huge hassle if it's off the road. If you can afford it, why not?
Personally I'd never go there, love my car too much to do that crap to it.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 12:58
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| SEXY 16 wrote on Tue, 22 June 2004 22:09 |
car has no cat and will be set up soon to run on av gas
engine is built strong by my engine builder
computer has launch control also
i recon if i have anti lag launch control and a bov it will sound like a wrc citroen on the limiter go like fuck and will confuse the fuck out most drivers on the road
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ooook..
so whay are you asking us?
why not ask your engine builder?
i recon (?) if you have anti-lag and a BOV, you will look and sound like a tool!!
so are you saying you don't currently have a BOV on your turbo 4AG?
and you do realise 'anti-lag' is mostly for gear changes? not for starting from stand still? (ie at the lights, you have time to spool the turbo)
you've sure confused the fuck out of me
aaanyway.... i want to see it working and i want to see the results. you've said you'll do it, so no backing out now
Cya, Stewart
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 13:34
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Go for it bro, it will be a fulisik setup. Use the intial D episode with the EVO-LAN as ur guide. He used miss-firing technic as an anti-lag system.
FULI.....SIK.... ur car will be so fast. Everyone will be envy of your setup....make sure u ricy it up a bit..aswell, got to have the looks to match the FULI_SIKO performance....
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 22:43
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What sort of driving do ya do sexy 16? If you only blow away ma and pa kettle in their commodore at the lights then it's a waste of money. If it's throttle response for point to point corners you want, then that's what anti lag does, that's why it's used in rally cars. For on the road driving though, you're mad, even my mates that only have tar babies for circuit racing don't bother with anti-lag 'cos it's too much trouble. Why don't ya put that money into a race car and really see where you're placed in the "talent pool", better still do it in the dirt and find out what life is.
Whooaaaa there, getting off my soapbox now!!!
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Baulko Hillo
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April 2004
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Tue, 22 June 2004 22:52
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| paddles wrote on Wed, 23 June 2004 08:43 |
better still do it in the dirt and find out what life is.
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Ahem.....
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Melb
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June 2004
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 02:23
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Probably the biggest problem with running an anti-lag system on your car is, while it may sound great, it will drown out the sound of your fully sic sound system. Also, when your turbo lets go you run the risk of spraying oil all over your neon light setup.
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Location:
Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 02:37
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Classique thinks rexy needs to impart his words of wisdom mere
Classique also thinks that shinny should anti lag Whitey and be HekTIC!
Classique also also thinks shane needs to stop playing with himself , and the arm hurt will go away * grin *
Classique lastly thinks Anti lag is major wank factor and money could be better saved for the fines youll have to pay for doing this to the Sictah!
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 03:02
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One thing also to ask is how good are your tyres?
Anti-lag for a 4wd rally car with ultra soft tyres (ie <50km, not thousands of km) 3 electronic active diffs & 80% of 600Nm of torque at idle for a 3-4secs 0-100km/h would be different to your rwd road car.
You'd spend most of your time wheelspining.
I've only ever seen anti-lag on 4wd cars for this reason.
Also have to see how the anti-lag would work with your launch control, I think they'd be fighting each other.
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North Brisbane
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October 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 03:33
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| SEXY 16 wrote on Tue, 22 June 2004 22:19 |
what u recon i wont do it or it cant be done?
i had a gt4 with anti lag before drove it for 7 months and sold it with the same turbo
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if you all ready owned one then what are you asking all the questions for?????
sounds like someone talking out his #%$@.
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 08:03
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the gt4 already had it fitted to it when it was bought of fensport in the uk i dont mantain them i just drive them i dont have the patients to work on them
as for doing it on the dirt i would rather not
rallying is more addictive than heroine and the cost is astronomical my brother rallys so i know the cost
40 grand to hire a car to do rally of nz
as for the anti lag issue when it is fitted and running you are all more than welcome to see for yourselves
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 08:13
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| SEXY 16 wrote on Wed, 23 June 2004 18:03 |
rallying is more addictive than heroine and the cost is astronomical my brother rallys so i know the cost
40 grand to hire a car to do rally of nz
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had you considered its so expensive to rally BECAUSE they run things like "anti-lag" and have to replace the turbos after each rally cos they dont last that long when they are experiencing combustion inside.
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 08:19
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the rally car my brother has is 10 events old and still has the same turbo as when it left the factory
the biggest cost is the elf fuel $7 a litre
entry fees
gearboxs
accomadation
the engine remains un touched suprisingly
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 08:50
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/me is using his left hand now.
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 12:16
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The description of the addiction bit is spot on but it's only expensive at national level and in a 4wd turbo. At club and state championship level it's not quite as scary moneywise. Seriously though the anti lag is going to destroy your car if you're using it constantly, i'd be spending the money elsewhere.
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 13:28
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do it, and show me that it dosent blow up after 6 months, then ill fit it to my car straight away.
oh and cool1, i have a cream that works really well on fricton burns
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 13:48
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| lang wrote on Wed, 23 June 2004 23:28 |
oh and cool1, i have a cream that works really well on fricton burns
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Its not the friction burn that hurts, its the lactic acid build up in my arm.
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 14:18
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| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 23 June 2004 23:48 |
| lang wrote on Wed, 23 June 2004 23:28 |
oh and cool1, i have a cream that works really well on fricton burns
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Its not the friction burn that hurts, its the lactic acid build up in my arm.
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according to that statement you DO have friction burn hahaha
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Wed, 23 June 2004 22:13
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I wish I was there to watch stuart wilkins response when he asks
hmm come to think of it.. i havent been out there for a while.. mind if a tag along when you go ?
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Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Thu, 24 June 2004 06:20
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elf fuel $7 a litre
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$5.50 here and I've got some good ol' ozzie stuff that'll blow elf away for the same price and less wear.
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entry fees
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the engine remains un touched suprisingly
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Club rallies- Av $350
gearboxes - nil
Accomadation for 8 -$300
a bit of fuel rubber and fun- Priceless
that's why we run a rolla
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Thu, 24 June 2004 08:07
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yeah come out if you want when she goes up there
do you buy your fuel from the guy in oakdale?
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February 2004
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Thu, 24 June 2004 09:59
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people just let him do it for gods sake!
his money, his turbo, his smile or his frown.
eg could go a little like this   
or it could go a little like this!   
who really cares. i'd love to see it!
im building a 4AGTE and using a bigport block first, and to be honest with you, i dont really give a SHIT if i blow it sky high, and im sure SEXY16 dosent give a shit either.
if we were going for reliability and a 200,000km life span, do you really think we'd be doing stuff like this?
i like smilies!
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Thu, 24 June 2004 21:19
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yeah come out if you want when she goes up there
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cool, send me a PM the day before you plan to go. I can show you where he is if you havent been before.
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Thu, 24 June 2004 23:52
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i know there hes at i have used thim before his readings are true not what u want it to say on the dyno
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Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Fri, 25 June 2004 00:20
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do you buy your fuel from the guy in oakdale?
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ELF Lubricates Oz- Tony Hatton. Yep But recently I've been using ET Racing fuels 102, supplied by on of my sponsors, Green Goanna in Granville (Angelo Dellis), can also pick this stuff up from him through steve at Premier Auto center.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Fri, 25 June 2004 00:25
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dont worry.. im sure plenty of people will be willing to pay money for all your turbo piping and crap when you blow the turbo up..
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Fri, 25 June 2004 04:34
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| Johnny wrote on Fri, 25 June 2004 10:20 |
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do you buy your fuel from the guy in oakdale?
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ELF Lubricates Oz- Tony Hatton. Yep But recently I've been using ET Racing fuels 102, supplied by on of my sponsors, Green Goanna in Granville (Angelo Dellis), can also pick this stuff up from him through steve at Premier Auto center.
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Location:
ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Fri, 25 June 2004 04:36
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you wanna go to his house the road up to it is fuckin tops and the ground surrounding would make a good rally school
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Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Fri, 25 June 2004 04:48
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you wanna go to his house the road up to it is fuckin tops and the ground surrounding would make a good rally school
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Whos? Tony's or Angelo?
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Fri, 25 June 2004 06:08
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tonys house at oakdale
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Brisbane
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October 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Fri, 25 June 2004 10:39
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instead of spending big on an anti-lag system, just get a decent limiter and flatten it at idle and launch like that and flat change.
anti lag is cool tho, the 9 sec lancer {one of them} can see 1.6 bar boost at idle with his 4G63
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Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: anti lag on 4agte
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Sat, 26 June 2004 02:25
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Nar, He usually get the stuff dropped off to My work.
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