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 Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Sun, 01 August 2004 13:25
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For more stopping power for an RA65 Celica, what do you suggest ?
Fronts
Any sugestions ?
Rears
Swap the rear drums to discs from MA61 celisupra ? Will this make much of a difference ?
How much would these brake upgrades cost ?
Thanks
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Sun, 01 August 2004 13:46
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Try looking for upgrades to the MA61 for the front, lots of different options are available, nothing exactly off the shelf.
As for the rear, easiest way to get MA61 rear is to fit the whole rear, bonus is you get LSD too.
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Sun, 01 August 2004 21:57
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Norbs is doing the simplest swap using MX83 struts/BA Falcon Rotors and R33 Skyline calipers.
The rears is probably harder, but would need to swap over a MA61 rear end as RA65's are drum rears and don't have the brackets to fit a rear caliper ?
I have some rear discs and calipers from my MA61 if you want them ?
Cheers
Michael B
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 01:56
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What would be a more worthwhile conversion ?
front or rear convo ?
Would he be looking to get the parts new as opposed to 2nd hand from a wrecker ? ... Would the bits easy to come by ?
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 02:07
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Fronts do 70 to 80% of the work, so the frontts would be it.
How you source it depends on yoyur budget.
Do a search and you'll find quite a bit of infp on it as it is underway by a few people, and the threads lists some costs as well.
Cheers
Michael B
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 02:35
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i shall do another search .. see where it gets me .. maybe ask noobs direct - thanks
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 02:39
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| Les wrote on Mon, 02 August 2004 12:35 |
maybe ask noobs direct - thanks
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Don't call him Noobs, he might get a tad upset !!!! 
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 04:05
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| bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 02 August 2004 07:57 |
I have some rear discs and calipers from my MA61 if you want them ?
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DIBS!!
michael - my 'spare' dodgy supra XX rear end is all 'japanese' with unko calipers and rotors. id REALLY like to get some AUS stocker bits to measure things up with...
LES - i have an ENTIRE rear ma61 x-member with diff, traling arms and brakes etc available if youre interested. wont be 'out' for a little while, but is definitely up for grabs at some point. even includes a 3.9:1 LSD 
cheers
ed
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 04:50
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<tick!>
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 04:56
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Sweet Norbie ! Thank you kindly.
Cheers,
Mitch.
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 05:19
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| Norbie wrote on Mon, 02 August 2004 14:50 |
<tick!>
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You forgot the uber wide and sexy rims to match
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 05:37
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hmm does not sound that easy ... godddam ..
norbie ... how much did all the parts cost all up or the front brake conversion ? it was mentioned that the front had a 5 stud patterm ... does the ma61 have 4/5 stud pattern oriiginally ?
my celica has 4 stud pattern, so basically if i am right, i would do the front brake conversion per norbie, get ma61 discs for the rear and assuming that ma61 has 5 stud pattern ..
how right or wrong am i ?
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 05:50
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| ra23celica wrote on Mon, 02 August 2004 15:29 |
Michael / Norbie,
So, having read the 5 page BBK monster post and the other
Is a R33 caliper a better choice than the R32 ?
Thanks,
Mitch.
(Shortcutting the MA61 brake upgrade knowledge circuit !)
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Um, I think it is now 6 page s.....
R33's have a longer leg than Z32's(to account for the bigger disc), other than that they are the same
les, MA61 is 4 stud std, so mitch is right, if you do the front MX83 upgrade, you need to match the rears !!!
Cheers
Michael B
[Updated on: Mon, 02 August 2004 05:50]
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 06:20
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Yup. If you're converting from drum brakes at the same time, it might be a sensible option to grab the hubs/discs/calipers from an MS123 Crown and install it on the Celica control arms, assuming there's a bracket there to support the calipers? Can't remember how it all bolts together now I think about it. But anyway, that way you'll get 5 studs and disc brakes all at the same time, without having to re-drill anything.
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 06:42
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awesome
thanks guys ..
and on top of all this .. needs engineering rite ?! another add $350 
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Re: Ease of / Cost of brake conversion for RA65 celica
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Mon, 02 August 2004 21:59
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| Norbie wrote on Mon, 02 August 2004 16:20 |
Yup. If you're converting from drum brakes at the same time, it might be a sensible option to grab the hubs/discs/calipers from an MS123 Crown and install it on the Celica control arms, assuming there's a bracket there to support the calipers? Can't remember how it all bolts together now I think about it. But anyway, that way you'll get 5 studs and disc brakes all at the same time, without having to re-drill anything.
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I think I remember some one else saying before that to get the discs on the back, the swingarms have to be chnaged as well ?
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