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Wildsupra
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Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Tue, 13 July 2004 13:56 Go to next message
not really a car part but yeah.
im chasing a gasless migwelder preferebly CIGWELD but anything considered. must be excellent working condition.

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Matty

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Re: Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Wed, 14 July 2004 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
why gasless? you are aware they are shit? unless you need to have bad welds?
more specifically what do you need to weld and how strong does it need to be?
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Re: Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Wed, 14 July 2004 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
did you also know that migs that use gas can also be used as gasless, as it is only a matter of changing to a flux cord wire to run with out gas.

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Re: Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Thu, 15 July 2004 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Flux core wire can also run with gas so you must get gassless wire
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Re: Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Thu, 15 July 2004 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fwiw: i saw a few new mini migs and a baby gasless mig at bunnings hardware last weekend - the baby ones being around the $400 mark.
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Re: Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Thu, 15 July 2004 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wildsupra did you get my PM?
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Re: Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Sat, 17 July 2004 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the only gassles wire i know of is called innersheild i cant remember who makes it but it is very sensitive to your stickout length and it spatters like no welder youve seen before
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Re: Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Sat, 17 July 2004 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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why gasless? you are aware they are shit? unless you need to have bad welds?


A poor tradesman blames his tools. This guy's doing a fantastic impersonation of a wanker, ignore him. If you don't believe me, look at the car in his avatar and then consider how valid his opinion is Rolling Eyes

There are definitely better options out there, but gasless MIG can be quite effective - if it wasn't they wouldn't be built and supplies wouldn't be available for them. I have a MIG that I use gasless and even as a beginner I had no problems doing quality welds. What is shit is a cheap gasless MIG.

I have a reasonable quality MIG that is useable with/without gas and have no problems. However, I had a cheap gasless one I borrowed from a friend and it was very hard to weld with (I'm sure a pro could do it but I spent ages without luck). My welder has adjustable wire feed and power settings so once you set it up correctly you will be unstoppable.

Unsure if this is standard for all welders, but you change the wire and also on mine you have to swap the +ve and -ve cables for some reason. I stronly suggest you read your manual before you electrocute yourself or spend hours trying to figure out why you can't get a bead going Very Happy

I use a gasless CIG wire, it's pretty cheap and any welding shop worth their salt (eg BOC) will have this on shelf in ½kg and 5kg rolls. In fact I think the last roll I got was from Bunnings, so it's not that uncommon. Can't remember the name but I remember thinking it's a bloody funny name...

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Re: Gasless Migwelder dammit plz move to wanted Sun, 18 July 2004 05:52 Go to previous message
7M-Brisbane wrote on Sat, 17 July 2004 18:14


A poor tradesman blames his tools. This guy's doing a fantastic impersonation of a wanker, ignore him. If you don't believe me, look at the car in his avatar and then consider how valid his opinion is Rolling Eyes

was that warranted? im not one for personal attacks especially from anyone who drives a poo brown car. Laughing Rolling Eyes

in my opinion anyone who want a gasless mig hasnt done their research. the strength of the weld they provide is much inferior to a gas sheilded wire both in final appearance and weld strength. simple. i know i was being a bit too blunt about it but the facts are clear. also gasless migs are almost invariably the cheapest ones with the least power and duty cycle. as you said
7M-Brisbane wrote on Sat, 17 July 2004 18:14

What is shit is a cheap gasless MIG


i am simply giving my professional opinion as a boilermaker on these machines. get a decent mig and then if you want gasless by all means use it just not for anything that is highly stressed.or holds much pressure.


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