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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Tue, 10 September 2002 07:24
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Brand new Tial 46mm external Wastegate, Never used, this is a new item, I can just get them at a decent price,
$1,100.
RRP ~$1500
Lemme know.
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Location:
gold coast
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May 2002
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Re: Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Tue, 10 September 2002 12:19
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Damn they are exxy. It makes Turbosmart 45mm Wastegates look good at sub $700.
Why are you going for one of these, do you know something about turbosmart unit's?? (A mate is getting a turbosmart WG next week)
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Wed, 11 September 2002 08:42
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Yes my friend, I have.
I was going to go for the turbo smart unit, but they are not of the same quality as the tial ones.
For a start, the valve in the turbosmart unit only opens maybe 1 cm max, which means that your flow is going to be impeded in a big way comparative to a unit that opens up to the full capacity of the valve area.
In addition to that, the turbosmart valve works in a simple fashion (and don't quote me on this, I don't know the entire specifics of it, but I have been told and shown).
Basically what the turbosmart one does, is senses the pressure in the top fo the can and opens when the pressure increases. It does not give good nor accurate boost control.
The tial one however uses two pressure inputs. One at the base and one at the top. The boost pressure goes in the top and pushes down onto the top of the piston. Basically unless the boost pressure overwhelms the pressure below the piston, it will not open. Putting it simply, it will NOT open unless the boost you require is met. It physically cannot open until the boost pressure is met. Better boost control.
Anyhow,
I thought it was worth the extra dollars alone when I saw how much the turbosmart unit opened up.
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Location:
gold coast
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May 2002
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Re: Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Wed, 11 September 2002 10:13
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Turbosmart ones have fittings for positive pressure to the top of the diaphram. I have seen one.
I will look into how far they open, as this intrigues me.
I know that TrusT 45mm units open up a fair way.
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Location:
Newcastle
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September 2002
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Re: Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Thu, 12 September 2002 08:54
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| stradlater wrote on Tue, 10 September 2002 17:24 |
Brand new Tial 46mm external Wastegate, Never used, this is a new item, I can just get them at a decent price,
$1,100.
RRP ~$1500
Lemme know.
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Will you still be able to get them in about 1-2months as im intrested in getin a descent external wastegate 
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Fri, 13 September 2002 05:07
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Pete: The turbosmart ones do have a positive pressure inlet at the top of the can, yes, you are right.
However it's the actuation of the valve that differs. Basically, boost control is not a good with a turbo smart one. It will start opening at (lets just say you have it set at 20 psi) something like 16-17 psi and then will be fully open at 24psi.
But you wanted it set at 20psi did you not? Oh well, get what you pay for. 
The tial one will open on 20psi and stay at 20psi.
And yes, you are right, the trust 45mm ones do open up a big way, and guess how much you pay for those little baby's.
fly_psi: It's possible that they will still be around in a few months, but I'm not certain. Just get a hold of me when you want it and i"ll find out.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Sat, 14 September 2002 21:28
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Tial is a top brand in wastegates and hold accurate boost perfectly. If u want some hardcore turbo equipment, this is the sh!t
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Location:
Townsville
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July 2002
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Re: Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Sun, 15 September 2002 00:25
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| MREMIL wrote on Sun, 15 September 2002 07:28 |
Tial is a top brand in wastegates and hold accurate boost perfectly. If u want some hardcore turbo equipment, this is the sh!t
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I'll second that
My Turbo guy has actually stopped selling TurboSmart wastegates completely as they tend to not last very long. not wanting to offend anyone, but they are of pretty dodgy build quality, and innacurate.
The Tial will perform just as well as a Trust or HKS equivelant though.
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Tial 46mm External wastegate NEW
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Mon, 16 September 2002 03:05
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That's funny, you guys are seconding exactly what I had heard, suggesting that it's not just hearsay, hey?
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