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deltathing
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oil catch can Thu, 05 August 2004 02:02 Go to next message
ok, so im trying to make myself an oil catch can at the moment, because honestly fuck paying $300 for a cusco item, when i can do it for under $30.

anyway, ive been researching, and ive got all i need, hose, clips, suitable aluminium can, bike drink holding thing (to mount) hands etc..

it's just that some setups ive seen utilise a small k&n filter on the top. I'm not sure if this is neccesary, or just for the sake of using it. most aftermarket can's don't feel the need to breathe(that i can see anyway).
so do i need holes in my can to stop it blowing up? I thought that the vapour was being channeled back into teh intake, so this would account for any pressure..

anyway, what i was going to do was, just have a hose from the intake manifold valve, and from the cam cover valve both going into a sealed can, which is filled with steel wool.
Does this sound right?

[Updated on: Thu, 05 August 2004 02:04]

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Super Jamie
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Re: oil catch can Thu, 05 August 2004 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i don't think catch cans that vent to atmosphere really work that well, i much prefer one as you describe, where the can is really an extended filter and is still affected by engine vacuum. this is more like the proper term "oil / air separator"

filling the can with steel wool would probably just make cleaning it messy. you might find you can just run it without any filter, or use a $1 paper element fuel filter inline with the vacuum source

you may also want to make a little bracket to hold a piece of steel wool or ramflo filter inside the can, at the opening to the vacuum pipe, that way it filters and doesn't look messy
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Ramtech
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Re: oil catch can Thu, 05 August 2004 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
most race cars dont have a filter. just a can with small holes. but if it is a street car i would recomend a filter. it prevents nasty shit ending up in your donk, as it would be driven more regularly than a race car and on all sorts of road surfaces
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deltathing
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Re: oil catch can Fri, 06 August 2004 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok thanks for the help, yeah it seems that the whole steel wool idea would cause more problems than it would solve. It occurs to me that all the little steel fibres would end up being sucked in anyway. so yeah scrap that, i think i'll put a fuel filter inline with the one going to the manifold from the can.
seems to be working fine for now though, i'll see if i can get a pic up for anyone wanting to make one for themselves. looks fairly neat, and ended up costing just over $30.
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Re: oil catch can Fri, 06 August 2004 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'd like to see your work Smile

if you're a no-metal-skill loser like me, you can also make one out of a washer bottle and mounting bracket, ke30 corollas came with an ideal setup, probably lots of other old toyotas too
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Re: oil catch can Fri, 06 August 2004 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've got steel wool in mine, hasn't caused any problems whatsoever, and helps slow the gases down so that they have a chance to condense... Or something like that.
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punkdefender
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Re: oil catch can Fri, 06 August 2004 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
here is a doc I found..
http://members.optushome.com.au/sajeewaw/oil catch can.doc
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Re: oil catch can Fri, 06 August 2004 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ya, steel wool would eventualy break down i think. and it has loose fibres in it too. i used stainless scourers in my PVC catch can.
from what i have read having the scourers/wool there is spose to catch/stop most of the oil in the vapour coming from the cam vent, so that 'cleaner' air may get sucked back into the intake in a plumb back catch can set-up. Confused

http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/catchcanbits1.jp g
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/catchcansub1.jpg
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/catchcanbracket1 .jpg
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/Untitled-34.jpg
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/catchcanlocation 1.jpg
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/catchcanpainted1 .jpg
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/catchcanmounted1 .jpg
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/catchcanpipes1.j pg

http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/knfilter4.jpg
http://upload.3sgtemr2.com/upload/enginebaylhs1.jp g

i can plumb it back before the turbo if i wanted to. Smile

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Re: oil catch can Fri, 06 August 2004 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ah, yes - stainless scourers - that's what I meant Smile
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Re: oil catch can Sat, 07 August 2004 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey i like your work, good stuff! where do the lines go? one from tappet cover, one back to inlet manifold, one to filter, and one more?
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Re: oil catch can Sat, 07 August 2004 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
top fitting is for the K&N filter (or it can be routed back to intake before the turbo).
bottom fitting is for the drain, i just have some pipe and a stopper in it as i can't be stuffed putting it into the sump Wink.
the two side ones are for each cam cover.
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allencr
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Re: oil catch can Sat, 07 August 2004 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
forget the filter! that's like putting a filter on your exhaust pipe, unless you like the looks
or want to keep bugs from crawling in!
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Re: oil catch can Sat, 07 August 2004 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just pay someoneelse to do it
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Re: oil catch can Sun, 08 August 2004 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Autobarn has chrome ones with a guage on the side for 99 dollars.
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Re: oil catch can Sun, 08 August 2004 05:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ramtech wrote on Sat, 07 August 2004 22:32

just pay someoneelse to do it


that is a bit of a defeatist attitude isn't it Rolling Eyes
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Ni_Slo
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Re: oil catch can Sun, 08 August 2004 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deltathing - Can you post up where you got all your stuff from ?

I've been interested in doing this stuff, but I didn't know where to get the fittings and the can etc ?

Cheers,
James
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Re: oil catch can Sun, 08 August 2004 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
here is a photo of mine
its made from a suger container i got from Big W
packed it with stainless scourers
drilled a hole for the pipe fitting the the side
welded a top on it
chucked on alittle filter that cost $6.50

all up cost about $35

http://img66.exs.cx/img66/3186/catchcan.jpg
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Re: oil catch can Sun, 08 August 2004 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ramtech wrote on Sat, 07 August 2004 22:32

just pay someoneelse to do it


what a fucking stupid thing to say
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deltathing
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Re: oil catch can Mon, 09 August 2004 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mm if i was going to pay soemone else to do it i would have bought one..

i got the bottle from your local hiking store, mountain design.
(or whatever you have)
and the hose, clips etc from a hardware store.

http://www.users.on.net/~desb/can.jpg

[Updated on: Mon, 09 August 2004 06:20]

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monkeymajik
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Re: oil catch can Mon, 09 August 2004 06:48 Go to previous message
Looks good!
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