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Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 08:49
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Would just like to see what views people have on here..
Now what i want to be able to do, is have a go. Im not out to steal trophies or anything, i just want to have a go to show people my car and the different things ive done to it.
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 08:56
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Whatever is Toyota should be able to compete, so I'd say yes to the Show N Shine. But no to the drags and dyno.
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 09:00
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Good luck to you mate. i think that competing is the best way to get ahead.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO V8 M61.
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 09:20
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no.
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 09:49
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i think yes 
your creation will be a nice toyota with a different powerplant ..
Officially no you wont get titles/trophies but i think your efforts would deserve a run on the strip at the nationals - seeing they have the dubbo boys in holdens and fords run with us
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 10:14
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I voted no, before I saw the "compete without chance at a trophy"
if you just want to give it a run, of course you can have a go.
that V8 monster thing had a go at little yello rolla, and it sure as hell wasn't toyota!
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 12:07
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i have the same motor as that minus 49ci and about 300kg
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 12:13
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I vote yes. As long as the vehicle is a toyota (must have a toyota compliance plate) then who cares what is powering it, whether it be a rotary, Ford or Holden V8 or a rolls royce jet engine for that matter (wouldn't that last one be f%@#ing wild). It is a TOYOTA NATIONALS where people come to see TOYOTAS!!!!!
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 12:16
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thanks eric.
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 12:25
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i hardly think the issue is whether you can run at these events man, its more a case of whether you qualify for any awards in competition... which i reckon you dont.
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Cabramatta, NSW
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 12:26
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My post was with regard to winning trophies. "Compete" to me implies that are having a go at a prize.
If you wanna have a go just for the sake of it then I don't think anything should stop you.
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sat, 07 August 2004 12:35
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| Nark wrote on Sat, 07 August 2004 22:26 |
My post was with regard to winning trophies. "Compete" to me implies that are having a go at a prize.
If you wanna have a go just for the sake of it then I don't think anything should stop you.
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exactly, but the nationals board obviously think otherwise.
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Newcastle
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April 2003
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 03:43
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| NOT162 wrote on Sat, 07 August 2004 22:13 |
I vote yes. As long as the vehicle is a toyota (must have a toyota compliance plate) then who cares what is powering it, whether it be a rotary, Ford or Holden V8 or a rolls royce jet engine for that matter (wouldn't that last one be f%@#ing wild). It is a TOYOTA NATIONALS where people come to see TOYOTAS!!!!!
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Eric - that you mate ?
Hows sonya and co 
PS hows the Gt4 going - PM me if you wanna chat offtopic
Stuart ( you know the one ! )
As for qualifying for prizes - i thought it was a big social event for TOTOTA lovers - regardless of modifications.
personally id love to see what Blakes car can do - its obviously had a bit of time spent on organising it So go for it mate - it might quell some nay sayers
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 06:24
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thanks stuart
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 06:46
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I reckon that any toyota or toyota powered vehicle should be able to enter...
Maybe restrict the trophies and awards but never the less, you should be able to enter so my vote is affirmative  ...
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 07:12
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Yep I reckon you should be able to run... if a Navara ute with a Toyota engine can run why shouldn't a Supra with a non toyota engine run?
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Ballarat, Vic.
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September 2002
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 08:54
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so basicly what they are trying to say is that the locals can run but the toyota cant 
or another way of putting it is that i could run my dads ute (lux) and everythings cool but no supra. i know i'd rather see a supra run!
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 08:57
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I reckon you should. Still a 'toyota' just a different engine...
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 09:05
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amen on that one. Would you deny a KE20 with a rotor in it if it wanted to run at drags?? From what I can see the car has "the goods" and is a toyota why not let it run over a lesser car?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 11:23
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Sorry mate NO all toyota
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Sun, 08 August 2004 15:54
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Meh, I don't like the idea of your engine, but the fact you decided a part of your project had to be Toyota for whatever reason (and we ain't talking oil cap or some bullshit), then by all means. I didn't personally think the non-Toyota cars detracted from the atmosphere at Nats.
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Mon, 09 August 2004 02:55
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I think this has derived from that other thread about the nationals inwich we were informed under the new rule changes,as of next year all entrants must be toyota bodied and toyota powered,so even the locals wont be getting a run with their v8's etc. I personally believe that if it has toyota body and a rota or toyota engine but hill climb open wheeler wepon then who cares, but on the other hand it is one event that is going to be solely toyota...1!! cmon give it a break and go in the summernats,toymods meets etc...if you dont start applying rule changes it will end up just another car show...theres always going to be someone left out when it comes to shows...unfortunately you are always going to be a halfcast bro...getting treated as a Ford by the Toyota community,and as a Toyota by the Ford community....I myself believe you shouldnt be allowed to enter,otherwise we might aswell just name it the Dubbo Nationals?
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Tue, 10 August 2004 04:02
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If u just wanted a run without a go at the trophies then i don't see how u could affect the competition . Your car is still a toyota no mattter what people say i think . I had a holden motor in a toyota is it a "toyden" ???
the bloke i stold it to put a LX torana body on the toyota frame with the holden motor so what is it ? A holden . It should be based on the body i think. U look at the top door slammers those cars have nothing in common with the cars they claim to be other than a few styling cues .
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June 2004
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Tue, 10 August 2004 07:06
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Hi,
I think, if the numbers are limited in these events, then the pure Toyota vehicles get precedence.
However, it wouldn't be too difficult to introduce a "Toyota Powered" and a "Toyota Chasis" class for those people who have changed engine brands. This way, a Toyota powered Holden can compete in the "Toyota Powered" class and Blake can compete in the "Toyota Chassis" class.
In the end, the idea is to get as many people to the Nationals as possible and I think it would be more beneficial to include these modded-cars with their own classes. Extra people bring in more funds and more fun and more interesting cars and configurations for us to look at.
seeyuzz
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May 2002
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Tue, 10 August 2004 07:39
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I'd prefer to see a toyota with another manufactures engine run, than seeing a non-toyota vehicle run with a toyota engine.
If there is spare places left over though, then I reckon let everyone in even the non-toyotas. My mate is his '75 Lancer would love to give some of us a run next year and i'd like to see that also
So yeah, i voted yes!
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Tue, 10 August 2004 08:04
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it seems to be common knowledge, but sorry i dont know - what engine is in the car?
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Tue, 10 August 2004 08:40
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ford v8
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Tue, 10 August 2004 09:29
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To be honest, I'm not 100% sure what the disqualifying part is, but from what I can gather, its a non-Toyota engine.
I'm voting "yes" because I agree with most people on this forum ... I think you should be 100% eligible for the show and shine and be able to at least run in the performance-related categories. I'm a bit undecided about whether you should be eligible for trophies or not but if you're not wanting those anyway, then what's the harm?
I think most people on this forum would prefer to keep all Toyota's "all-Toyota", so to speak, but we don't want to exclude people who want to do something a bit different. At least you know you can always get a run alongside any Toymod forum members!
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October 2002
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 02:19
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What about a mid 90's Toyota Lexen?, would that be alowed to compete?
Just a hypothetical...
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 03:10
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Not a Toyota body OR engine.
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 06:13
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Obviously,..
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 06:41
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So therefore, he should be told to take his POS back to the bush.
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 07:26
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| Nark wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 16:41 |
So therefore, he should be told to take his POS back to the bush.
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was that aimed at me ?
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 07:54
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Nah, that was aimed at the thought of a Lexcen entering...
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 07:54
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Mr. MA61; That "back to the bush" comment was about Lexcens
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 07:58
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I hate Lexcens, one was responsible for my mum's Alfa 33 getting written off
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 08:02
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Relax dude!
Yes, I was talking about the Lexcens.
Not that I'm a fan of pushrod V8s either.
But not many on these forums are...
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:29
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I'm going to to enter in a lexen
and i will kick ass
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:44
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| Mookie wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 21:29 |
I'm going to to enter in a lexen
and i will kick ass
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good luck to you.
rob, im not whinging, im just wondering why the fuck im discluded for such a small reason.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:58
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Dude, it's just the rules of the event! In the past it has only been piston powered toyotas (ie. excluding anyone who had done a rotary conversion)..
Next year it's changed again and they're restricting it to only Toyota powered Toyotas. I can understand that you are disappointed (having seen your earlier posts where you were planning to attend it was great to see that your enthusiasm would bring you so far) I was damn interested to see your car as well!
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im just wondering why the fuck im discluded for such a small reason.
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Quite simply the reason was given in the previous thread. Whether we agree with it or not, unfortunately it's just the way it is.. 
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 12:21
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thanks paul. i *might bring it along for the fun of it, see what the time brings i guess.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 12:22
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Hehhe.. well I for one want to see a video of it's first *fire-up*! 
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 12:24
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that will be done for sure...even without exhausts on
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 12:40
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It's gotta be the best feeling on the planet if it fires up first go and you've got the video rolling!
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 12:42
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Re: Should i be able to compete at the nationals?
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Wed, 11 August 2004 13:04
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i think you should be able to compete at very least- as you always hear of these rotary powered celicas and corollas, so i think that blake should be able to take a crack at a trophy, it is still a supra...
mind you, my opinion is an uninformed one- i don't know anything about toyota nationals, dragstrips or anything. i'd think its just a shame to see a lovely toyota denied some fun and recognition
thats all from me 
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very nice man, very nice