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The Best Lock Nuts? Fri, 06 August 2004 02:15 Go to next message
What are the best brand lock nuts to buy and where can I get them? RRP?

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Fri, 06 August 2004 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Speco nuts is what I have on my MA61 though someone nicked my wheel clamp when i was lazy to lock it in Footscray Laughing

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Tue, 15 February 2005 05:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, I did a search and came up with this thread...and no answers, so I'll bump it up for some info.

Now my Buddy Clubs, or at least a pair of them have arrived, I'm keen to invest in some lock nuts to stop them going walkabouts (or lessen the likelihood.

Can anyone else recommend a good brand of lock nuts? If so, where can I get them, and what are they worth?

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Tue, 15 February 2005 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ditto that
when my simmons arrive, I'm never going to let them out of my sight!
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well most tyre shops carry a few sets but they are
cheap at supercheapauto - about $15 set or try repco
etc, they are the spanner key type ones. iv seen some
key locking ones to but dunno specifics about them.

[Updated on: Wed, 16 February 2005 01:17]

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well i cant recommend any but ill help but not recommnding some. I had these ones called Barri Nuts which are round with small spigots at different positions and they were teh p00p, especially when some stupid tyre place used a rattle gun on them. Had to end up using a 2m long breaker to undo, and then threw em out cause the spigot holes were clapped out.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMH do some factory based ones that are now used on all lease cars to prevent thefts.

They are pretty good, but cost about $50 per set, and they are the right thread as well !!!

If enough people are interested, I can get firm prices using my employer discout !!
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Skip wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 09:43

Well i cant recommend any but ill help but not recommnding some. I had these ones called Barri Nuts which are round with small spigots at different positions and they were teh p00p, especially when some stupid tyre place used a rattle gun on them. Had to end up using a 2m long breaker to undo, and then threw em out cause the spigot holes were clapped out.

I had a look, they're actually similar to the ones I was looking at. While I can understand what you mean, they also look like they could be a slut to get off compared to other lock nuts.


Michael, are the GMH ones factory fitted to HSV's? If so, I'll take a raincheck, I'll never forget CrUZsida seeing an HSV GTS sans wheels on jacks. Laughing
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 02:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 12:53



Michael, are the GMH ones factory fitted to HSV's? If so, I'll take a raincheck, I'll never forget CrUZsida seeing an HSV GTS sans wheels on jacks. Laughing


Not factory fitted to anything, and AFAIK, they are not fitted to HSV's either

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PS Being hard to get off is part of the idea isn't it ?
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 10:26

Not factory fitted to anything, and AFAIK, they are not fitted to HSV's either

HSV's website says they come with alloy lock nuts (not that it looks like they do in pics)

bbaacchhyy wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 10:26

PS Being hard to get off is part of the idea isn't it ?


Yeah, this is why I liked the look of them, they look a lot harder to get off than others I've seen.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ive been meaning to get a set of lock nuts for as long as ive had my rims...
so about a year and a half ago.
they are still sittin on my car, but i dont really leave my car anywhere where wankers could get away with it
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got some speedy ones...$10 wholesale...

im not sure how good they are tho...i got them off without the special thingo... Rolling Eyes

genkin had some mad japanese alloy anodised ones...they were inverted
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 04:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
truenosedan wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 12:07

i got some speedy ones...$10 wholesale...

I was trying to avoid common ones like these, someone made a valid point that would-be car thieves probably bought a packet of each of the cheap and/or common ones to make it easy to remove wheels.

As for yours coming off real easy...thats scary Shocked
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeh...i was in a rush..

it is scary when i work out how rare my wheels are!

but hopefully thievs are smart enough to work out they wont fit on thier commo so they wont take them..fingers crossed

im DEFINITELY in the market for some new ones!

in a perfect world locks nuts would be not required...one can only hope karma kills all of them... Shocked Cool
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 04:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karma the vengeful elephant Laughing

Yeah, I'm paranoid about my rims, multiple locknuts will be ready for when they go on.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
justcallmefrank wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 12:10

truenosedan wrote on Wed, 16 February 2005 12:07

i got some speedy ones...$10 wholesale...

I was trying to avoid common ones like these, someone made a valid point that would-be car thieves probably bought a packet of each of the cheap and/or common ones to make it easy to remove wheels.

As for yours coming off real easy...thats scary Shocked


This is the advantage of the Barri nut, cause there is 4 spigots id assume they would just move their positions a bit to create alot of individual patterns. Still I would never ever consider buying another set.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd use them

They look damn near impossible to steal.

And next time, ask for your wheel nuts to be put on without a rattle gun.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don't assume because you've got lock nuts you can't get into trouble.

My mate gets into his car one day, and starts driving home. He's about halfway home when: *Clunk*- the car leans heavily on the left side and a wheel overtakes him, then continues to roll down the street.

Some fool tried to steal the mags. The idiot "would be" theif started undoing nuts until.. oops... here's a lock nut.
*runs* leaving the nuts on the ground.

It pays to look at the wheels before driving anywhere, even if you know someone can't get the lock nuts off.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Depends if I have a locknut on every stud Laughing
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 06:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats why I have cover caps (y)
2 sets of lock nuts would o a whole car well..
one of each type directly opposite each other
and 2 normal nuts
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And next time, ask for your wheel nuts to be put on without a rattle gun.


This is what i do, the care factor is nil.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
do you guys realise unless your nuts are recessed in the mag, and even then, that all you do is put a pole over the locknut and jump on the pole. snaps the stud quite easily.
meh..

[Updated on: Wed, 16 February 2005 12:06]

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You try doing that with the Barri Nut design...
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
anyone have reccomendations for the anodised ones?

i saw some on ebay for a couple of hundred dollars for an entire set (of 50).

I'm unsureo f their effectiveness. Genkin, care to report or anyone with them?

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
truth is if someone WANTS your mags they will get them...even if your rim is welded to the fkn hub lol

lock nuts are just a deterrent for little kids with a wheel brace they stole from pick a part... Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes

ill be searching for some new lock nuts soon...ill keep people posted
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Wed, 16 February 2005 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
everytime I get new tyres somehow the guy end up giving me back two lock nut keys back Laughing

I think the keys are common to come by.

One of my cars actually has two sets on it.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Even tho they are close to the hub would they affect wheel balance at all ?
I'm going to get 4 different types and use those if i can.

But if u buy a car with them on make sure u get the key nut.
I know of people who have done it before.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Still i think most ppl keep the lock nut key in the car (incase of a flat tire) and thieves just break in, find it and take the rims.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 00:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Celica_John wrote on Thu, 17 February 2005 04:59


I think the keys are common to come by.

This is why I'm not buying a common set of them Very Happy

Ultimately it's not going to stop them if they really want the rims, but it will slow them down hopefully enough for them to a) give up, or b) get caught.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I keep it in my car but not where you would expect to find it.
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justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 17 February 2005 11:56



Ultimately it's not going to stop them if they really want the rims, but it will slow them down hopefully enough for them to a) give up, or b) get caught.



if its a issure of brands being too common hence heaps of spare keys around heres an idea

find a brand that dont stock in australia at all from say USA or Euroupe

spend a bit extra buying a set and getting them shipped.


they will be the most uncommon set of lock nuts in aust
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That's actually something someone else suggested, and another option I'm looking at.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So i'd assume a group buy wouldn't be a good idea then ? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think as long as you have some sort of lock nut on there, regardless of what sort it is, to deter the noobs and shitkickers, because even the most badass of locknuts wont protect you from someone a bit more experienced.

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mookie wrote on Thu, 17 February 2005 12:40

So i'd assume a group buy wouldn't be a good idea then ? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Well, it would depend on the way the brand worked - if they all had the same pattern, then yes, not a good idea. If they had 1,000s of diffrerent unique patterns, then it would still work.




Surely all lock nuts within a brand/model don't have the same pattern??!!
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan wrote on Thu, 17 February 2005 10:23

Surely all lock nuts within a brand/model don't have the same pattern??!!

The cheap/common brands do.
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justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 17 February 2005 10:25

Stefan wrote on Thu, 17 February 2005 10:23

Surely all lock nuts within a brand/model don't have the same pattern??!!

The cheap/common brands do.

They have like half a dozen patterns.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
'Mr. Lugnut' are the best locknuts you can get.

They are made in USA and are forged and not cast.

About $30 for a set.

Got them on my sprinter.

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sooo, any idea where we can get them stanz?

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sure do man.

Mag wheel and tyre in Chifley Drive Preston.

9480 0911.

Talk to Costa and tell him that Jeremy sent ya and they are champs.

Any probs just pm me jay,

cheers

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Celica_John wrote on Thu, 17 February 2005 11:53

Still i think most ppl keep the lock nut key in the car (incase of a flat tire) and thieves just break in, find it and take the rims.

Laughing This happened to a mate of mine. He had his $9000 19 inch mags stolen off his Monaro (and the $400 in 'loose' change).
And guess what? The alarm didn't go off. He didn't know about the 'pressing the lock button twice' thingy. Idiot.

EDIT: Idiot, with too much money. He's glad he drives a 911 now...
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Thu, 17 February 2005 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i tried to steal the spinners on the "soul plane" but i couldnt do it! they just had too much soul!

anyone who spends $9000 on rims gets a solid boot up the backside from me

a) you could make your own moulds for that much money
and b) its worth more than most peoples cars
and what the hell, c) im a jealous prick, and i call BS on the fact that ive never seen rims for $9000, theres mo substantial market for them :S
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EldarO wrote on Fri, 18 February 2005 03:04

c) im a jealous prick, and i call BS on the fact that ive never seen rims for $9000, theres mo substantial market for them :S

Laughing Look somewhere else other than Tempe Tyres. Razz

Did you factor in expensive rims + expensive rubbber? Or are you just assuming that noone cares about decent tyres and only wants fully sik rims which are heavier than boat anchors?
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Mon, 21 February 2005 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I was looking on the EVO website and noticed they post product reviews - go here
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?http://www.autoexpre ss.co.uk/product_test/product_test_story.php?id=48 339
They recommend McGard Ultra - you might have to buy 'em online; don't think you can get them retail in Australia.

Warning: you can only view this link once, if you look at other product reviews you have to register with the site.

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i hate to burst your bubble but most of the other guys are right. if someone wants your wheels then theyre almost as good as gone. i took my car for tyres a couple months back and the tyre place didnt give me back the lock nut so i was messing round to get my wheels of and just got a 19mm socket and a hammer and if youve got good sockets then they pretty much just mould the lock nut into a 19mm nut and come straight off. mind you it was a little noisy. as for eldar if u looked how much some of those rays wheels are you would find that i think for 17's or 18's without tyres you will pay about 2g a rim.

at the end of the day just be a little more cautious. park close to the gutter so its hard to jack the car up, park close to your house if not in your living room, and park in busy places. just a quick exercise for you guys to do, if u have a shock sensitive alarm set it on to a pretty decent sensitivity, arm it, and try and jack your car up and take off your rims. id say almost 9 times out of 10 your alarm will go nuts.
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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Sun, 01 May 2005 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
They will never be fullproof, the whole point is being like a deterrent. Just the same as an alarm, they want the car, they'll get it.

If you can force a socket over your locknuts, I suggest never buying that brand ever again.
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EldarO wrote on Fri, 18 February 2005 03:04

i call BS on the fact that ive never seen rims for $9000, theres mo substantial market for them :S

i call bull too, picsorban!!, why would you on a holden Rolling Eyes .
The US lock nuts sound good, i know of people carrying around cordless drills, most lock nuts wont survive a drill.

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Sun, 01 May 2005 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if you know a guy who's stealing wheels, may I suggest reporting him to the cops, or giving me his address and the areas he operates in?
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draven wrote on Mon, 02 May 2005 00:07

if you know a guy who's stealing wheels, may I suggest reporting him to the cops, or giving me his address and the areas he operates in?

i use to know him ages ago, and hes a 160kg psyco i dont think you would like to come across him, unless your built like a bodybuilder and a black belt.

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Re: The Best Lock Nuts? Sun, 01 May 2005 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wasn't planning on getting close to him, unless it was just to hamstring him and run away Razz
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draven wrote on Mon, 02 May 2005 00:24

I wasn't planning on getting close to him, unless it was just to hamstring him and run away Razz

Laughing , but the truth of the matter is as someone said before, i they want it they will get it, my mechanics brother had his XY GTHO Phase3 stolen, it was in a narrow driveway infront of 5 cars, the bastards rolled out 5 cars and took the GT Sad .
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