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Re-trimming old cars
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Tue, 03 August 2004 12:49
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I'm after everything here. Experiences people have had re-trimming? Good places to get it done? Places to avoid going to for retrim work. I want the lot!
It'd also be helpful if people could post retrimmers they've found to be very cheap, or very good. Ideally both!
The car in question is an MA61.
-J-
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Tue, 03 August 2004 12:56
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seriously: learning to sew will also help - get auto trimmer to do the hard bits and you do the easy stuff (like flat bits on door cards, back of seats, etc).
just use auto fabrics/vinyls/carpet or will quickly fade in the light
look for auto upholstery suppliers in yellowpages to source rolls of suitable material.
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 05:37
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Hi,
The Hills Auto Trimmer at Castle Hill is pretty good. I got new roof lining and it looks great. I've got some more stuff for him to do, but I gotta get the motor and gbox fixed first.
EvilJack - on the forums here - was going to see him about some trim work that other day. So, maybe he can give you a better update.
seeyuzz
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 05:48
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...and, for things like footwells, kick panels and parcel shelfs, etc, you can get a variety of materials (made specially for automobile application) from Bunnings 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 05:51
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I had my RA28 Roof done in velour for $195 by The Little Trimmer here in castle hill.
Top notch stuff
I got quoted $660 to do 2 ST182 gt4 seats
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 11:30
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Hi,
Woo-hoo... velour!!!! Much better than vinyl. It makes the car quieter and it's nice to rub.
seeyuzz
river
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 11:45
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hah shane, yes every morning i look forward to driving to work just to rub my velour 
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 13:32
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i dont like the velour fot the sole purpose of cigarrette burns! anyone considered re-trimming in SILK  hhhmmmmmmmmmmm 
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 14:32
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| fade-e wrote on Wed, 04 August 2004 23:32 |
i dont like the velour fot the sole purpose of cigarrette burns! anyone considered re-trimming in SILK hhhmmmmmmmmmmm
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you'd wanna hold on around corners tho or u will slide right out of ur seat
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 22:46
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not to mention falling asleep behind the wheel 
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 04 August 2004 23:57
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Things like seats are hard, but the roof, door and rear panels are a piece of piss to do yourself.
This is my roof panel:
One trip down to Spotlight, bit of time with some craft glue and a staple gun and we have panel love. BTW, this is from my GA61.
Just get someone else to do the hard things like the seats and stuff, they can be a right pain because of all the contours and corners. You will lose the "factory rip" in the drivers seat!
My solution was to replace the seats altogether
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Thu, 05 August 2004 00:04
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| justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 05 August 2004 09:57 |
Things like seats are hard, but the roof, door and rear panels are a piece of piss to do yourself.
This is my roof panel:
One trip down to Spotlight, bit of time with some craft glue and a staple gun and we have panel love. BTW, this is from my GA61.
Just get someone else to do the hard things like the seats and stuff, they can be a right pain because of all the contours and corners. You will lose the "factory rip" in the drivers seat!
My solution was to replace the seats altogether
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thats retro lol
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Thu, 05 August 2004 00:06
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Much respect to the quilting, looks awesome in person The wrinkles settled down too
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Thu, 05 August 2004 01:04
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Sure, it even has a thin layer of tontine on the back of it
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Thu, 05 August 2004 02:14
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OOOO KKKKK I like the quilting...what colours does it come in?? Is it safe?
But seriously its got to better than the crapped out stuff in my MK2..
I would recommend the Little Trimmer...he has done a few small jobs for me..Toymods should have a sponsor for this sort of stuff by now..
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Thu, 05 August 2004 06:38
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I had the hood lining, carpet back seats parcel rack door cards, speaker pods and front seats built up and retrimmed also for the grand sum of $2200 here in Canberra
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Thu, 05 August 2004 12:45
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Hey,
i got my drivers seat done at the little trimmer in castle hill aswell. Im heaps happy with his work.
Try and do as much as you can yourself.
For my drivers seat I went down to celica spares and got an old back seat for free. I un-stitched the good sections that were large enough to be cut and replace the damaged bits in my drivers seat, this way i got original matching material.
i took the whole seat apart and gave him only the covers and the new material i wanted him to use.
He charged me $100 for this as opposed to a previous quote of $140 for him doing all the work and using his own material that wouldnt match the same pattern.
Its heaps more satisfying when you do the work yourself rather than just paying some random bloke to do everything.
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Thu, 05 August 2004 23:24
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| Tommo wrote on Thu, 05 August 2004 22:45 |
Hey,
i got my drivers seat done at the little trimmer in castle hill aswell. Im heaps happy with his work.
Try and do as much as you can yourself.
For my drivers seat I went down to celica spares and got an old back seat for free. I un-stitched the good sections that were large enough to be cut and replace the damaged bits in my drivers seat, this way i got original matching material.
i took the whole seat apart and gave him only the covers and the new material i wanted him to use.
He charged me $100 for this as opposed to a previous quote of $140 for him doing all the work and using his own material that wouldnt match the same pattern.
Its heaps more satisfying when you do the work yourself rather than just paying some random bloke to do everything.
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when mine gets done its gonna be in leather.. and theres not much i can do there
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Fri, 06 August 2004 00:34
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| Tommo wrote on Fri, 06 August 2004 10:26 |
Not with that attitude! lol
you could take the interior out, and take all of the covers off. That'll reduce labour time for the trimmer and make it cheaper for you 
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i thought taking interior out was a given?
i was gonna do that anyway
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Fri, 06 August 2004 04:01
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ive just had my whole interior done (finished this arvo yay!)
basically i took the car there with an entirely bare interior, no carpet/seats/rooflining etc... supplied some seat frames and said 'i dont want to touch the interior ever!' and its cost me 950 for fake tan leather through the whole thing including roof lining, door trims... everything. this is in adelaide and possibly mates rates?
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Fri, 06 August 2004 09:10
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Thats much the same as I did with my RA40 drivers seat...the shoulder of the seat was split and faded...japanese black fabric not real good in the Aussie sun after 25 years...I got a back seat out of one at the wreckers and stripped the cover...he charged me $60 I think...it was 2 years ago..the fabric was a bit short and I have a seam down in the crack of the seat but you have to look hard...he did a similar job on my old MK2..Was more difficult with the heavy vinyl...cost $75..well worth the money..
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Fri, 06 August 2004 14:55
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Hey mate.
Re-trimming door inserts and kick panels etc your self isn't always as easy as its made out to be. And using craft glue is NOT advised. there is a trim grade glue which is known as Contact Adhesive.
You will be hard pressed to find trimmers that are cheap as well as have good work. You might find trimmers with good quality with a reasonable price and then you will find them with cheap prices but the quality is reflected by the low price.
Where about are you located?
Also for you other guys who said just go to spot light. be careful when you do it. NOT ALL materials are UV treated and you will be re doing your interior within 6 months if its out in the sun.
Josh.
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Sat, 07 August 2004 04:02
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I'm located in Baulkham Hills, so the little trimmer guy in Castle Hill is sounding like a bit of a winner.
I'm looking to get carpets, kick panels and doors done at this stage. Don't realy care about what type of fabric is used there, as long as it's tough (especially the carpet), sun resistant and can take a bit of water.
Any suggestions for material that won't break the bank?
-J-
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Sat, 07 August 2004 04:35
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your choices are either vinyl, velour or leather
there are variations to this in doing mix and match for an effect and apparently there is also a leather grade vinyl or something like that (feels and looks like leather but is vinyl)
cheapest is vinyl
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Sat, 07 August 2004 05:14
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you've seen my carpet josh - knox auto carpets rule the world
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Sat, 07 August 2004 07:29
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when i got my quote to do the front seats through the little trimmer the price didnt change between velour and marine vinyl
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Sun, 08 August 2004 13:55
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had my mate do my seats in a mix of black leather and black vinyl just for a diff effect. came up nice. and cheaper than all leather
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Mon, 09 August 2004 11:31
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You can use velours, vinyls, leather and if you want to be creative even tapestry.
Most carpets are tough.. But leather and vinyl is your best way to go if you want water proof. If you want to use the leather grain vinyl it is quite nice. It looks like leahter but it doesnt really feel like it.. One way to tell if its vinyl is the grain is to consistent. Leather has scars etc cause its a natural materal. Unlike vinyl, its perfect.
Good luck with it anyways champ..
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Mon, 09 August 2004 12:54
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FWIW I saw a pic on celicasupra.com of some Ma6x seats a guy had hand-recovered in leather. Looked awesome.
I'd love to do the door trims sometime in plain (perhaps perforated) black material, but am unsure how to go about it because of the curves, seams, etc. Harder than it looks.
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Mon, 09 August 2004 12:56
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Yeah, I had a look at that too, and briefly toyed with the idea of doing it myself.
Then very quickly dismissed the notion, on account of me being a total friggin retard.
-J-
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Mon, 09 August 2004 14:15
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Well done on the roof lining, Nathan, looks great. Is the roof lining attached to one panel when you take it out??? Or did you attach the new to the old... or...?
After seeing that, I want to have a go at mine. Not that there's anyhting wrong with it (pretty much mint), but... pastel blue...
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Tue, 10 August 2004 14:23
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Well hopefully I get my tax return in a week or so, and can get the work done with that. Made a few calls to some trimmers, but understandably they're reluctant to quote without getting a look at it first. They're always unsure what car it is.
Damnit, why do people always get confused when I say "mk2 supra" or "celica supra"! I bet if I owned a commodore they could quote me over the phone!
Of course, then I'd be a bogan piece of puss-bucket driving white-trash.
-J-
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Wed, 11 August 2004 09:22
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Check out thius guy's greatseat retrim - did it by hand!!
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/389589/3
The guys on celicasupra.com forums are doing a leather re-skin group buy, but it's about 650 cdn.
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 11 August 2004 10:03
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| Stefan wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 19:22 |
... The guys on celicasupra.com forums are doing a leather re-skin group buy, but it's about 650 cdn.
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Isn't that just the front seats?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 12:24
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OMG that is so horny.
I want an interior like that
-J-
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Re: Re-trimming old cars
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Wed, 11 August 2004 12:56
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| ZZT231 wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 20:03 |
| Stefan wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 19:22 |
... The guys on celicasupra.com forums are doing a leather re-skin group buy, but it's about 650 cdn.
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Isn't that just the front seats?
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I only had a quick look, so I don't know whether that price is for just the fornt front or not, but they are offering fronts and rears.
FWIW I my ma6x seats arrived today. They need a good clean, and I've read on celicasupra that you can clean the skins in the washingmachine on gentle. I'm going to give it a go. I've already taken some of the passenger side seat apart - they're so much more modular than the stock celica ones, and not that difficult to remove the fabric covers.
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Thu, 12 August 2004 06:45
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Well, I finally cracked. I had a gutfull of staring at my grey/cream/whatever striped interior, and took steps. Went and got me some vynal/carpet dye and set about making things slightly less ugly. So far it looks ok, but it's hard to tell while the dye is wet. I sure hope it turns out and doesn't end up ruining the material on my door!
Here are the left and right door trims, one dyed, the other not. Hopefully in a few hours when it's dry it'll look even better, but so far I'm happy.
Stripey & Ugly:
Not-so stripey and ugly:
I'm still going ahead with the retrim, but hopefully this will eliminate the need for me to get a door retrim done as well.
-J-
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Thu, 12 August 2004 09:21
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Back in now, and I'm happy. If anyone else out there is toying with the idea of dyeing their interior fabric/vynal, I recommend it. Quick, easy and affordable. Just make sure you follow the instructions for the dye.
-J-
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Fri, 13 August 2004 12:43
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That is very VERY nice .
That pic could have been taken the day it rolled off the production line. Make sure u keep it clean tho 
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Sat, 14 August 2004 23:50
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That's awesome!
Did you do that or did you have it done somewhere?
If you had it done, can I ask where and if you'd recommend them?
-J-
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Sun, 15 August 2004 04:27
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would anyone know where i would be able to get the pattern off a 1974 ta22 celica?
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Sun, 15 August 2004 04:35
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which pattern are you after exactly?
- doors
- front seats
- rear seats
- rear quarters
- all of the above
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Sun, 15 August 2004 07:28
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On that note... would anyone be interested in pics of a dismantled MA6x seat? If so, I'll take a bunch of photos of the seat I'm dismanted to clean the fabric & rebolster (looking at recovering, too - I REALLY want seats like that link I posted earlier!!)
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Sun, 15 August 2004 09:46
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joorsh - had it done by a mate
im in adelaide so probably not much use giving you contact details 
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Sun, 15 August 2004 10:14
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joorsh - for a bit of time and elbow grease, that looks like an awesome result!! 
Are you able to take any close-ups of the finish? (I'm still amazed at how good it looks )
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Sun, 15 August 2004 10:25
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Did you use the VHT spray dye I have suggested in past threads on this subject??..
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Sun, 15 August 2004 13:32
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| fade-e wrote on Sun, 15 August 2004 14:35 |
which pattern are you after exactly?
- doors
- front seats
- rear seats
- rear quarters
- all of the above
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the front seats
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Sun, 15 August 2004 22:48
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Yeah, I went for the VHT dye option as recommended. Damn that stuff is amazing!
I'll go down and get some close-up shots of the finish for you guys right after I have some breakfast...
-J-
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Sun, 15 August 2004 22:52
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Yes please. My car is virtuially the same, and I need to replace the carpet, and was contemplating doing the same as you with the door.
What are you going to do with the roof lining ?
Cheers
Michael B
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Sun, 15 August 2004 23:37
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I did actually have a look at the roof lining, but I'm not feeling too confident there. It looks like I could make a BIG mess if I got something wrong there. I'm thinking I'll leave that one to the pro's - just go for some grey vynal.
As for the closeups of the interior... I have a cheap and nasty digicam, and my underground carpark is in the dark. Needless to say, the photo's didn't turn out too well. I'll post the better ones of the bunch up here anyway, and get some clearer "whole door" shots out in the sun later today.
this is the cloth part of the door:
and this is the fuzzy bit down the bottom of the door:
Again, sorry about the shite piks - these were the only ones that were even vaguely clear. I can tell you however, that the dye finish is fantastic. The colour is even and smooth (even if it doesn't look it with my dodgy digicam), and it hasn't mangled the cloth or fuzz at all.
I must stress though that you need to follow the directions they give! Brushing the material between coats, etc. And I did a LOT of coats. I used 1 1/2 cans on each door alone. It's only 10 bucks or so per can, so it's worth it.
More pics coming later... if you want them?
-J-
{edit} Just looking at these pics again I realise it makes my door look grey. It's not - trust me. It's black. Stupid cheapass digicam! Draven will vouch for it - he's seen it up close.
[Updated on: Sun, 15 August 2004 23:40]
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Mon, 16 August 2004 00:19
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Pics are pretty good, gives me confidence to do mine !!!!
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Mon, 16 August 2004 00:34
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hehehe, well trust me - it looks a whole lot better than that in reality!
-J-
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Mon, 16 August 2004 01:07
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Great job mate...the finish on the lower fabric/carpet bits looks super as well...lots of dye.. I can tell...I have seen it on floor carpets but with not as much success as trims and dash pads..unless it penetrates the pile it comes up shite..
$10 a can...you did well I have been paying $14 odd..ripped again...
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Mon, 16 August 2004 02:20
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I'm mates with the blokes down at auto-one in parra.
VERY helpful
-J-
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Thu, 19 August 2004 11:02
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I've been quoted $605.00 to re-do both the front seats in black and grey vynal, and that sounds pretty reasonable to me. It's either that, or a set of new race seats for the front. Since that latter is going to cost me well over a grand, and the hassle factor will be much higher (getting rails sorted, etc), I think I might go the retrim option.
Opinions?
-J-
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Thu, 19 August 2004 13:02
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Sounds like a pretty good price.. go for the trim option..
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Thu, 19 August 2004 13:13
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I asked the other day at a motortrim place and the not-too-helpful guy said around $300 per seat. And MORE if i took it apart myself first. 
Well, the way I see it... ma6x seats have 2 big things going for them. They already sit at the right hight and don't need any mods (this is a huge +), and they are comfortable. The minus is that they are heavy. I actually bought some mr2 seats, which were immaculate and comfy, but it really bothered me after a while that the seat sat too high. Only a small difference makes a big difference to driver position, head room, etc etc.
On the other hand, if you can get aftermarket seats for around the same money (ie selling your current seats + the cost of retrim) that sat at the right height and were comfy, then they'd be way lighter.
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