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Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 13:19 Go to next message
I have done some research and found out that i have a Gen 1 engine and would like to upgrade the injectors while i have the engine out.

The impedance is low ( to the best of my knowledge) and they currently flow approx 225cc.

I have read that the 4agze injectors are very similar impedance and flow approx 365cc. Reddish Orange

Can anyone confirm this and then sell me six of the little squirters!! Very Happy

[Updated on: Tue, 27 July 2004 13:22]

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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The 7MGTE injectors are supposed to be a good upgrade, seeing as you'd need an aftermarket ECU to properly use any different size one, they'd be a good upgrade.
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks JCM Frank.
Would it be hard to get a decent idle out of these, being near double the size?
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
As I said, I wouldn't bother upgrading the injectors unless you were going to change to an aftermarket ECU.
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Considering E-manage for that. Very Happy
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You could always put the larger Gen 3 injectors withou changes to the ECU. Thas what i am doing..
The are i think 245cc
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thats incorrect, 1) the Gen3 are a different impedence, and 2) you're always going to be running rich because the ECU still thinks it has the smaller injectors.

3) It's probably not a big enough increase to be worth it.
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What u mean they are diffrent imendence.. Aren't they all the same. If not i am fucked..lol
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
One is high impedence and one is low, which is which I can't remember.
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shit nobody told me that. Where da hell did you find that out??
So how do i go about fitting the gen 3 one. I need a diffrent resistor or..
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It might work, from memory the Gen3 are high impedence, but they also don't run a ballast resistor, maybe you can remove the resistor, I dunno Razz
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I put up a post for it..Thanks
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Okies just measured the impedence of the two diffrent injectors. The are both 13.6 Ohms. so i guess they are not diffrent...
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Are you sure they are Gen 3 injectors and Gen 2 injectors respectively?

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=14558&rid=162&S=e5a235e4c2091eeba3c7c779 df3d5118&pl_view=&start=0#msg_118579
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah i am sure. The came of my gen2 motor in my shed and i brought the gen 3 of Luke(eviljack) I have not checked the ones on the car which i know is also a gen2.
I know the engine in the shed is a gen2 by the turbo's. The exaust does not have a spearte collector like the gen3.

Anyways here are the part numbers if it helps

Both are:23250-70080

Diffrence being
Gen2:0d18
Gen3:8e07
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Tue, 27 July 2004 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
( soory Luke Bugman) Sorry for the mix up
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Wed, 28 July 2004 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gen 3 are high imp and gen 1 are low imp.

Andrew, i have a set of 7mgte 440cc squiters that i will be putting into my 1g. However i use a EMS computer otherwise running them with a stock computer the car would run so rich to a point that it would not idle. The good thing is that the 7mgte injectors locator pins on the plugs actually match the 1s on the Gen 1 loom, however on the gen 3 thats a different story.
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Re: Suitable injectors for upgrade on 1G Gen 1? Wed, 28 July 2004 08:09 Go to previous message
Are you saying they are for sale Adam??? Very Happy

Like to know about your EMS as well...

Thanks mate.
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