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Location: Perth, W.A.
Registered: June 2004
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JZX100 Chaser
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Wed, 23 June 2004 03:02
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Hey guys im new to the forums and i was just gunna see what a few people's opions were seeing as im purchasing a new ride shortly. I currently drive an 86 4A-GE Twin Cam rolla and its definately time to upgrade, i have about $20k saved and my options are to either purchase an S14 Series 2 or a JZX100 chaser once they come down in price.
Do you guys reckon the JZX100 5spd's will come down to the mid 20's by early next year?
Anyone with huge experience with the VVTi 1JZ-GTE do you know what its top and bottom end limits are and also if the VVTi is a major problem when it comes to tuning, i was thinking of using a Wolf3D for a replacement ECU.
Im still trying to get as much info on the car as possible so anyone that has any info/specifications/reviews/roadtests/video's/etc. .. id really appreciate it.
Thanks guys.
Steve.
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Wed, 23 June 2004 03:25

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I don't think the jzx100 in a manual would be that price so soon considering how much manual soarers that are 91 model go for and there are a heap of them. jzx100 is 96 model onwards so pretty new. Definitely keep saving though, they are a great car and I would love one!
I actually got a lift in some old ladies jzx100 when I was in Japan! It was awesome. she didn't even know her car was anything special 
about the ECU, i was thinking either microtech LT12s or wolf 3D, but I think the lt12 is the go as it can run full sequential ignition however the wolf has tuning increments of 125 rpm as opposed to the lt12s of 500rpm.
for a manual chaser, i would just get a plug and play power FC or a wolf 3d if they have them by then.
later
chris
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Wed, 23 June 2004 04:22

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Haltech's (E6X) are supposed to be good at driving VVTi and a well respected ECU - and in the same price range as Microtech & Wolf.
Yeh, given the rarity of manual Chasers (and Soarers), I think you'd be lucky to get a manual at that price. But don't let that put you off - you could convert it later (though that would put the price towards a factory manual) or trick-up the autobox.
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Wed, 23 June 2004 04:29

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oh yeah, forgot about the vvti 
I thought only the very top range ECU's like Motecs can run the vvti properly? I don't think there is a power FC for the jzx100 either.
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Wed, 23 June 2004 06:37

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I've just forgotten their name - but Apexi's sister company that re-jiggs FC's for them makes a Power FC for the JZX100 automatic! I don't know how you'd order it from Japan, but it does exist. I think this topic has been covered before by those more knowledgable - have you tried a search?
Justin
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: August 2003
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Wed, 23 June 2004 07:22

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JZX100? I seen auto ones for about 40G...
And S14a's havent seen them often at all under 20, you could get series one for about 15 or just over I think?
Does anyone here own a JZX100 anyways???
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Wed, 23 June 2004 07:25

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With auto JZX90s going for as little as $13K - I would've thought a 100 would be somewhere around $20K. But, no, I've never seen one advertised.
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Location: Perth, W.A.
Registered: June 2004
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Wed, 23 June 2004 07:45

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Hey guy, ive done some searchs but havent really found any info on ECU options, i do know that like the 1JZ automatic soarer the ECU handles the automatic transmission so a replacement ECU would probably cause problems with the auto box not shifting, a big nightmare i can see. Id definately want to go for the manual.
The average price of them now is around $32-$40k for a JZX100 manual, landed and complied. JZX90's the auto's are around $15000 whereas manuals usually attract $20000 or so. S14A's (1997 onwards)however are also around $20000.
Seeing as JZX100 manual chasers were released in 1996 youd think for an 8 year old car theyd be a lot cheaper than $35000, in the Nissan range a 1996 R33 4 door GTS-t you can get for only around $20000.
Oh well will just have 2 wait and see what happens i spose. Ive got a video of a chaser doin a fly past sounds angry as all hell but i cant workout whether its still got its 1JZ-GTE VVTi under the bonnet or if a conversion such as a 2JZ or 1.5JZ has been done, if any1 wants 2 take a look i can send it 2 them cos i cant remember where i downloaded it from
Cheers.
Steve.
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2002
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Location: Perth, W.A.
Registered: June 2004
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Fri, 25 June 2004 01:23

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Ive been thinking about maybe importing an auto then once i have enough cash swapping the box for a 5spd or 6spd Getrag and also ECU change.
Does anyone know what 5spd the JZX100 manuals come with? I dont know if its the same R15 that the JZA70's came with or different, apparently some people say that the 5spds are really strong and some say they are weak, if the 5spd that comes with the JZX100 is a strong box then i might as well keep saving, however if it isnt strong i may as well just go for the auto and switch to a stronger box.
Any help would be appreciated, cheers!
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Fri, 25 June 2004 02:39

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well from all reports the autos aren't very strong. I am not sure about the jzx100 manual box being the same though?
You can get the autos built up to make them stonger and shift quicker which is good for drag racing. If you want to go around corners and such, I would wait for a manual as it would also be much easier for ECU choices.
Also, do a search on here and performanceforums for the KDOG controller. It is a device for some autos that runs the auto so you can get a normal ECU. And you also change gears with a button
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Location: Gold Coast
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sat, 26 June 2004 00:14

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id take a jzx100 or even a jzx90 over a s14 any day.. nice twin turbo 6 engine vs the 4 cyl 2 litre.. id definately like the torque that the 1jz makes
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Location: Perth, W.A.
Registered: June 2004
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sat, 26 June 2004 03:06

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wastegate wrote on Sat, 26 June 2004 09:57 |
Celia-Sue wrote on Wed, 23 June 2004 17:55 | The AP Engineering Power FC WILL work with the JZX100 auto - possibly even allow changes to shift points. PlugNplay - gotta be the way to go. Only problem would be where to get it.
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Half right.
The PowerFC IS avalible for the JZX100 but only the PRO SPEC (DRAG) and it is only for the manual, it WILL NOT control the Auto.
Source: http://www.ap-engineering.co.jp/top/flamepage.htm
You can order them though Greenline.jp
The manual in the JZX100 is still the same ol R154.
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Thanks dude will look in 2 it.
Any thoughs on the R154? Some say its a strong box others reckon that the 5spd JZX100 is weak? Not everyone can be right i spose but whats do you guys reckon? As i said before if its a weak box i'll save my dollars and get a JZX100 auto, and get a new aftermarket ECU and 6 speed getrag or something for it but if the 5 speed is strong then i wont.
Thanks for all the help.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sat, 26 June 2004 11:53

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the r154 IS a strong box.. very proven.. have one in my car.. not the NICEST shift but its not bad either
least i know it wont break!.
i love mine
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sat, 26 June 2004 12:08

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How heavy is the JZX100?
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sun, 27 June 2004 03:41

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from what I have read just under 1500kg. pretty similar to the jzx90 which is supposed to be 1450kg.
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: August 2003
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sun, 27 June 2004 16:19

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Hmmm, comparison of an S14 and a JZX??
Hm depending what u want the car for..
If u r about to follow the trend, learning to drift in a JZX would be a task me thinks....
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: November 2003
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: July 2002
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sun, 27 June 2004 23:40

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or a lancer(not evo)... then you have HEAPS of money for a FULLY SIK bodykit and chromies!!!!!!!
....... I'm sorry, i just woke up...
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Location: Perth, W.A.
Registered: June 2004
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sat, 24 July 2004 16:07

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Hey guys, taken me a while to get back on the boards, sorry 2 drag up an old topic.
Ive been seeing a few manuals go for 1.1-1.3 million yen lately FOB, so they have come down in price a fair bit. Im probably just gunna keep saving for a manual, ive seen a couple of supra's with R154's crankin out 350rwkw which is good indication of the strength of the box. SPEED doesnt seem to like them though, bit weird.
Anyways in W.A. there is an auto for sale for $27000 but thats at a dealership, so it would seem manuals could be had around that same price if they were privately imported.
From what i can gather, compliancing + tyre's + freight and all the other stuff involved gettin the car over here and legal to drive on the roads would set you back around $10000.
Just a bit more info for other people that are in the same, aaah, boat as me.
Hopefully mid next year i should have one on the road!
Cheers for the help guys.
Steve.
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Location: Perth
Registered: July 2004
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sun, 01 August 2004 03:42

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Hey steve - hows dick going over east 
Anyway I have a auto jzx90 here in wa wiht a few things done to it.
I am having a shift kit installed into the auto to make it more user friendly 
There are a few manual jzx100's in now but you are looking at about 35k for a stock one.
Have fun searching
Matt
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Location: Perth, W.A.
Registered: June 2004
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Re: JZX100 Chaser
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Sun, 01 August 2004 05:18
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Hey matt, yeah dick is goin good, he is comin back 2 W.A. very soon so he should be out cruisin 
Have u seen the auto JZX100 @ Cannington Autowholesale? He is askin $28k i think for it, its a mint car but u can smell it was an ex smokers. He said that he can do compliancing and what not and gave me a rough quote of $8000 including, compliancing and new tyre's. From what i can gather in the japanese auctions manual JZX100's grade 4 are going from around 1.1-1.3 million yen on average so youd be looking at around $26-$28k right now to get one in Australia landed and complied.
Im going to wait a bit longer so the prices can come down cos from what i can gather the R154a 5 speed box is good for around 500rwhp so that'll do me for a long time.
Anyways dude, will catch u round.
Steve.
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