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GZETrueno
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icon4.gif  4agze No Idle Fri, 09 July 2004 06:20 Go to next message
I finally got my 4agze running but it only runs for 5-10 seconds max. If I don't give it any throttle it will die withing a few seconds and can't keep it going much longer than that with throttle. What does it sound like?
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Henn
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Re: 4agze No Idle Fri, 09 July 2004 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just saw this and your other post with pics.

One thing I noticed is that you've got the intake pipe onto the throttle body flipped 180degrees so it fits RWD. Have you still got the throttle position sensor plugged in? I found I couldn't plug mine in unless I made a spacer to lift that intake pipe up a cm or two.

The TPS has 4 wires to it, +5v, earth, signal, but importantly also a wire which senses if the throttle is fully closed. If the TPS is not plugged in, maybe the computer isn't realising it should be idling.

Hope that helps

Hen
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walkie
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Re: 4agze No Idle Fri, 09 July 2004 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Do a search. This has been covered a few times.

You are not alone though, my GZE won't idle cold. Also sometimes it will die even if it's been running for half and hour. Just one of those things. Some people in other threads have said that new plugs will fix it, but it did nothing for me.
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Re: 4agze No Idle Fri, 09 July 2004 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
walkie wrote on Fri, 09 July 2004 16:42

Do a search. This has been covered a few times.

You are not alone though, my GZE won't idle cold. Also sometimes it will die even if it's been running for half and hour. Just one of those things. Some people in other threads have said that new plugs will fix it, but it did nothing for me.


how bout getting the microtech tuned alittle better Razz
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GZETrueno
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Re: 4agze No Idle Fri, 09 July 2004 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Today I checked to see what codes were flashing and it came up as number 22 for water temperature sensor. So I replaced that and don't get any codes anymore but it still doesn't idle. Must mean it's a mechanical problem now. Most likely a vaccum leak or I have some vaccum lines mixed up?

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walkie
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Re: 4agze No Idle Sat, 10 July 2004 04:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
a lot of the time my mechanic spent tuning it was trying to fix that problem and the idle that was climbing up and down, but couldn't get it perfect. The climbing is gone but it doesn't like the cold starts.
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EMP-2TG
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Re: 4agze No Idle Sat, 10 July 2004 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah welcome to the world of aftermarket computer, big pain in the arse... tho in saying that if u can get a carby to idle cold u should beable to get efi to as well
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monkeymajik
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Re: 4agze No Idle Sat, 10 July 2004 07:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Getting GZE's to idle properly on the standard computer with an fmic and a pulley is hard enough.
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EMP-2TG
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Re: 4agze No Idle Sat, 10 July 2004 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
walkie, has your gze still got the big pully on it?
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Re: 4agze No Idle Sat, 10 July 2004 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gze's will idle ok even on fmic if wiried and plumbed up ok

its only when made into rwd setups people dont do the plumbing correctly or the wiring is when it causes problems

i have wired up afew and after abit of adjustments i have gotten the things to idle ok as long as the plumbin is sorted out because once u modify the intake u have to redo the hoses so once u hook the hoses up as they were then it should be ok
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Re: 4agze No Idle Sun, 11 July 2004 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Seriously, i dont know what you guys are having problems with. My GZE idles perfectly with a big FMIC and HKS pulley.

That said check the ECU and engine grounds out, ive seen (and stuffed up personally) the grounds before.
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Sprinter
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Re: 4agze No Idle Sun, 11 July 2004 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm with Takai - I had plenty of idle hunting issues but it takes a little patience to hunt down the air leaks.

Make sure the TPS is correctly set (all the resistances are in range).

Is your Idle control valve connected? And is it ok - are the resistances in range?

Make sure your intake is sealed, especially if it has been reversed.

You've replaced your water temp sensor which is good but have you got the air bubbles out? This will cause hunting.

And lastly, one I found almost by accident, make sure the O-ring for the dipstick seals correctly. I replaced my mine and many idle issues were resolved. I put it down to being one of the last leaks in the engine.

Just my 2c
Denis
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walkie
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Re: 4agze No Idle Sun, 11 July 2004 09:09 Go to previous message
EMP-2TG wrote on Sat, 10 July 2004 19:31

walkie, has your gze still got the big pully on it?



yeah measured it yesterday looks like it's a 175mm pulley. Boost as shown on the gauge usually about 10psi measured just before the intake manifold

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