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July 2003
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AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Wed, 07 July 2004 12:41
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Ive had the car for about 2yrs, and this delima has been seen by all the (so called) steering and suspesion expert.
When driving along a smoothish road all is fine, but when i drive over a series of potholes/bumps general bad condition road , i get a weird knocking sound/feel thru the steering wheel, like something is loose/broken, ive been the 4 different shops and they cant find anything. I got a whell balance and alignment, that helped a liitle but the same noise is still there.
Any idea's, has someone dealt with this before.
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Wed, 07 July 2004 13:23
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Have you checked the large nuts that hold the front strut cartridges inside the strut leg? If these are not down tight against the cartridge, then the cartridge can move around inside the strut making a knocking noise.... Its quite loud, you'd definately notice it. A reputable steering specialist once left mine loose after doing some work on my suspension, took a while to figure out what was wrong.
Cheers
Phil
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NSW, East Coast
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Thu, 08 July 2004 10:38
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| TE72_Turbo wrote on Wed, 07 July 2004 23:23 |
Have you checked the large nuts that hold the front strut cartridges inside the strut leg? If these are not down tight against the cartridge, then the cartridge can move around inside the strut making a knocking noise.... Its quite loud, you'd definately notice it. A reputable steering specialist once left mine loose after doing some work on my suspension, took a while to figure out what was wrong.
Cheers
Phil
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thanks for the reply Phil, i can only assume that when i say "check everything" these so called professionals did just that "check everything"
I intend on jacking the car up on the weekend and giving "everything i can think of" a look at.
I intend on checking,
struts: rubbers/nuts&bolts
coil/spring: make sure its seating/seated properly.
control arms: rubbers/cracks
If anybody else can suggested area's i should check please do?
Cheers Phil
Steve
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Thu, 08 July 2004 10:47
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Check out the uni joint on the top of the rack - I had a similiar problem with mine, I always presumed it was just wear in the rack, until I decided to check it out one day.
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Location:
Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Thu, 08 July 2004 11:20
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Rex has this problem also, quite horrific really. He's narrowed it down to a set of fucked dampers and 3mm or so freeplay in each rack-end.
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Location:
Sydney (Campbelltown...!)
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December 2003
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Thu, 08 July 2004 11:23
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wat about your sway bar link rubbers when there worn out they make that kinda noise
also check play in the steering rack as on my sprinter the end bush in the rack is worn and when i go over pot holes i get a clunk knock noise
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Fri, 09 July 2004 01:37
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| mrshin wrote on Thu, 08 July 2004 20:47 |
Check out the uni joint on the top of the rack.
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Ever price a lower uni-joint for an AE86?
Over $200 from Toyota ... 
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Location:
Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Fri, 09 July 2004 07:05
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Probably not applicable in your case but...
I had a knock/shudder develop in the steering on my '86. Turned out the steering wheel was just ever so slightly loose on the boss. When I went to put the new Boss Kit on I discovered it. Up to that point I thought the rack might be on it's way out.
Cheers,
Dan
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Fri, 09 July 2004 12:17
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I had a good look at it today and everything appears intake except the uni joint you refer too, the drivers side has roughly 3-4mm play in it, i can only assume this is wear the noise is coming from.
Thanx for all the reply's, i will check all of your suggestions and post my findings.
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Fri, 09 July 2004 12:22
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| Dodgy_Haro wrote on Fri, 09 July 2004 11:37 |
| mrshin wrote on Thu, 08 July 2004 20:47 |
Check out the uni joint on the top of the rack.
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Ever price a lower uni-joint for an AE86?
Over $200 from Toyota ...
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Any suggestions where to get one cheaper?
Cheers
Steve
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Sun, 11 July 2004 11:03
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along with what dcleyne said. check that your steering wheel is fully on.
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Sun, 11 July 2004 22:01
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| FKN16V wrote on Fri, 09 July 2004 22:22 |
| Dodgy_Haro wrote on Fri, 09 July 2004 11:37 |
| mrshin wrote on Thu, 08 July 2004 20:47 |
Check out the uni joint on the top of the rack.
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Ever price a lower uni-joint for an AE86?
Over $200 from Toyota ...
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Any suggestions where to get one cheaper?
Cheers
Steve
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Sure, either buy an aftermarket branded one, or do what I did, take the joint in one hand, walk up to a big shelf full of junk in your shed, scrounge around, and smile when you have one that matches. From memory mine was from a 50K old AE92 half cut
[Updated on: Sun, 11 July 2004 22:01]
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Location:
Melbourne
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June 2003
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Sun, 11 July 2004 23:54
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Do u have the right bump stops on?
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I Supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2004
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Mon, 12 July 2004 10:50
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hmm seems like every1 has this problem....does it happen when u slowly reverse off a curb/driveway if u dont firmly hold the wheel?
If so then more then likely it will be the uni joint, both my cars have the problem so i cant even swap the uni between em 
i think it might be caused by rubbing curbs at speed 
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Mon, 12 July 2004 11:08
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| dar_sbb wrote on Mon, 12 July 2004 09:54 |
Do u have the right bump stops on?
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Ive never changed anything, all original except fo the springs, 30mm lower and a whiteline front sway bar, I definatly know there is a noise coming from the uni joint at the end of the rack, i might just buy from toyota, unless someone has some they would like to sell. I need my car for work everyday so its a little hard to take it of the road and search for parts.
MRSHIN you say look for aftermarket ones but i wouldnt know where to start looking, can you suggest someone.
Cheers
Steve
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NSW, East Coast
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Re: AE86 Steering/Suspenison delima?
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Sat, 18 September 2004 12:01
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Turns out that the left control arm bushes were shot, and the actual steering rack was completly rooted, all fixed, im happy now.
Cheers everyone
Steve
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