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AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Tue, 03 August 2004 10:13 Go to next message
Hello..

Just wondering if anyone here is driving around with out a front swaybar connected. I have ordered adjustable front links for em, but am just plain lazy and cant be bothered putting em in - i'm thinking that i might have to height adjust the car without the bars in first (significant amount of preload).

Anyone driving around without a front bar (i know Bill S isnt) ? And if so... how does it feel ? - if its anything like condom free motoring.. i'm going swaybar free as well.

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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Tue, 03 August 2004 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey james i used to have an R32 skyline and i pulled the front swaybar of and it understeered a heap load less with no real noticable downsides on the stock suspension.

this was just on the street, never did a b4 and after on the track.


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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Tue, 03 August 2004 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks Nathan.

I appreciate your input.
I'm working nights so as soon as i can free up some time, i'll go and pull out the front sway bar. I'm trying to get rid of some initial understeer and i'm hoping that this will do the trick. *fingers crossed*

Actually i think i'll just disconnect one link as front swaybar removal in an ae86 is a real hard !@$#!!!

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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Tue, 03 August 2004 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I aint got one in my corona, but I'll definatly be getting one.
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Tue, 03 August 2004 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Is the handling bad without it?

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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Tue, 03 August 2004 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Handling will be severely compromised without a swaybar (I would have thought this would be quite obvious), and in some cases the car will be outright dangerous without one. I wouldn't recommend driving around like that.
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Tue, 03 August 2004 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Wed, 04 August 2004 08:40

Handling will be severely compromised without a swaybar (I would have thought this would be quite obvious), and in some cases the car will be outright dangerous without one. I wouldn't recommend driving around like that.




Mine's pretty good actually. Little understeer and very controllable oversteer.
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Wed, 04 August 2004 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nothing quite like conflicting opinions Evil or Very Mad

It only takes a few minutes to pull the links out, so if in doubt, try both! Shocked
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Wed, 04 August 2004 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It probably depends on the rest of the suspension. For example if you have uber-stiff springs in front, the front end won't be too soggy. With stock suspension though... look out! Shocked
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Wed, 04 August 2004 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Never uses one in any FWD cars i had , just unloaded the inside wheel and added to less traction on a light FWD with hi power .
Always have driven all my cars without bars until there have settled . And been corner weighted , Then added bars equal to vehicle weights .
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Wed, 04 August 2004 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
when my car was going I was driving around without a front swaybar. It handled like shit Smile But I thought that was a given with a corona Laughing mega understeer even at slow speeds. It has monroe GT gas in the front, Koni yellows in the back and
king springs all round.

oh yeah and it has a lard arse 1jz in the front Smile
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Wed, 04 August 2004 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Norbie wrote on Wed, 04 August 2004 10:43

It probably depends on the rest of the suspension. For example if you have uber-stiff springs in front, the front end won't be too soggy. With stock suspension though... look out! Shocked




My springs are a tiny (ah-hem) 390 lbs/in on the front and 280 lbs/in on the rear.
Ya think that MIGHT be it? Smile
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Wed, 04 August 2004 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah i got stock corona suspension so it's quite airy up front.. Smiley = but I still manage to handle it nothing major though just the occassion highspeed cornering manovour.
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Wed, 04 August 2004 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
on a stock setup = body roll
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Re: AE86 - No front swaybar connected coz i'm lazy Wed, 04 August 2004 12:35 Go to previous message
Thanks for your input fellas..

I've disconnected the bar and removed the link(just one side) and adjusted the cars height (floor pan to ground) as best i can with 1 person and 1/2 a tank of fuel. - then went for a seat of the pants road test.

I have to say that it does feel quite nice to drive. I'm not running super stiff springs (the front being 5.3kg) and the turn in better. The cars alignment is out, but the front end of the car does feel more direct with less initial understeer. I'm picking up some adjustable sway bar links to minimise any preload - so now that i'm happy with the handling without the front bar, connecting the front bar again with what i hope to be 0 preload ... *fingers crossed*

I test drove an S2000 and i've been using that as a mental reference. if i can get this car (AE86) to handle like that.. with that sorta progression and balance.. i'd be plenty happy.

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