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ma61 rear into a ta23
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Thu, 01 July 2004 08:26
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how much work and what sort of modifications would I need to fit a ma61 rear (lsd, axel & brakes) into a TA23??
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Thu, 01 July 2004 09:18
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A hell of a lot more than it's worth. An MA61 is IRS, so you'd have to modify a shiteload. You'd be better to find an F-series live-axle diff from a Crown(?) or something, and then fit an MA61 LSD centre to it.
As for the specifics of a live-axle F-series diff, a search would find it fairly easily.
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Thu, 01 July 2004 09:22
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Yeah im here to piss off my sale..but anyway
Talk to COOL1 on these forums...id put a hilux live axle diff in it. Strong as all hell...MANY ratios available also.
Blake
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Terrigal
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Thu, 01 July 2004 11:21
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I put a corona MKII live axle rear end in my RA28, these share the same centres as MA61's so you can use the LSD from one of these.
IRS would be unreal but a huge job and with something like that no corners can be cut.
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Thu, 01 July 2004 23:32
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What he said; an F series live axle (eg Corona MkII) is the way to go if you want a stronger diff. A Hilux diff is another option but it's heavier, it has the wrong stud pattern, and it's almost certainly overkill for your application.
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Thu, 01 July 2004 23:43
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Everytime you dismember a Corona Mk2, God kills a kitten.
Use a Crown MS112 diff. F series, same width, bigger axles and bearings, disc brakes and common as dirt.
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Fri, 02 July 2004 00:16
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There are plenty of already-dismembered MkII's out there willing to donate diffs! The big advantage with the MkII diff is it has the correct 4x4.5" stud pattern for a Celica, while the Crown diff will have a 5-stud pattern.
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Fri, 02 July 2004 00:22
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MS112 diff is more like 1440mm wide, the MKII is 1410 or so? Thats my understanding anyway.
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Fri, 02 July 2004 01:25
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| gianttomato wrote on Fri, 02 July 2004 07:43 |
Everytime you dismember a Corona Mk2, God kills a kitten.
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Hehehehehehe! RA28 is 1365mm from drum to drum, RN25/27 Hilux is 1370mm drum to drum, all the live axle F series diffs are larger than that.
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Fri, 02 July 2004 01:46
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gianttomato is da' man! you make much funny, ha ha ha  i have a corona mark 2 diff, but you's can't have it. if you want one, i can get one from the wreckers here in tassie, there's like three last time i checked.
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VIC, Sth Frankston.
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July 2003
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Fri, 02 July 2004 02:28
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If you were going to install IRS on the ta23, i wouldnt bother with the suspension setup the ma61 has. I'd rather go with something much more adjustable. Semi trailing arms can be a pain.
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Madrid - Spain
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August 2002
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Fri, 02 July 2004 03:27
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Agreed, the MA61 setup is OK for a standard road car, but is too wide for an early celica and would require heaps of work to get it in. Better to go for a custom job and use silvia gear. Fabricate a cradle, make it structural and hang some fabricated upper and lower wishbones off it.
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Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Fri, 02 July 2004 08:13
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| joecoolmk2 wrote on Fri, 02 July 2004 11:46 |
gianttomato is da' man! you make much funny, ha ha ha i have a corona mark 2 diff, but you's can't have it. if you want one, i can get one from the wreckers here in tassie, there's like three last time i checked.
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whats the bet GT is now planning a road trip to tassie? 
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Fri, 02 July 2004 11:49
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ok.... so how much and where can I get either a hilux, crown or corona LSD diff with disk brakes?
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Re: ma61 rear into a ta23
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Sat, 03 July 2004 13:37
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If you really must have disc brakes, only the Crown diff comes with them from the factory, although the others can be converted to disc with a bit of work (search if you want details). As for where and how much, pick up the phone and ask your local wrecking yards!
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