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cressida/supra hybrid?
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Sun, 27 June 2004 11:47
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hey guys, i own a mx83 cressida, but the auto (and lack of turbo) kinda dulls the experience. i was wondering how closely related the supra/cressida platforms were, and if i used a 7mgte manual halfcut from an ma71 supra would it contain everything needed to perform the conversion, ie would crossmembers and the pedal box, etc, more or less bolt in. also, what is a fair price for a decent 7mgte half cut? thanks in advance
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Sun, 27 June 2004 12:02
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pretty straightforward swap.
Manual cuts arent cheap as they come with the super beefy r154 box...expect to pay around 3500.
Sump arrangement is what will kill you, you need a front sump arrangement off an mx83 cressida.
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Sun, 27 June 2004 12:13
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thanks, thats what i was hoping to hear. will the sump off the na sump already in the cressi be sufficient on the turbo engine? also, will supra brakes bolt on as well, i dont wanna bend the beast with all this extra power... and will a mechanical lsd meant for a supra work in the cressida lsd? sorry for all the questions, i just wanna know what im up for
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Sun, 27 June 2004 12:20
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mechanical lsd will go straight into the cressida centre yes.
Brakes from memory not a bolt on job..but if you search these forums for the mx83 strut/ brake upgrade it will give you info on how to upgrade your rotors to 298mmx28mm falcon discs with 4 piston skyline calipers. Piece of piss as it all bolts on!
Sump will be sufficient, but you will need an oil cooler if the cressida doesnt already have one? You would be good to have a tri-core radiator for extra cooling.
Im not 100% sure the sump oil pickup is the same on the cressida as the supra..you will need someone else to tell you.
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Sun, 27 June 2004 12:30
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sounds good mate, will do search on that one. is it possible to modify the oil pick up point? ive never been that deep inside the motor before, so my knowledge is a little thin. thanks again
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Sun, 27 June 2004 12:48
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yeah you can use the sump pickup from the cressida from my knowledge!
Where in aus are you?
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Melbourne
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Sun, 27 June 2004 15:03
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Sump you can use off the 7m-ge the 7m-gte has a different pick-up tho so the supplyed one wil likely need to be modifyed.
swap engine mounts off the 7m-ge onto the 7m-gte DONE
all thats left is wiring and intercooler!
IMHO best bang for buck value if doing a head gasket once properly dosent make you widdle your pants like most of the girls on here / or you read too much zoom / hot4's 
Allan
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Sun, 27 June 2004 15:16
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yep all goes together pretty easy just getting the manual set up in the cressi can be a little pain though if you do a search there is a parts list on what you need... not to dull your excitement ova the 7M but have you conciddered the 1JZ conversion??? they go in nicly
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Mon, 28 June 2004 00:38
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If you can get your hands on a JZX81 front cut (1JZ-GTE) that will probably be easier than a 7M-GTE conversion since it all bolts in, plus you don't have to worry about the infamous 7M headgasket issues!
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Mon, 28 June 2004 01:32
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finding a jzx81 half cut is not an easy task these days though.
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Mon, 28 June 2004 01:48
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speak to asian auto spares in brisbane..they have them there fairly regularly from the around 2500 mark.
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Mon, 28 June 2004 03:01
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i need an engine upgrade in the coming months when i have money! how much do you reckon it'll cost to get a half-cut to tas? i thought it might be cheaper to go to the mainland on the boat and take my car to an auto shop and they would probly give me a discount if they keep the old engine? any ideas fella's?
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Mon, 28 June 2004 05:18
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im from the hunter valley in nsw, im driving around a red prelude at the moment, the cressie is my old mans, and it looks like im gonna have to find one myself instead of buy his.. oh well, thems the brakes. the main reason for the swap is for drifting,so a manual is a prerequisite, thats why i thought id stick with the 7mgte as i thought they may be easier to get than a manual jzx81 half cut, but im new to toyotas, so im not really sure if im on the right track, thanks guys
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Mon, 28 June 2004 05:20
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mx83 isnt the best car for drifting imo...r u sure thats what you really want?
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Mon, 28 June 2004 05:26
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its just to be different mainly, i was gonna buy a silvia but thers millions of teh bloody things. i just like to cause my self problems.....
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Mon, 28 June 2004 10:41
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There are a few Cressida's with 1JZ's for sale at the moment, might be cheaper in the long run to buy one already built and save yourself the trouble (as you said you were pretty new to toyotas) of finding and fitting everything you need.
As for drifting - there are a few of the guys on the Jap and US cressida forums that are into drifting their MKII's and Chasers/Cressida's etc, so yes, it can be done..
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Tue, 29 June 2004 17:34
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they are actually a good car to drift in can get em sidways easy and keep em there also quite predictable they have a great wheel base for it....depends what kinda drift you do though, a screechy around a corner is not drift...  you'll need suspention mods.... and i dont like the look of this already your using, TURBO MANUAL CONVERSION and CHEAP in the same sentance  ....dont dreem it will cost you more than your think 
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Wed, 30 June 2004 12:45
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| Southo wrote on Mon, 28 June 2004 20:41 |
might be cheaper in the long run to buy one already built
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Unless its been reved to 10,000+ RPM, basicly any car with a different engine or turbo will of had a hard life from the previous owner geting there moneys worth out of it
Allan
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Wed, 30 June 2004 13:16
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I think that's a bit misleading - you mean to say that Japaneze people are not interested in driving their turbocharged cars fast?
Come off it...
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Wed, 30 June 2004 15:07
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i've revved mine to 11 so freakn what!!! 1J's are bloody BEASTS!!!!! i drive my car hard and can almost put money on it seeing another 100k before i pull her apart and put stuff in the things 
its pretty much standard if you buy a turbo motor its had a harder life than JUST ABOUT any NA would ever come close too, and if someone buys it to stick in their low powered local its not cause they want to drive it nicley trust me...big deal it breaks....pull tha bitch apart and do it up!!! and if you dont want to rebuild it get another secondhand low K's block 1000 bucks and your done!!! how many real high performance cars dont break shit???
how can you think that someone sticking a freakn 1JZ twinTurbo in a cressida hasnt built it to give it some stick look at the pics in the forsale section on my car... thats what i built it for! though i wasnt selling my car as a low k's give it to your mum to drive cressi i was selling it as a modded car!
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Wed, 30 June 2004 17:39
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| 7M-Brisbane wrote on Wed, 30 June 2004 23:16 |
I think that's a bit misleading - you mean to say that Japaneze people are not interested in driving their turbocharged cars fast?
Come off it...
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Oi! dickwad! read it 
| Allan wrote on Wed, 30 June 2004 22:45 |
basicly any car with a different engine or turbo will of had a hard life from the previous owner geting there moneys worth out of it
Allan
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Hard life is not only engine but brakes and suspension too
thus an Ex grandpa MX83 is less likly to need major work besides the engine then one that has a tits thrashed and drifted off it 
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Re: cressida/supra hybrid?
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Thu, 01 July 2004 12:21
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Hard life is not only engine but brakes and suspension too
thus an Ex grandpa MX83 is less likly to need major work besides the engine then one that has a tits thrashed and drifted off it
ok valid i'll give you that 
but ... 
some ppl do up their brakes and suspention to cope as well, and if not these parts are also changable
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