| Author | Topic |
|---|
Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 03:52
 
|
 |
| Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 27 July 2004 10:41 |
thats a rourt
|
What's a rourt Jag7799?
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 04:00
|
|
|
how much extra it is for drifting lol
|
|
|
Location:
I wanna go Hawaiiiiii.......
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 04:23
|
|
The cost to drift is not a "rort". It occurs becuase of the need to engage two different organisations (Street machine and CAMS) in order to host the two disciplines (sprint AND MK,GTW etc.)
Motels in Tamworth are Excelent, plenty of variety and very used to catering for groups, at one stage of the year they cater for more than 50000 visitors to town. The people are friendly (including the motorsport clubs), and facilities are first rate and cheap - any time other than CM week.
Cosing is being established for MK and GTW as we type. MOtorkhana may even involve short track dirt oval speedway !!! just for laugh.
|
|
|
Toymods Social Secretary
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 05:18
|
|
SHORT TRACK SPEEDWAY!!!! 
the more i think about it, the more i think tamworth. The drags can be done anytime if people arent so lazy and actually GO to their local tracks.
I've always wanted to do motorkhana. And as a spectator as much as a driver/competitor i can see a MK being much more fun to waatch.
Imagine the cheers and jeers from people spinning out, ripping it up etc etc!!
|
|
|
Location:
I wanna go Hawaiiiiii.......
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 05:40
|
|
PLease note: speedway is only an outside chance - the facilities are there - insurance and availabillity will be an issue.
I only mentioned it to show the diversity of event available at the one venue.
Matt
|
|
|
Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 06:18
|
|
| Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 27 July 2004 14:00 |
how much extra it is for drifting lol
|
Yeah, but as Matt explains in his next post it's the cost involved with different organizations having to be engaged for some think like this. Believe it or not it cost a lot (time and money)to arrange an event like this.
Just as a matter of interest, how much would you expect to pay for such an event?
Not trying to be rude just asking.
|
|
|
Toymods Club Treasurer
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 07:45
|
|
May I suggest a new thread be created with a poll?
Options could be:
Tamworth
Dubbo
Don't care, prefer either
Undecided
This could give an idea of how people are thinking, and how close the 2 options are.
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 10:26
|
|
ohh.. i wasnt being a jerk.. just was surprised it cost that much extra per car based on 40 cars
i have no idea how much these things cost
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 10:46
|
|
i second drags all the way..i want to race norbies supra and peewees uzx73 next year 
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 10:48
|
|
Ok, then how bout we all go to Tamworth, do all the driving events, and you all drive back to Sydney and we go to WSID  Then us Perth guys can drive back home via Melbourne, and you can drive back up to Brisbane 
|
|
|
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 10:57
|
|
sounds like a plan
alot less driving for me
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2003
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 11:00
|
|
|
*cough* Willowbank is a BIT far dude
|
|
|
Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
April 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 12:04
|
|
Grant
For the $140 why go drifting when you can go racing?
Just a thought.
|
|
|
Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
April 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 12:14
|
|
| 3t-RA40 wrote on Tue, 27 July 2004 16:18 |
Just as a matter of interest, how much would you expect to pay for such an event?
|
Oran Park supersprint cost $150 for the gp course while another club was charging $140 for a sprint on the short course.Some events are as low as $65 while others can be as much as $220.
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 13:25
|
|
|
dubbo drags was $45 or something wasnt it?
|
|
|
Location:
I wanna go Hawaiiiiii.......
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 27 July 2004 22:41
|
|
| V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 27 July 2004 23:25 |
dubbo drags was $45 or something wasnt it?
|
not quite...
fees for the 1/8th mile were closer to $85, which was subsidised by Toyota Australia (Thanks Guys).
Breakdown would typically be $50 for ANDRA and the rest some sort of memebershiup fee to the hosting club to cover thier costs + profit.
Matt
|
|
|
Toymods Vice President
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
|
Toymods Social Secretary
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 28 July 2004 07:11
|
|
im still thinking tamworth, with a bunch of u all going to WSID straight afterwards to lay down som GRUDGE MATCHES!!!
I know that i would be up for booking some more motel accom in sydney to stay with all those coming to sydney (if they did).
For me, Nationals is the people and atmosphere of being surrounded by heaps of people passionate about the same thing i am - TOYOTAS!!!!
|
|
|
Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
April 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 28 July 2004 07:21
|
|
| Joshstix wrote on Wed, 28 July 2004 15:42 |
Why have all of the suggestions for Wakefield been ignored?
.
|
I thought the origanal idea for central NSW was so everyone has to basicly travel the same distance.Would be a long drive for anyone from QLD way,but i wouldn't mind Wakefield.
Tamworth has a decent size airport as well so maybe drags,GTW or motorkhana could be held there if need be as well.
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 28 July 2004 08:11
|
|
|
im voting tamworth cause its closer now
|
|
|
Location:
Taree, 4h nth of syd
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 28 July 2004 08:52
|
|
Hey there all, ive never been to a toyota nationals and want to go to the next one, it would be great if it was in Tamworth so my vote is on Tamworth
hopefully my car is on the road and looking the part (hopefully before christmas this year anyway)
Eddie
(Darola)
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 28 July 2004 10:23
|
|
|
DUBBO cos its close to me family cuz! we love VB down der cuz!
|
|
|
Location:
sunny coast, qld
Registered:
October 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 28 July 2004 14:36
|
|
Well I am in two minds.
Firstly, my car only goes fast in a straight line. (when it is going  ) and I really wouldn't want to take it around corners fast, it just feels like shit basically so I wouldn't be entering any motorkhanas or anything like that.
So I like Dubbo for the drags but as has been said you can do that anywhere.
but I like Tamworth because it is a heap closer.
So all in all I think my vote goes to tamworth especially if they are planning on making a drag strip in the future!
Blake: your car will be finished by next year? j/k
|
|
|
Location:
Carlingford, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 28 July 2004 14:47
|
|
|
well i had a chat to some of my toyota friends from the mid north coast (nsw) and they said if it was @ tamworth they would make the trip over as its alot closer to the coast
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Thu, 29 July 2004 00:51
|
|
|
we could set up a drag day aswell on the track or somehting somewhere couldnt we?
|
|
|
Location:
I wanna go Hawaiiiiii.......
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Thu, 29 July 2004 05:36
|
|
No.
There will be no legal or sanctioned drag racing in Tamworth till 2006.
|
|
|
Location:
Cranebrook, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
 Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Thu, 29 July 2004 08:16
|
|
tamworth sounds like a very good option for the nationals....lot more accomidation options too...hopefully i will be there next year 
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Thu, 29 July 2004 11:23
|
|
YESS! it WILL be running!
i get my motor bits back tommorow (my new parts) - the cunts still havent paid me the 5k!!
So motor will be assembled in the next fortnite.
Things are coming together slowly, and norbie and myself will be doing the wiring in 4-5 weeks at a guess 
Blake
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Thu, 29 July 2004 11:28
|
|
if i sitll have my car.. by 2006.. its gonna be a beast lol
|
|
|
Location:
newcastle
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Sat, 31 July 2004 23:14
|
|
One thing that should also be mentioned is that we would likely have the use of a camping area at tamworth .
dont forget at dubbo its a 2 hour return trip to the drags .
one motel that we are going to have a look at has a function room that seats 140 guest . we dont even have to leave the motel .
we have decided to do a run to tamworth check thiungs out and report back in few weeks time
|
|
|
Location:
Colac, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Sun, 01 August 2004 04:40
|
|
both options are good ..
Pity dubbo cant hold more " events " as itys closer for southerners + westerners to attend
|
|
|
Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
April 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Sun, 01 August 2004 09:36
|
|
| celicamad wrote on Sun, 01 August 2004 09:14 |
we have decided to do a run to tamworth check thiungs out and report back in few weeks time
|
If you are going to Tamworth then you should go on the 29th of August as the tri-challange super sprint is on that weekend.
Would give you a first hand look at how things are run and what sort of times the cars might do if running there at Easter.
|
|
|
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Sun, 01 August 2004 13:54
|
|
im with joshstix on this one , why has every one over looked wake feild , you can do track racing , drift , drag , hill climb , wow to go and probly motokana to , plus they have accomadation there and there own insurence , and im sure if you booked the place out for a week end they would cut you a good deal , we hire the track off them a fair bit for testing days for out race car , i can ask them if some one wants
Dennis
|
|
|
Location:
newcastle
Registered:
January 2004
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Mon, 02 August 2004 02:05
|
|
|
i think tammworth is the go,cos most of us guys may not have HP cars to do drags,variety is good i reckon,gives us the chance to show our skills in the motorkana
|
|
|
Location:
I wanna go Hawaiiiiii.......
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Mon, 02 August 2004 03:27
|
|
| M.J.H wrote on Sun, 01 August 2004 19:36 |
If you are going to Tamworth then you should go on the 29th of August as the tri-challange super sprint is on that weekend.
Would give you a first hand look at how things are run and what sort of times the cars might do if running there at Easter.
|
I am a Memeber of TSCC and have run there on many occasions. We will most likely miss the tri series though.
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Mon, 02 August 2004 10:18
|
|
so nothing power display wise would be done at tamworth? No dyno, no drags...a show n shine maybe?
|
|
|
Location:
I wanna go Hawaiiiiii.......
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Mon, 02 August 2004 10:46
|
|
go to whoa , and possibly dyno. Who says Hp is such a disadvantage for skillfull driving events.
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Toymods Club Secretary
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Mon, 02 August 2004 10:59
|
|
| Special Ed wrote on Mon, 02 August 2004 20:46 |
Who says Hp is such a disadvantage for skillfull driving events.
|
Seeing a 700hp Commy tackling a motorkhana in the wet tells me that 
|
|
|
Location:
newcastle
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Mon, 02 August 2004 11:14
|
|
The problem with Wakefield park is we need to attract local sponsors as well as our other sponsors.
we need a show n shine venue and a venue for the presentation dinner .
how far to drive to town for meals or alternative accomodation ??
it is likely we will have use of a portable dyno dynamics dyno for next year this is yet to be confirmed . but is a possability
on the subject
Toyota Nationals dyno day Scotts dyno Newcastle .
Dyno Dynamics dyno in shootout mode
STRICKLY TOYOTA POWERED VEHICLES ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
28th August .
Entry forms will be on the webpagehttp://www.toyota-nationals.org.au by the end of the week .limited to 40 cars (first in first served) .
NO ENTRIES ON THE DAY .
cost $65 per car includes lunch .(entries are NOT valid until form AND money is recieved)
Trophy Catagories
best n/a up to 2 litres
best forced induction up to 2 litres
best n/a up to 3 litres
best forced induction up to 3 litres
best over 3 litre vehicle
Best Overall
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Mon, 02 August 2004 12:43
|
|
|
im so in
|
|
|
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Mon, 02 August 2004 13:04
|
|
celicamad , the track is a 5-10 min drive from the center of town , heaps of places to stay and have the presentation dinner , etc , toy mods already has a sponcer in goulbourn near the track and im sure it wouldnt be hard to find others
Dennis
|
|
|
Location:
newcastle
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2003
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
June 2003
|
|
|
Toymods member
I supported Toymods
Location:
Rydalmere, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 03 August 2004 13:04
|
|
From Brisbane to Tamworth is 577.5km (or almost 8 hours drive according to the map)... Brisbane to Wakefield is just under 860km (or a frazz under 12 hours drive)  Source: http://www.whereis.com.au
I wouldn't take too much notice of the drive times, I can drive from Sydney to Ballina if I time it right in 8 hours flat (most of the time it's closer to 9 hours though ), and that's 750km with three stops.
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
February 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 03 August 2004 13:10
|
|
long weekend traffic, double-demerit point and heavy police presence would also be a factor in taking the Pac Hwy?
It might be easier/safer (from my experience of driving to Glen Innes regularly) to take New England down to Tamworth and if it's wakefield, then only stop for petrol/smoko in the big-guitar-town.
fwiw: i'm easy for all three locations - i just want to meet/greet some of you folks and gawk at cars-n-shit.
|
|
|
Location:
c'town, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 03 August 2004 22:34
|
|
|
what are the travel figures for VIC people?
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
I renounced punctuation
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Tue, 03 August 2004 23:04
|
|
Melbourne to Wakefield: 671 km.....7hrs 31 mins
Melbourne to Dubbo: 821 km.........9 hrs
Melbourne to Tamworth: 1162km......12hrs 48 mins
According to Travelmate.
|
|
|
Location:
Campbelltown
Registered:
December 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 04 August 2004 01:11
|
|
|
Im not fust cause this will be the first one that I will be going on
|
|
|
Location:
I wanna go Hawaiiiiii.......
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 04 August 2004 01:35
|
|
New England Hway is a much faster and safer road - especially on the easter long weekend.
The basic difference in travelling time is this -
Tamworth is about ...
4 hours closer to Brisbane
4 hours further from Melbourne
and the same travelling time from sydney.
|
|
|
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 04 August 2004 01:54
|
|
What are the statistics of how many people went to Dubbo from the different states?
Also there were people from Canberra too, so they would need to be taken into account.
|
|
|
Location:
newcastle
Registered:
June 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 04 August 2004 10:19
|
|
For canberra its better to go wakefield
but Canberra to dubbo vs Canberra to tamworth ????
Melbourne well we welcome anyone from melbourne but despite invites we havnt actually had ANYONE enter from Melbourne in the last few years
Brisbane boys have had the long slog for 26 years now . and have shown outstanding support for the event
its also close to Tamworth for Newcastle which actually represent almost HALF of last years entrants
Sydney well its about the same distance with no locusts
weve asked wakefield for a quote .and will consider the options
ACT are good for around 10 entrants each year
|
|
|
Location:
I wanna go Hawaiiiiii.......
Registered:
November 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 04 August 2004 10:42
|
|
According to the wakefeild web page, the track hire is 3 times the cost quoted by TSCC.
How much do you want to spend ?
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 04 August 2004 12:01
|
|
| Special Ed wrote on Wed, 04 August 2004 20:42 |
According to the wakefeild web page, the track hire is 3 times the cost quoted by TSCC.
How much do you want to spend ?
|
5 dorrah!
i vote for somewhere in qld lol
|
|
|
Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
February 2003
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Wed, 04 August 2004 22:32
|
|
Celicamad,
I think I was the only entrant from Melbourne this year. You never know, there may be a few entries from Melbourne next year.
Richard
|
|
|
I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Thu, 05 August 2004 00:58
|
|
You'll be having some entrants from Perth hopefully
My house -> Dubbo
3916.56 km 52 Hrs 57 Mins
My house -> Tamworth
4256.14 km 58 Hrs 38 Mins
We win I don't mind personally. We'll be driving to Sydney first anyway, and its the same distance to either from there.
|
|
|
Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2004
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Thu, 05 August 2004 10:47
|
|
|
I like tamworth. not because it will take an hour or two off the trip but because it will bring back what the nats are all about, driving events (and a good pi55 up). anyone can race in a straight line, no offence anyone, but circuits/motorkhanas/GTW put your driving skills to the test. i'm sure that will keep toyota oz happy. if you are patient enough, you can wait till 2006 for the drags to return in tamworth.
|
|
|
Toymods Club Treasurer
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Fri, 06 August 2004 02:22
|
|
| Quote: |
I like tamworth. not because it will take an hour or two off the trip but because it will bring back what the nats are all about, driving events (and a good pi55 up). anyone can race in a straight line, no offence anyone, but circuits/motorkhanas/GTW put your driving skills to the test. i'm sure that will keep toyota oz happy. if you are patient enough, you can wait till 2006 for the drags to return in tamworth.
|
I agree with this.
There are registered drag strips in each state with the same setup, timing, etc. The track surfaces & temps might vary a bit though.
Interstate rivals can have "grudge" matches by posting up timeslips.
There is no way to do this with a motorkhana, each track is unique.
Gives us handling guys a chance at something instead of the Old Pac, Putty Rd, (insert relevant state's roads, which Adelaide kills everyelse in BTW).
|
|
|
Registered:
August 2002
|
|
Re: Toyota Nationals 2005 - options for next year
|
Fri, 06 August 2004 11:43
|
|
|
steve - i want a rematch when the dina is operational
|
|
|
