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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2004
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Engine blew!
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Sun, 27 June 2004 13:36
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ST162 decided to brake down this evening. I'm on the way to Sorrento for the week, and past Frankston, around Dromana, the car just lost it, wouldn't go. Thought it could be the hill (lol yeah right) so I went down a gear (to 4th). Stalled it, engine steamed like hell. Pulled over, called a local tower, $250 and 5 hours later my car is sitting at the mechanic and I'm here typing this. Not happy jan. Furious that
a) i didn't notice the temperature gauge before.
b) didn't check the oil at the servo on the way.
c) i'm without the car for the week
d) my holiday is on hold
e) i'm probably going to have to replace the engine, unless it was just a leak in the radiator or something. I'm not too mechanical so I don't know anyway.
At the servo on the way home (in the tow truck) we filled the radiator back up (empty obviously) tried to start it up again (see what would happen) and some shit started spurting everywhere. Head gasket? I don't know. Either way some big dollars are likely to be spent in the next fortnight. Holidays off to a great start boys.
that's the car by the way, I've only had it for a month!
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Sun, 27 June 2004 13:52

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A bit ambiguious, but any estimates as to how much an engine replacement costs? (the same one I imagine)
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine blew!
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Sun, 27 June 2004 14:54

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Yep new engine time head would be fucked and bet $10 theres a few grab marks in the bores if you keept on driven till it stoped
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Location: Elwood, Melb
Registered: August 2003
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Re: Engine blew!
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Sun, 27 June 2004 15:33

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Dude, all i can say is, YOU POOR BASTARD, you just bought the damn thing didn't you.
As for a new engine you'll be lookin around $500-$800 or you can be hella crazy and get a 3sgte but they cost heaps more. Anyway just a thought.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Sun, 27 June 2004 23:21

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Yeah man I'm spewin. It's down at the mechanic now, I got a call he reckons the heads'd be gone for sure. But I need to give him the keys before he can look at it lol.
Really 500-800? And roughly how much for labour etc.?
Hmm 3sgte, is that the engine from the GT4?
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Engine blew!
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Mon, 28 June 2004 01:35

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Hey sorry to hear your engine went patrick Did you ever get the compression/t-kay test done 'cause you were worried about white smoke if I remember correctly!
3S-GTE is from the GT4 or you can get them from MR2 turbos as well...
Sounds like your engine is fubar btw - I would definitely go for the 'replacing' option, see if you can get your hands on a 2nd gen 3S-GE from an MR2, the price will nearly be the same as a 3S-GE from an ST162 - all you have to do is put your current intake manifold on the new engine and wire it all up.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: Engine blew!
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Mon, 28 June 2004 02:56

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wanna see my 7m bores from the previous owner driving it till it almost stopped?
My sisters eunos...pfft women! Drove until it stopped..needed a hone, both heads straightened, plug leads were welded into the head...$2700 later...it runs ok, and rattles like a bastard when cold...and the bottom end is suspect imo.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Sunshine Coast
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Mon, 28 June 2004 12:01

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thats a real shame man..exact same thing happened to me..except i only ownerd the car 2 and a half weeks!!..u should deffinatly get a new engine..u have no idea how EFFFFFED it is dealing with all this shit of reconditionang and shit..u can get a jap spec engine with 60 000 k's on it for $800(thats what i was quoted) but u should look around and u will probly get it cheaper..im not to sure on labour costs i wouls imagine a few hundred
good luck man that celica is clean
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Location: Melb, Victoria
Registered: April 2004
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Location: Melb, Victoria
Registered: April 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Mon, 28 June 2004 13:02

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dude thats really bad luck.i bet u hate celica's now...
but this is a perfect opportunity to do a conversion if ur intersted and have the "spare" cash.
p.s thats reminds me, i hav to top up my oil tomorrow mornin
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Location: Brissy QLD
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Mon, 28 June 2004 17:11

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yeah same as everyone else, bad luck dude, a 3sge wouldn't cost that much, but find out whats wrong with this one first, at current i'm looking into a 3sge conversion from a 5sfe, but i'm looking at the series 3, its a more refined engine runs roughly about 132Kw. the half cut that i need here will cost me $1500, you may just need the series 3 engine and loom for you car, its just something that you may look into as an option if you choose to change the engine.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth, WA
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Engine blew!
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Mon, 28 June 2004 18:03

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hey mate,
i know exactly how you feel. If i was over east id volunteer my help. but sadly im in WA
anyway good luck with the new engine and get a quote and post it on here before you do anything. last thing you want is to get ripped off after all this has happened.
good luck
-ian
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: May 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Tue, 29 June 2004 09:30

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sorry yo hear what happened man, im guessing u will take more care of your new engine when it goes in. just a quote from the first post after u started a tread showing ur new car;
"congratulations Patrick
thats looks a really nice car.
welcome to the 162 club
look after it."
So this time remember, "look after it". Safe driving, and hope this lesson doesent get to costly for you.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Thu, 01 July 2004 08:08

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Thanks for your help fellas.
Engine was replaced yesterday. I ended up paying around $1500 for a replacement engine, installed and everything. I was away on holiday for most of the week so I couldn't really check anything while my car was down in Melbourne getting fixed.
It's the same Celica engine, imported from Japan. I hear it's running really smoothly, a lot better than the last engine I had (which didn't have much left in it). It's got a one year warranty and is gaurenteed to be between 60-90,000 k's old. That part staggered me. Anyway, I hear that the Japanese versions have different heads/other parts in them that have advantages over the ones in Australia, or does that sound like bullshit to you guys?
Either way my car is back and I'm not that fussed. Just my wallet.
What do you think.
Patrick
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Location: South Australia
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Engine blew!
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Thu, 01 July 2004 14:12

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Yeah, I think the jap-spec runs a different compression ratio (closer to 10.0:1 as opposed to aus 9.0:1)...that is most likely due to different head design. Aside from that, it has the jap-spec ECU and no EGR. You might want to run it on a diet of premium unleaded though (95 RON at least, pref. 98 octane) check for pinging!
Most important check your timing! They (whoever installed it) may have retarded the timing a bit from standard settings to make up for crappy fuel we have in aus (91 octane is your standard fare)
That would = bad for powah.
Use 98 octane and get standard jap timing and you will get the full benefit of the jdm engine.
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Location: Brissy QLD
Registered: March 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Thu, 01 July 2004 22:55

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well Patrick, i'm glad to here that you got everything sorted out, and i hope you don't have any more problems with the new engine, best of luck buddy.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Engine blew!
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Fri, 02 July 2004 02:18
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Engine's been replaced. Turns out it was the radiator that caused it. New radiator installed, new starter motor, new clutch while I'm at it.
Yipee.
She's running well now anyway.
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