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Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Potts Point, Sydney
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October 2003
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Thu, 05 August 2004 11:27
 
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i dont think 4" would make that much of difference. The better option would be to get some 6" or 6.5" splits. You can try run it with 6x9's, but i'm not sure wat that'd soundlike...if its crap just take them out
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Thu, 05 August 2004 11:30
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yeah cheers mate, so you dont think 4's will be enough?
i'll see if i could cram some 6's in the front
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Location:
Potts Point, Sydney
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October 2003
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Thu, 05 August 2004 11:45
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You could still put them in if you have space, just for a bit of treble and all...but splits are much better
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Location:
Tassie
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October 2003
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Thu, 05 August 2004 16:55
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Try some hi quality 4 inch speakers
if they don't have the high range get some tweeters
but if they still have no effect try some speakers in the doors .
if u want to keep the doors standard for resale value buy some spacers so u don't have to cut a hole in the doors .
Remember the most you pay the better the quality
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Thu, 05 August 2004 22:46
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alright looks like ill get some 6 inchers in the door, i might re trim my old door cards and cut holes in them, loeave the stock ones in top nic...
just run the 6's off the head and the sub off the amp yeah?
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Location:
Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Fri, 06 August 2004 00:59
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That is a good plan.. let me know if you want some Ideas...
Simon.
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Fri, 06 August 2004 02:54
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do the 6" idea but I would continue running the 6*9s. The reason people will say not to run 6*9's and a sub is that it brings the sound stage back because the 6*9's make a lot of midbass. Unless you are intending to go in sound quality competitions keep the 6*9's.
and if possible get some 2 ways splits for the front and mount the tweeter about 30cm higher than the woofer.
later
chris
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Location:
Melbourne
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August 2003
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Location:
Adelaide, SA
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June 2004
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Fri, 06 August 2004 05:27
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| Chris Davey wrote on Fri, 06 August 2004 12:24 |
do the 6" idea but I would continue running the 6*9s. The reason people will say not to run 6*9's and a sub is that it brings the sound stage back because the 6*9's make a lot of midbass. Unless you are intending to go in sound quality competitions keep the 6*9's.
and if possible get some 2 ways splits for the front and mount the tweeter about 30cm higher than the woofer.
later
chris
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Not totally true. Generally 6*9's are used when you don't have a sub, as due to the cone area, they can play a little lower than most speakers. If you have a sub there is no need for the 6*9's to play low and it can also cause cancellation issues. If you want to keep them, it would be best to high pass them with a cap, or external crossover.
Splits would be the best option, however a good set of 4 inch coax or splits will probably suffice. Perhaps run them off a small 2x50 RMS amp. If you are into SQ, you will have a spectral gap, but otherwise it should work fine
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Location:
sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Fri, 06 August 2004 06:47
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how can you get cancellation with 6*9's and a sub? and is it audible to the human ear?
I would rather a cheapish 6" split than the best 4" up front, but that is just my opinion.
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Location:
Adelaide, SA
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June 2004
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Fri, 06 August 2004 07:07
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| Chris Davey wrote on Fri, 06 August 2004 16:17 |
how can you get cancellation with 6*9's and a sub? and is it audible to the human ear?
I would rather a cheapish 6" split than the best 4" up front, but that is just my opinion.
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If you play a 40hz tone (as an example) the sub and 6*9's will play it at the same time, they are not facing in the same direction, and even though bass is non-directional the wave's can cancel each other out. Try think if a peak and trough of a wave hit each other at the same time, they'll cancel each other out. It can be audible, you notice some frequencies are softer than others etc. Not realy noticable, in a simple system, probably wont notice that much, especially if you are not looking for it. And since teh music is always changing frequencies, it is hard to pick.
Yes, I agree 100% that 6 or 6.5 inch splits would be better up front. I guess I try understand that not everyone wants to cut up doors\kicks to accomodate sound, and they have to fit what they have where they can. In a perfect world, all speakers would be up the front
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Location:
Potts Point, Sydney
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October 2003
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Fri, 06 August 2004 08:49
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| jessetamsett wrote on Fri, 06 August 2004 17:39 |
i dont think ide need over 100W even if im just running them off the head yeah?
is that extra direction worth the $60 bucks?
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100W isnt all that much, its probably about 60RMS or so if you have enough power from your head unit to achieve that.
As for the extra $60...i'd say yes. Although if you want quality you wouldnt bother about $60 
PS before you buy them from the store, look on ebay , should be a few good deals on there. Also, if you get alot of stuff from the one place, say strathfield car radios, try to price match it with another store like Ryda or something. (never pay full price  )
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Location:
cambo
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May 2002
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Fri, 06 August 2004 11:07
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bostn acoustics
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: sound system pro wanted
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Fri, 06 August 2004 12:40
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i dont normally skimp on things for my car and get everything done properly with top parts, but i dont take my sound system serious i just want something good for ME the driver! not the hole street im just after a nice even sound without loose speakers jumping aorund in the back
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