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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Mon, 11 October 2004 13:03
 
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Its easy as dude. Just pull old 4 speed out and slot 5 speed in.
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Depending on what model it came from the shifter could be in a different location. That is the 5 speed from the '55 is more foward (is that back??) then the '70. Can't be stuffed doing a search (have a look in the tech section). But from what i understand the shifter will still poke up through the hole in transmission tunnel.
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 12 October 2004 23:30
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Yup, the shifter seems to be in the same possition, well kinda. might need to cut the hole to one side I think. What else is worth taking out of the ke70 to put on my ke55 coupe? I have a complete ke70 body with good straight panels and doors ready to hock off..... Anyone in need?
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Wed, 13 October 2004 02:27
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| cwhelan wrote on Wed, 13 October 2004 09:30 |
Yup, the shifter seems to be in the same possition, well kinda. might need to cut the hole to one side I think. What else is worth taking out of the ke70 to put on my ke55 coupe? I have a complete ke70 body with good straight panels and doors ready to hock off..... Anyone in need?
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got a spare alternator and voltage regulator?
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Wed, 13 October 2004 02:46
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I do, your welcome to take it for a $1000....
Just kiddin. have you a spare set of extractors or cam?
I'll swap you, or $50 the the bits...
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Fri, 15 October 2004 06:41
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Heard about Darren's absolutely awesome KE35 (you're famous, yay), did a search, and stumbled on this thread 
My toy:
Body
1975 Toyota Corolla KE35 CS
Engine
AE92 100kW small port 4AGE (1600 Twincam)
Unifilter pod
Stock RWD exhaust manifold primaries with custom 2" mandrel secondaries
2.25" mandrel exhaust with high flow cat, dog-leg straight through muffler and spiral resonator (all Redback)
Driveline
4.11 RA28 diff with a rather stuffed center, and actively looking for a 4.3 TRD LSD (anyone know where I can get one?)
AE86 T50 5 speed manual
T3 short shift kit arriving end of year (yay)
TA22 Clutch master cylinder
AE86 Clutch slave cylinder
Brakes
JB1762 15/16 Mitsubishi Pajero Brake booster
KCF Rallysport Hydraulic handbrake
Front Brakes
Peugeot 604 270mm slotted vented discs (DBA272S)
Mazda RX7 RaceBrakes RB74 pads (416)
Toyota Landcruiser 4-piston calipers
Rear Brakes
Bluebird TRX 280mm solid discs
Front Suspension
Mitsubishi Scorpion lower control arms
Corona RT132 struts, shortened 40mm
Custom height-adjustable coilover setup
Koni Sport adjustable shocks
KMac camber/caster adjustable strut tops
Selby's twin swaybar setup
Custom strut brace
T3 neg camber RCA's arriving end of year (yay)
All polyurethane bushes
Rear Suspension
KYB gas shocks
Extra 8mm leaf
Whiteline swaybar
All polyurethane bushes
Footwork
14x6 Hotwires, Firestone Firehawk SZ50 185/60R14 tyres (street)
14x6 Hotwires, Hankook semi-slick 185/60R14 tyres (track)
Exterior
Custom Streeter front spoiler
Cut out and meshed grille
Interior
Momo Race steering wheel
OBX Daytona fixed back seats
VDO oil pressure, temperature, voltmeter gauges
Autometer tachometer
Terratrip 202 Plus rally computer
Custom map light
6-point CDS rollcage going in next week (woo hoo!)
Figures
69hp @ 5740RPM
383Nm @ 3300RPM
[Updated on: Fri, 15 October 2004 06:44]
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Fri, 15 October 2004 08:36
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Instead of posting a new thread, thought I would add this here:
Anyone know of any decent sites with info on KE30's, I have searched and only really found Johnys site. Which was helpful.
Anyone got any good pics or own one?
Anyone know if any AE86 parts are interchangable, like diff, brakes etc?
I just bought one for my GF, 2dr sedan resprayed silver pearl with a few mods but still a bit granny spec (venetians, side strips etc)
I'll be sure to post some pics up after Ive made a few changes, and im looking for ideas.
Cheers, Sean.
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Carlingford, Sydney
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Fri, 15 October 2004 12:53
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go to my site if u wanna see my gay ass rolla
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Adelaide, Semaphore
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Tue, 19 October 2004 02:45
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Update....
Have gut the 5 speed gear box in last night, was easier than I thought it would be... Does anyone have any upgrade bits for the 4k engine lying around from an unfinished project? ie: cam,
clutch, lightened flywheel, 3k head, twin valve springs etc...
Anything would be appreciated...
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 19 October 2004 10:09
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I just chucked some up a post in the members section with some pics of my GF's KE30.
It already has a 5 spd in there, quite nice ratios, would hate to have one without it!
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Laverton, Vic
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July 2003
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 19 October 2004 10:21
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1978 KE35 hardtop
Engine: 2tg, Twin solex.
Driveline: T50 race built 5 speed, TA22 rear end.
Suspension: Lowered Leafs on the rear, and chopped front coils.
Wheels: 13"x6" Cheviot's with Yokohama 352's.
Interior: SaaS Racing Seat, 13" SaaS steering wheel, Rev Gauge, Oil pressure gauge, and temp gauge.
Body: Standard Buttercup yellow, and Bonnet Pins.
Other Mods: Battery relocated to the boot, and race kill switch installed also.
Main use for car is Track racing, but get's used for dirt every now and then. Oh yeah I drive it on the road sometimes.
[Updated on: Tue, 19 October 2004 10:26]
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Mon, 25 October 2004 18:28
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My ke25 finely turned up on Sunday. Now all i have to do is pull me finger out and start working on it 
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 26 October 2004 04:36
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finaly turned up from where?
What work are you planning for the lil beast? Post a pic for us if you can...
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 26 October 2004 14:50
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I bought from a wrecker out at Toowoomba when the jamboree was on. And was able to have it left at my brother-in-laws folk place for a couple of weeks till a mate was able to trailer it up.
But hows this for ya. It was sitting at the wreckers for god know me mate went around to pick it up he popped the bonnet had a look grabbed some fuel and a battery, jumped behind the wheel and drove the car to me brother-in-laws place! Just a little cough and a fart.
At moment it needs rust to be cut out etc. The body mods will be limited to a bob-tail (still unsure about that), a suspension drop (not too sure how much) and rolling on either 14" or 15" rims of some type. The prefence being Minilites.
I'll be pulling the 3k and swapping in a 2T-G twin carb thats been bored and stroked. The plan is to stroke it with a 4Y crank but i'm still thinking of how far to bore it. But a 2.1 2T-G does seem to roll of the tongue easier then 1.6 2T-G.
Narrowed Hi-lux diff
Front struts either Corona, Celica or later K-series Corolla.
Brakes ???? Still sifting through the info
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 26 October 2004 15:00
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When i can i'll get photos.
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Wed, 27 October 2004 10:11
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by the way.................anyone know what brake upgrade will fit under 13x7's? i know the pug/hilux combo needs 14's. but i dont want to buy new mags 
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Wed, 27 October 2004 22:30
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Its great to see a common interest here with the 2tg conversion.. I shall be starting mine after the 15th Nov, I get a few days off to make a start on it then... I will be going 2tgeu though, I think EFI is the way to go. You are all aware I will be doing the Tech article when the project starts?
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Fri, 29 October 2004 17:31
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| muaythaiman wrote on Wed, 27 October 2004 20:11 |
by the way.................anyone know what brake upgrade will fit under 13x7's? i know the pug/hilux combo needs 14's. but i dont want to buy new mags
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KE70 front discs will fit but you will also have to use the caliper that come with this discs because they wider then use the KE30 backing plate to mount the calipers to.
Don't quote me on this but i think T-18 brakes are the same as well so you could even use them.
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sat, 30 October 2004 01:00
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How about AE86? (aus spec solid type)
I've got a pair of these sitting in the shed, and a KE30 with disapointing brakes.
What needs to be done to get them to fit?
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sat, 30 October 2004 02:05
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cheers towe. i reckon i might look into the t18 option. i dont have ae brakes just lying around, if i did that would be good, but an 18 is closer to the era, with my ke being an 81 model, so it may be easier to fit them. i'll let you know what i find out
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Banned user
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sydney
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May 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 02 November 2004 01:02
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KE Rolla Cruise
12th of December
Meet:Homebush Bay Parking p6
Time:10am For a 10.30 leave
Destination:Cordeaux Dam
Cost :$5 BBQ on the Day
Contact :0405640472 or 0421791358
Or Email :Rolla23q@hotmail.com
Pm me for more
cheers julien
so far coming:
Rolla23q(silver ke70)
wazzar(black convertable ke20 +another ke)
Rollaboi(blue ke30)
MrKe70(silver ke70)+(ke30 maybe)
EMP-2TG(cream ke30)
Dave Ke30(blue ke30)
My mate(metalic red ke30 12at)
chrizer(ke70 4agze)
ke35-4agze(ke35 4agze)maybe
Notorius(ke70 4k)
Plz pm me if u would like to come
cheers julien
for more info :lookin cruise and events under KE Cruise!!!!!
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 02 November 2004 01:41
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i doubt ill be ready that early, but ill try
btw its bamboo not cream 
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Laverton, Vic
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July 2003
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 02 November 2004 08:35
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bummer your all in NSW.
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 02 November 2004 14:32
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| wombat wrote on Tue, 02 November 2004 19:35 |
bummer your all in NSW.
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Oi
Hello, Queenslander
I ain't no Mexican 
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Bottom of the hill, Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Wed, 03 November 2004 07:29
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| towe_001 wrote on Wed, 03 November 2004 01:32 |
| wombat wrote on Tue, 02 November 2004 19:35 |
bummer your all in NSW.
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Oi
Hello, Queenslander
I ain't no Mexican
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No, but wombat is 
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Laverton, Vic
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Wed, 03 November 2004 07:53
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I'm nbot mexican, I'm from down south....oh yeah mexico. haha.
Stoopid mexicans
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Wed, 03 November 2004 13:17
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| wombat wrote on Wed, 03 November 2004 18:53 |
I'm nbot mexican, I'm from down south....oh yeah mexico. haha.
Stoopid mexicans
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Fri, 19 November 2004 08:40
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how you going with your conversion cwheelan? i almost done
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Carlingford, Sydney
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Fri, 19 November 2004 16:35
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its coming 
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sat, 20 November 2004 00:35
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you saying I slack EMP?
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sat, 20 November 2004 00:40
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nope
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Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sat, 20 November 2004 11:18
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heres my KE corolla of my toyota collection
68 KE15 with a dodgey 2TG conversion (i didnt doo it)
soon to be repowered with a 3TC from a spare T-18 for autocross duties ( i have plans for the 2tg  )
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Ballarat
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May 2002
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Mon, 22 November 2004 01:54
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I have a ke36 wagon with a rebuilt 4k, it's currently undergoing major bodywork repairs and a paintjob
pics of the work in progress are here:
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/621471
there'll be some interior pics going up in the next couple of days too
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Adelaide
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August 2003
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Mon, 22 November 2004 08:21
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hello all,
Scotts the name, love the rollas owned over 10
personally havent paid more than $700 (ke30) for any
of them. do all the work myself as cheap as possible
(without being stupid)
78 ke30 4dr.
yellow
4ac (minus the 'c')
t50
custon tailshaft, mounts etc
32/36 webber
2" exhaust
elec dizzy
14" rims
king springs
reset leafs 2" lower
extra leaf
ke55 front and rear swaybars
ke55 diff (4.3:1)
new carpet
full stereo (6x9's, 6", cd, all pioneer)
sports wheel
sorta buckety seats
owes me less than $2k.
note: crashed car two nights ago  whole left side
very damaged, but not structual damage. will be
fixed before christmas... 20valve on the way
also,
70 ke11
red
4k
k50 (5 speed)
32/36 weber (rejetted)
extractors
2" exhaust
lowered front and rear around 2.5"
whiteline swaybar (on order)
awaiting respray
new carpet
new dash pad
ke70 seats
lots of ke parts for sale. mainly ke10, 11, 16. but got a ke55 and a ae71 wrecking as well.
cheers.
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October 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 23 November 2004 07:46
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hi, i have a ke11 corolla and i might go to the meet if im not working. its the beige one that was for sale last week on the forum.
i used to own a ke35 back home in ireland, i had a narrowport 4age in it with a t50 shortened 2piece driveshaft and ae86 lsd/disk rear axle mounted on the leaf springs and a set of supra 14 inch rims,
i had a custom front crossmember made from half a kp61 crossmember and half an ae86 crossmember so i had the engine mounts for the 4age and the starlet steering rack, i had the lower half of the starlet steering column with the bottom bearing welded to the ke35 firewall/column bracket. the front brakes were early fwd celica callipers with bmw brake disks mounted to the kp61 front struts, i also had the front antiroll bar from the starlet on custom brackets and the rear bar from an ae86. i owned the car for nearly 5 years and it broke my heart to sell it, a 17 year old bought it with daddys money and stuffed it in to a wall!
i also have a 1987 daihatsu charmant with all the bits from a dead ae86, everything bolts in even the petrol tank! the charmant has the very same floorpan and wheelbase the trickiest part was the fuel lines and wiring in the ecu.
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January 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 23 November 2004 11:46
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| syncro wrote on Tue, 23 November 2004 18:46 |
hi, i have a ke11 corolla and i might go to the meet if im not working. its the beige one that was for sale last week on the forum.
i used to own a ke35 back home in ireland, i had a narrowport 4age in it with a t50 shortened 2piece driveshaft and ae86 lsd/disk rear axle mounted on the leaf springs and a set of supra 14 inch rims,
i had a custom front crossmember made from half a kp61 crossmember and half an ae86 crossmember so i had the engine mounts for the 4age and the starlet steering rack, i had the lower half of the starlet steering column with the bottom bearing welded to the ke35 firewall/column bracket. the front brakes were early fwd celica callipers with bmw brake disks mounted to the kp61 front struts, i also had the front antiroll bar from the starlet on custom brackets and the rear bar from an ae86. i owned the car for nearly 5 years and it broke my heart to sell it, a 17 year old bought it with daddys money and stuffed it in to a wall!
i also have a 1987 daihatsu charmant with all the bits from a dead ae86, everything bolts in even the petrol tank! the charmant has the very same floorpan and wheelbase the trickiest part was the fuel lines and wiring in the ecu.
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Any pics???
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Fri, 26 November 2004 06:57
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i have pics of the ke35 with a set of shitty superlite type wheels on it right after it was painted, ill get my brother to post em up here as i dont know how.
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Silverwater
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December 2003
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 30 November 2004 09:51
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who was driving that neat little KE25 west along the M4 on Sunday morning?
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Thu, 02 December 2004 22:37
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[quote title=towe_001 wrote on Sat, 20 November 2004 04:58]I've finelly gotten around to take some photos of me car.
Sitting at the wreckers
The head number is 24010 and no i not selling
pardon my ignorance but wot is so good about that head???
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Thu, 02 December 2004 23:45
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[quote title=hokey wrote on Fri, 03 December 2004 09:37]| towe_001 wrote on Sat, 20 November 2004 04:58 |
I've finelly gotten around to take some photos of me car.
The head number is 24010 and no i not selling
pardon my ignorance but wot is so good about that head???
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Big port
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sat, 04 December 2004 13:33
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what sort of money would that #head go for? i have one! (replACED with a tg tho) is a it a good money spinner>>\\??
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January 2003
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sat, 04 December 2004 15:19
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the "bigports" are numbered 22010 (K) and 24010 (3K).
the differrence is that normal heads have 27mm intake ports (and some have 25!!), but the bigports have 30mm diameter intake ports.
the exhaust ports are almost exactly the same between K, 3K and 4K heads of all types.. there is some variation in the indents in the exhaust port roof tho.
the benefit is that on a 4K block, the 3K head gives 10:1CR for free, and also means you can unshroud the valves with less loss of CR.
i do run a bigport head, but with very modified exhaust ports and combustion chambers. i don't think most people will benefit from runnign the larger intake ports AND if you think you do, you can hog out the normal heads intake ports to be 30mm anyway..
the main thing was that back in racing days, those in the know would get the bigport and then takt that pit a few more mm than the competition could with normal heads.
bigports also have twin groove 'o-ring' valves, and they must be changed to single groove ones to run higher lift...
money spinner? they are worth what someone pays for it... $20? $50? $500? more like $50-100 if someone is willing to pay.
thing is tho, if ppl can afford it, they usualy aren't modifying K motors
Cya, Stewart
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sun, 05 December 2004 23:41
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thanx for the info stewart. much appreciated
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dude what do you reckon i will get for my ke 30
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Mon, 06 December 2004 11:35
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hey ppl i was thinkin of selling my ke30 '78 model. its custom white with gloss coat. dual black 'gt' stripes. new carpet all the way through. 54mm tacho, and 15" simmons mags. custom 1&3/4" exhaust from genie interference extractors. 4k motor bored out to 1.5L with custom high cam and oversized pistons. recon standard carby. reapoulstered door trims. recon brake booster. 8mths rego. after market pedals and gear nob. under dash neons.
give us an idea of what you yhink its worth? cheers!!
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 14 December 2004 01:15
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1500-2000
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January 2003
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Re: dude what do you reckon i will get for my ke 30
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Tue, 14 December 2004 06:40
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| mayo_mayo3 wrote on Mon, 06 December 2004 22:35 |
4k motor bored out to 1.5L with custom high cam and oversized pistons.
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would you like to substantiate this claim please?
to my knowledge, the 4K block cannot be bored from 75mm to 80.5mm, as needed for 1.5L.
and high cam? what do you mean by that?
Cya, STewart
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Kilsyth, Melbourne
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NSW Engadine
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June 2003
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 14 December 2004 06:52
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I might be rejoining the KE crew guys... Keyword might
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Fri, 17 December 2004 09:48
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I just finished my 2tg/ke55 conversion. Quite happy with it. What would you guys say a respectable 0-100kph time would be for a '55 with a 2tg is? Standard eng with carbs?
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Kilsyth, Melbourne
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September 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sat, 18 December 2004 23:16
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did u incur any problems in the conversion or was it all pretty straight forward? about to do one myself and just gettin as much info as i can.
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August 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sun, 19 December 2004 03:13
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pretty straight forwared. If you have any q's just ask.
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sun, 26 December 2004 12:13
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I've been unable to do anything on me ke25 in the way of rust repairs etc so instead i've been moding the gauge cluster with ta22 gauges.
Doesn't look half bad if i do say myself.
I'm planning on putting the fuel and watertemp gauges where the radio is.
The steering wheel is from my AE82 twinky . The only prob with the wheel is that it sits further from the dash then the standard wheel.
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 04:37
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good work mate. you gonna fix the dash top up?
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Location:
Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
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August 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 11:15
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Yeah. But i'm in two minds of either get one from the wreckers or get it re-skinned. But doing that is a long way off yet.
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Mon, 03 January 2005 02:12
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I have an AE, but not an 86 sprinter, its a 71 corolla
If I told you it was a KE70, with a 4AG conversion, would you notice, and can I then be a part of this thread??! 
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Location:
Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
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August 2004
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Tue, 04 January 2005 06:44
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But whats with the bumber bar?
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Its broken I can't find a straight replacement here in canberra. I'm looking for a plastic one from an AE71 sedan, but they're all busted from front end smashes!
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Location:
Sydney
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January 2004
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Re: KE Corolla dedicated thread.
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Mon, 10 January 2005 07:52
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Have any of you guys bought the Adjustable strut top mount for a KE20 series from Noltec?
Was the stud pattern correct?
I went today and I got a pair of these for my KE25 only to find that they were out by about 6mm (from stud to stud). On the box it says that they use the same parts for the KE30 series aswell and I am pretty sure that KE30's are different to the KE20 strut tops. I think they may have assumed that they would be the same parts.
Anyway I am taking a standard '20 strut top to them tomorrow so that they can make a correct fitment.
Just make sure you measure what you have before you purchase anything.
PS I am not trying to give Noltec a bad rep and I am very happy with the help that they gave me today.
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