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January 2004
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Sydney
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 05 July 2004 13:10
 
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Stick to the t25s I'm guessing. Do these boost below 300rpm?
Can get them off an RB20, CA18 I guess..any others
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 05 July 2004 13:12
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300rpm? 
3000 I'm guessing you mean - and yes, a t25 should boost below that. A gt25 even better... pricier tho
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melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 05 July 2004 13:12
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remove the TVIS when using a turbo. no question about it.
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 05 July 2004 13:18
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It's going to be hard to find the right one according to this article...somebody gave me this address.
http://members.iinet.net/~sayers/biscuits/turbos.h tm
Yes I did mean 3000rpm sorry... I wonder if diesel turbos even boost from 300 
And the TVIS removal a must!? 
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 05 July 2004 13:18
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Why remove it? It seems to work fine on a 1GGTE. Toyota left it there for a reason did they not?
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Sydney
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January 2004
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 05 July 2004 22:37
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If you're not after a lot of boost and you want boost down low, wouldn't a ZE be the logical answer?
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 05 July 2004 22:40
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i have used td04l off a wrx on a 86kw 4age and it boost response is awesome, no lag, awesome torque etc,
Dale
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 01:35
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I thought rexy's don't boost till 3000rpm. Does it work better on the 4age than in stock trim?
Cheers
PS The supercharger reuires switching from the ECU. I'm planning to use stock ECU. I suppose the supercharger setup should be considered. Could wire up a switch for it, but then it's either always on or off.
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 01:37
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they dont boost till 3000 on a wrx, there header design is the problem they are 6 foot long before they reach the turbo, there is no heat left in the gas,
on a 4efe they have 12psi on board by 3000rpm, on a 4age they have 11psi on before 2700rpm,
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 02:10
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Far out - that sounds awesome!
Is there any chance of picking these up for around $200-$300.
Are they better suited than a T25 for the 4AGE you think?
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 02:42
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Around $200 sounds right...
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 02:48
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i picked up the one on my misses starlet for $150 shipped to sydney, a good low KM (<20000km) will cost about $200,
yes they are better suited than the t25, the stock as a rock 86kw with this turbo on it makes 187rwhp on 11psi boost and has NO lag at all,
Dale
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 03:30
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That sounds good Dale. Thanks for the info. Just out of interest..did you have the starlet engineered. WIll I have to get my ae82 twin cam engineered if i stick the blower on? I know you're allowed 10-15% more power before engineering, could I just say it's only 3psi or something? Don't want it to be dodgy though. (What is usual cost - about $300)
I like the idea of no lag..is a TD04 the same as TD04l..or are they different .
Thanks
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 03:33
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nah it isnt engineered, it probably should be,
its a chicks car tho, she drives it everywere and dosent thrash it too much,
the td04l is the turbo you want,
here is a pic of the starlet engine bay,
Dale
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 03:52
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That's tidy!! You're gf is very lucky.
I might ask you few qns later if that's ok...about coolant lines, oil lines etc.
What would that starlet do the 1/4 in - sub 15s?
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 03:56
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yeh no worries i have all the sizes and stuff here,
it makes 130hp at the wheels on a tame tune, the NA cams really suck and it chokes above 5000rpm im going to put a turbo bottom end and head in it i know it will make 200hp at the wheels then,
im guessing it would run a mid 14 if the gear box held together,
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 03:59
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i know it's a pretty cramped engine bay, but doesn't having the pipe between turbo and IC running al the way across the exhaust manifold seem a bit... odd? with no heat barrier either?
it kinda looks like it been designed to heat the intake piping 
Cya, Stewart
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 04:04
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its that cramped there is no where else to run it unless we fit a front mount to it and i dont want to do that as the water to air works too well, the air temps are quite often lower than ambient and the speed that the air travels through there is fast enough not to effect it too much
Dale
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 04:53
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There's a TD04 off an MY00 on a subaru forum - Is this the same?
Do you know what year models your turbo was on the Rexies - is the TD04 different to a TD04l you think?
Thanks
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 04:55
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thats the TD04L,
they came on my98-current wrx, as long as it is not a sti they are all the same turbo
Dale
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January 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 06 July 2004 06:39
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Anybody know a good place to look for a s/hand rexy turbo around that price $200- I think the one I saw was sold..
I've found a couple of forums but not many..
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January 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Wed, 07 July 2004 00:47
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Good place to get the WRX turbos?
Thanks
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Wed, 07 July 2004 00:48
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try the MRT rally forums and the Liberty club forums, thats where i got mine off, there is also one of Performance forums as well
Dale
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NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Wed, 07 July 2004 18:02
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try E-bay man or the trading post!
i got one, <30000km's for $150 and a turbo off a 1.8 TX3 4WD for $90 both in perfect condition!
hunt and you will find.
im going to try the Tx3 first, i heard and have seen them running 15psi til nearly redline and it should spool up before the wrx turbo.
my GC8 WRX has the smallest turbo of the gc8 range, every year they come out with smaler, more responsive turbo's. thats why a high flowed MY94 turbo is an excelent upgrade (FLYSTI runs this on his brumby ute!which runs like 11's i think)
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Wed, 07 July 2004 23:09
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That's interesting. I read that about rexies changing their turbos slightly..
Thanks - I'll try ebay.
Does anybody know the physical size of these turbos - I've got minimal room b/w the radiator and block (AE82 corolla FWD)..I see Dale got his in a starlet ok, so shouold be good.
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Wed, 07 July 2004 23:15
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the turbos from the 98-03 wrx are all identical, only the pre 98 and sti are different turbos,
you will fit it in there no problems at all, you may have to rotate the housings and weld some tabs on for the wastegate actuator but thats about it, they are not a huge turbo
dale
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Melbourne
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March 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Fri, 09 July 2004 09:08
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Just wondering how the rex or the tx3 turbo would perform on a 20V silv, or is that another kettle of fish?
thanx.
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 10 July 2004 12:03
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highrolla
all starlets are MAP sensored,
Joe,
the td04 off a wrx would work perfect on a 20v
Dale
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I supported Toymods
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south of the big smoke
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May 2002
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sun, 11 July 2004 06:12
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too small for a 1g, i would be looking at something like a High flowed s14 t28 or a s15 t28 as a minimium,
the wrx turbos are good for 20+psi on a smaller 4cyl
Dale
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Wallerawang
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March 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 12 July 2004 12:25
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Hey 10sec_rx7 / Dale
What way do you mount the turbo in the bay...
With the inlet (AIR POD SIDE) of the turbo on the
passinger side or the drivers side of the car ????
Also do you have any pics of a fwd engine bay (AE-82)
that you've done a 4agte conversion to ????
Thanks again for your help
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Mon, 12 July 2004 22:29
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ill dig up some pics of daves setup,
the compressor goes to the drivers side,
Dale
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Sydney
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January 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Tue, 13 July 2004 09:10
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I hope steve doesn't mind me using his pic..but looks like he had compressor on passenger side
 
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Fri, 23 July 2004 15:10
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Hey Dale, Do you think if you get a chance you could get a close up shot of the mounting of the turbo in your starlet.
I now have a td04 here. It looks like some big circlip holding on the intake housing.
I'll have to search, but I'm not really sure about what I need to do to rotate the housing and which side is inlet and outlet for oil and water, I assume it's important to make sure oil inlet is on top, so you use this as your reference? and rotate housings as necessary?
Thanks
PS Was you comp really on drivers side..not like the pic i showed below.
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 24 July 2004 03:12
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hey mate
ill get some pics for you over the weekend,
yes the comp was really on the drivers side!!
you have to pull out the circlip and rotate the housing , the exhuast housing has the vband clamp on it, just do the same with that,
there is a locating pin on the housings that needs to be removed for this to work.
Dale
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NSW.south coast.Drifting
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February 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 24 July 2004 04:46
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what about using the TX3 4WD (1.8lt) turbo on the 4age? these are supposedly ment to handle 15psi on the ford motor, but i'll only want to run about 10 anyway.
these should spool up alot quicker, and hold to redline yes? (mind you 2700rpm at 11psi sounds pretty nice!)
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January 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 24 July 2004 10:31
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Thanks a heap Dale!
Is there a way to put the comp wheel side on the passenger side..I think that would suit a lot better...
I'll have to start having a decent look at it.
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Perth
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July 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 24 July 2004 11:39
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Ok...I have an 89 supercharged MR2...how expensive would it be to go turbo, and what are the pros and cons?
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Wallerawang
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March 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 24 July 2004 11:47
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Highrolla,,
I think it looks better if the comp wheel is on the drivers
side of the car.. The plumbing looks better I mean...
Also I think having the turbos compressor outlet on the
drivers side and the throttle body's inlet on the passenger side
makes it easier to plumb in a front mount intercooler . I think
it's the sortest route for pipe work too and as said above look
better...
Just my 2c's
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Sydney
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January 2004
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Wallerawang
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sun, 25 July 2004 02:27
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Bit of a late night GZE  .
Thanks mate..have you rotated your housings...ie. taken circlip out removed vclamp etc.
How hard is it to get the circlip out?
I dont know where the locating pin is though
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Wallerawang
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March 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sun, 25 July 2004 04:06
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Yeah mate always up that late....
I have given the exhaust side a go but couldn't get it to budge.. 
For my setup the exhaust side doesn't really need to be rotated
as it will be high mounted so the pipes will come out of the
head and point up into the turbo so my comp side outlet will
need to point down so it will need to be rotated about 90
degrees.. I haven't given this side a go yet as I need to
get a set of cir-clip pliers, unless someone know how to get the
clip out another way ???
With the locating pin, I think it will be on the inside of the
rim where the turbo's center goins.. I will use the dremel to
cut / grind it out.. This shouldn't be any hastle at all..
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sun, 25 July 2004 05:47
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Let me know how you go GZE 
I will hae to rotate the exhaust housing won't I, if I want the exhaust inlet on the turbo facing up (so pipe can come downwards into it. Does the exhaust side rotate relative to the centre bit with oil and coolant bits (just looks like they're fixed relative to each other
THanks
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sun, 25 July 2004 11:11
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Thanks for pics Dale .
Very tight indeed. Is your turbo manifold coated with anything to reduce heat? (HPC or anything?).
Also..you rotated the exhust housing, but does that not move relative to the centre piece...i.e the oil inlet (small orifice can be seen in my previous pics) that has to be on top right?? SO gravity feeds it to the outlet.
Cheers!
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Wallerawang
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March 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sun, 25 July 2004 17:18
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Yes, Both the comp side and the exhaust side can be rotated
separately from the center... IE: oil feed stays at the top and
the front and rear can go on any angel you like, but as Dale
said "you will have to weld on some tabs so that the waste-gate
can be mounted..."
Thanks for the pics Dale... Any update on the 4age ones ???
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sun, 25 July 2004 22:10
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yep housings can be rotated so the oil feed stays at the top,
still chasing the 4age pics, ill get some asap,
Dale
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Sydney
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January 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Thu, 29 July 2004 10:19
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just trying to pull apart my td04. Having a try at prying apart. Took the clamp off put screwdriver between exhaust housing and body but doesn't budge. Any ideas..
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Syndey
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December 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Thu, 29 July 2004 21:59
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that wont do jack, hold the turbo by the compressor cover with the exhuas housing pointing the ground and belt it with a hammer, it will come loose
Dale
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Location:
Perth WA
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December 2003
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 16 October 2004 02:42
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bash it.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 16 October 2004 08:07
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Use a "dead blow hammer". They are the suckers with the lead beads in the head!
regards Chuck.
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sat, 16 October 2004 08:54
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yep, I used "stumpy" (my affectionate name for what is effectively a miniature sledge), sprayed the turbo with wd40, left for half an hour, then tapped the inlet all the way around till it eventually came off
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Coffs Harbour
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October 2004
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Re: Little turbos on a 4AGE
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Sun, 03 April 2005 09:54
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hey, old thread, how did you go highrolla ? im gathering the bits to do the same thing, but ive got a ct26 instead
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