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Tue, 29 June 2004 01:46
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hey i was just wondering if anyone out there knows much about the 4age blue top, or maybe even owns one i can get a good bargain on one and was just wondering if it was worth the conversion into my ae82 rolla? just the few questions i would like answered are
1. what are the performance specs of the 4age blue top, 0-100times etc.
2. is it worth the hassle of a conversion will i see much of and improvement from the stocko 4ac engine?
3. and if anyone has a blue top in thier ae82 what kind of cars do u beat or keep with? would i beat a vl or vn commodore or will i not?
thanks for ur help to who replies. 
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I supported Toymods
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fairfield NSW
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January 2003
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Tue, 29 June 2004 04:47
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isnt blue top for rwd? your ae82 is fwd..
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Tue, 29 June 2004 04:50
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oh im not to sure maybe ur right
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January 2004
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Re: blue top question
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Tue, 29 June 2004 07:11
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does any1 else know more about the engine if it is fwd or rwd?? or even any1 who could answer my other questions? 
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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August 2002
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Tue, 29 June 2004 07:13
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blue top came locally as a FWD engine
blue top in japan came as both
japanese blue tops put out more power
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Sydney
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April 2004
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January 2004
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Re: blue top question
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Wed, 30 June 2004 07:00
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ok sounds good thanks for ya help man
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Brisbane
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August 2003
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Wed, 30 June 2004 09:02
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For the cheapest, easiest conversion, install the redtop out of the ae92. This has been covered many times before, just do a search.
Better yet, sell your current car and buy an ae82 twincam. You'll waste a lot of time and money putting a bluetop in your ae82, especially since the ae82 twinky's already have this engine. Plus they have better stuff, eg. rear disc brakes, better interior, etc.
You can pick one up for around $3000 these days.
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Sunshine Coast
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January 2004
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Re: blue top question
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Wed, 30 June 2004 10:30
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yeh i see your point of view but as i said im gettin a good bargain with this blue top so yeh ill just stick with it. just need some info on how itll be in my rolla.
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January 2004
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Wed, 30 June 2004 11:08
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Getting off the line is important in a blue top ae82. A vn or vl can make you look very silly if you miss the start..you dont have the power to recover. The commodores have a lot more power, but I'd say youd keep with a vl..but vn might get you. All depends on the condition of your engine and the comodore your dueling. I've beaten vns in my twin cam but others have had the edge.
The 4age will be a more exciting engine to drive, with heaps more revs , blipping on d/shifts etc. The motors have a prety flat torque curve but the way the rev out is quite nice  , plus you'll have better fuel economy and hopefully won't wrap it around a pole as do a lot of commodore drivers (moderately powered RWD)  
Just remember ae82s are pretty old now so the safety of the car in a crash is not as good as a newish car, I try and keep this in the back of my mind when I'm giving it a bit.
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Menai area of Sydney
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June 2003
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Wed, 30 June 2004 11:12
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The blue top is the 86kw TVIS engine out of the Twincam.
We've done the conversion in an AE82 from a 4AC and it's a totally different car. Very tractable, plenty of power, feels good on the road. Bought a Twincam wreck and swapped brakes, front swaybar etc etc. Suggest you upgrade the brakes if you do the engine swap. You'll also need the EFI fuel tank and fuel line.
Having done the conversion though, apart from the satisfaction of doing it youself, the price of Twinkies has come down a lot and the advice is right - you might be better to buy one rather than do an engine swap. If you get one with a blown engine it'll be cheap and you can use your engine.
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Location:
Sunshine Coast
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January 2004
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Re: blue top question
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Fri, 09 July 2004 03:03
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ok thanks for yas help!! any1 else know anymore?? also wat are the laws on a conversion like this do i need engineers cert or anything like that?
cheers
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