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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2004
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when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Sun, 08 August 2004 08:45
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i'm keen to have another AE86 cruise. Maybe come to Newcastle
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Sun, 08 August 2004 09:19
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Im up for a drive tonight.. come down to sydney
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 05:11
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Evan wrote on Sun, 08 August 2004 18:45 | i'm keen to have another AE86 cruise. Maybe come to Newcastle
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dude you need to keep your pants on!
seriously mate, seems like you've been hit with a dose of ae86 fever
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 05:26
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haha there will be another one soon
probably sometime in september after we have all got goodies from our tax returns
lol
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 05:50
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Audioslaver wrote on Mon, 09 August 2004 15:11 |
Evan wrote on Sun, 08 August 2004 18:45 | i'm keen to have another AE86 cruise. Maybe come to Newcastle
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dude you need to keep your pants on!
seriously mate, seems like you've been hit with a dose of ae86 fever
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Hell yeah.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 10:38
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September... hmm sounds good to me.
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 10:43
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yes most definatly. after the drift nationals
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: May 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 12:18
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Cruises are great, but this will be better;
http://www.driftland.com.au/
Lets get a group of sprinters together and hire it out one day. Come on guys, this would be a real day to remember.
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 12:23
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i'm up for that
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 14:33
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why dont you posers join a non-elitist cruise
there are a couple of good ones coming up:
# 29th Aug = Putty Rd/Old Pac
# 10th Sept = old pac
# late sept (maybe) = south coast/nowra
i NEVER see sprinters on any cruise other than "sprinter only cruises", get out there kids!!
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Mon, 09 August 2004 15:34
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heh
im not holding anyone back
what can i say, they love my events!
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Mon, 09 August 2004 23:45
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LOL Garth...
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: June 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Tue, 10 August 2004 00:46
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that could be a good event. Drift land looks promising and entertaining.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Tue, 10 August 2004 06:31
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how about we all wait until my cars back on the road, then we go for a cruise?!!? lol.
my car will hopefully be back on the black stuff in around 3 months, so ill be up for anything after that.
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Tue, 10 August 2004 09:31
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I'm up for the driftland thing, but I was under the impression that it could only be booked by CAMS-affilated clubs or some such shit......
Poo.
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Tue, 10 August 2004 09:47
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AE86slut wrote on Tue, 10 August 2004 19:31 | I'm up for the driftland thing, but I was under the impression that it could only be booked by CAMS-affilated clubs or some such shit......
Poo.
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yes
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Location: ghetto area 2745
Registered: November 2003
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Tue, 10 August 2004 12:26
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sprinter van ok
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Tue, 10 August 2004 12:42
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SEXY 16 wrote on Tue, 10 August 2004 22:26 | sprinter van ok
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Perhaps you can bring your van and if my tractor can't keep up, we can put it in the back of the van......
I'm planning on fitting that small black mudflap this weekend though, so the old bitch should go a bit better then..... I'm also re-spraying it grey again.
She's a wee ripper!
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 03:26
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yeah why dont some of you sprinter girls go to the other cruises? open up your minds! my car will be back on the road next week so hopefully i can go to some cruises. its always good to see what people in the real world are doing with their cars
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 04:06
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with the petrol prices so high, no other type of cars are worth the trip
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 08:12
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EVOSTi wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 13:26 | yeah why dont some of you sprinter girls go to the other cruises? open up your minds! my car will be back on the road next week so hopefully i can go to some cruises. its always good to see what people in the real world are doing with their cars
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Ok, ready for a shit fight everyone?
The reason is, because we don't feel like meeting up with and bantering with a bunch of people who brand us all as Takumi's. I'm sick of all that shit. Go and look at the R34 vs AE86 vid thread. What a load of crap.
I refuse to get involved with it most of the time coz frankly I couldn't give two shits, but it's enough for me to think that a LOT of people around here are quick to chuck us all in one basket and IMO can go eat a dick.
Of course, I bet any money that the "AE86 owners: use those videos as ways to justify their choice in car/are all wanna be Takumi's/are in denial that it's a Corolla" comments would not be said in person though.
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 08:18
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booogey on!
werd.
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I supported Toymods Toymods Club Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 10:15
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AE86slut wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 18:12 |
EVOSTi wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 13:26 | yeah why dont some of you sprinter girls go to the other cruises? open up your minds! my car will be back on the road next week so hopefully i can go to some cruises. its always good to see what people in the real world are doing with their cars
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Ok, ready for a shit fight everyone?
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Shit fight indeed
Quote: | The reason is, because we don't feel like meeting up with and bantering with a bunch of people who brand us all as Takumi's. I'm sick of all that shit. Go and look at the R34 vs AE86 vid thread. What a load of crap.
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How can you judge people that you have nothing to do with? This club is not these forums. The majority of people on these forums are not club members. If you look at the R34 thread you mentioned, there were only really two people who had something to say other than what you wanted to hear, and only one of them was an aggressive tool about it. I will stake money on it that he is not a club member, nor does he attend club cruises.
Quote: | I refuse to get involved with it most of the time coz frankly I couldn't give two shits
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Likewise
Quote: | but it's enough for me to think that a LOT of people around here are quick to chuck us all in one basket and IMO can go eat a dick.
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Refer to my previous point - These people are not people that you're likely to come across at a Club/Forums organised cruise anyway.
Quote: | Of course, I bet any money that the "AE86 owners: use those videos as ways to justify their choice in car/are all wanna be Takumi's/are in denial that it's a Corolla" comments would not be said in person though.
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True - Refer to my previous two points.
For the past 4 and a bit years that I've been around here (and I'm sure long before that) there has always been jokes/banter between owners of the different makes of cars.. Hell, you should try owning a FWD Corolla without being branded a girl/ricer *waits for Nark to make a shopping trolley comment*
If you come along to events/cruises/meetings you'll see that the people of the club are not about that, and that a lot of the shit that gets stirred on here overheats and gets taken too far simply because it is mis-interpreted. Maybe part of the problem is that too many n00bs see this banter and take it to heart without knowing the history behind it. Again - These are usually not the people who have anything to do with our events.
*shrug* At the end of the day it's entirely up to you what you do and who you do it with. If you came to any of our meets/cruises you'd find a bunch of people who are enthusiastic about our TOYOTAs and about driving them. I've met a fantastic group of people through this club over the years, and wouldn't undo it for anything. I'm just glad I didn't let being part of a minority (FWD Corolla drivers) stop me from getting involved because I would've missed out on a lot.
[Updated on: Wed, 11 August 2004 10:16]
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 10:28
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yeah i wasnt trying to start shit, its all light-hearted.
ive been on these forums for nearly 4 years and the whole ae86 thing has been getting worse and worse. people used to be able to take comments about sprinters as a joke but nowdays everyone gets cut over nothing.
ive only been on TWO cruises (due to the fact my car spends more time appart then it does on the road), the first sprinter cruise (well the first one organised by garth) and the last megacruise. i found the celica/corolla etc drivers to be FAR more approachable than sprinter drivers for some reason, maybe its just me.
so anyway i reckon us sprinter drivers should make more appearances at other cruises, atleast check it out its a whole different (BETTER) atmosphere.
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 10:34
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Valid points Lucid. I must admit, sometimes I think of the forums as the club.
I must also add that some of the people who are obviously very involved with the club and frequent the forums are the ones who have started the '86 bashing on a number of occasions.
As I said before, I couldn't give 2 sh*ts. These are just my reasons (and other ppl's) why I do not attend other events.
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 10:42
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man the ppl on these forums dont represent the club. you should give it ago, maybe even get a few sprinters together and have a minicruise to one of the other cruises to atleast check it out. that way if ya dont like it ya can cruise elsewhere.
but you wont not like it
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 10:51
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EVOSTi wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 20:28 | yeah i wasnt trying to start shit, its all light-hearted.
ive been on these forums for nearly 4 years and the whole ae86 thing has been getting worse and worse. people used to be able to take comments about sprinters as a joke but nowdays everyone gets cut over nothing.
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Dude, I'm not getting cut, but it just gets so annoying after a while and it seems like we are stereotyped before we even open our mouths.
I once made a comment about AE82 drivers and all of them I see being yellow Fubu tracksuit-wearing males of middle-eastern appearance, however, as much as the model doesn't do anything for me, and as easy it is for me to stereotype EVERY AE82 driver around as one of these "males of middle-eastern appearance", I just wouldn't, and I just expect the same courtesy and open-mindedness to be extended to me. I love and am very proud of my car, but it shits me when there is a thread about how good AE86's are, which is obviously aimed at '86 drivers and dudes get on there and proceed to bag the living shit out of them and try to tell everyone that they are nothing special and are just a RWD Corolla and don't have any better performance than any other car of the same design. Well, IMO they ARE better and they DO handle better because I love these cars! There is a ST162(?) dedicated thread. I have never even looked at this thread and couldn't imagine ever going into it and stating that ST162's are ghey and hairdressers cars and FWD and are basically shithouse and nobody has any right to think they are any more than that.
Yes yes, I know you are going to say "they are not 'The Club'", but sometimes they are. Whether or not they are saying it as a joke is irrelevant because they are the reason why I have no interest in meeting up with anyone else in 'The Club'. I guess you could sum it up by saying "they give everyone else a bad name".
It's not a matter of "take a joke", it's just getting really old and really puts a dampener on people's enthusiasm for the car.
Sorry for the rant guys. Don't take it personally please. To me this is a healthy discussion.
Cheers,
Jeremy.
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 10:57
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yes, please come along to a few events that the club organises where our CLUB MEMBERS attend and get the feel of what Toymods Car Club Inc is really about.
You will probably find it's a completely different world to what these forums appear to be....
turn up = respect.
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:00
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Ok, I'm coming to an event to judge for myself as I don't want to be a hypocrite and pidgeon-hole all of you!
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:02
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dony worry jebs
my website is almost complete, in peace we will exist.
and karl. i will be coming to the next toymods cruise if dates permit.
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:05
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sprinter owners are definately the most picked on, it gets annoying but its less annoying than all the noobies that CONTINUOSLY ask the same questions over and over that give the rest of us a bad name. i think they are the ppl that the criticism is aimed at, not the genuine enthusiasts. next time there is a club organised cruise, come along and have a look. dont let me be the only sprinter!
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:07
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dude - do you have any idea how much shit the celica owners get about having hairdressers cars??
how much shit the corolla guys get about girls cars?
how much shit the supra owners get about have penis extensions?
In the face to face contact of the club environment, its all fun, we all laugh about it - and then continue on SHARING our love of TOYOTA.
Quote: | Yes yes, I know you are going to say "they are not 'The Club'", but sometimes they are. Whether or not they are saying it as a joke is irrelevant because they are the reason why I have no interest in meeting up with anyone else in 'The Club'. I guess you could sum it up by saying "they give everyone else a bad name".
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Saying that you have no intention of meeting up with anyone from the club because of a couple of bad apples is just shallow. It would be like me saying im not going to be a board member anymore because Cool1 gave me greif for a while..... WTF???
here's an idea for you..... click this link: http://www.toymods.org.au/memberscars.php
Now look down the list and see just how many people there represent the ones that give you grief. It's not many is it?
Just come to a meeting, sit in the background if you want, and listen to what we all talk about. It's a social club mate.
I cannot stress this enough. Please, do not write off Toymods Car Club because of what happens on these forums.
I am happy to meet you myself if you want, then maybe you'll get an idea of just who i really am, and what Toymods means to me.
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:07
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bah i was typing as you guys posted.
GOOD TO HEAR! we need to make a presence!
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:08
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Good to hear Garth! Taken long enough!
And don't worry EVOSTi, I'll be there and SO WILL GARTH
hehehe
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:12
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THE WITZL wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 21:07 | dude - do you have any idea how much shit the celica owners get about having hairdressers cars??
how much shit the corolla guys get about girls cars?
how much shit the supra owners get about have penis extensions?
In the face to face contact of the club environment, its all fun, we all laugh about it - and then continue on SHARING our love of TOYOTA.
Quote: | Yes yes, I know you are going to say "they are not 'The Club'", but sometimes they are. Whether or not they are saying it as a joke is irrelevant because they are the reason why I have no interest in meeting up with anyone else in 'The Club'. I guess you could sum it up by saying "they give everyone else a bad name".
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Saying that you have no intention of meeting up with anyone from the club because of a couple of bad apples is just shallow. It would be like me saying im not going to be a board member anymore because Cool1 gave me greif for a while..... WTF???
here's an idea for you..... click this link: http://www.toymods.org.au/memberscars.php
Now look down the list and see just how many people there represent the ones that give you grief. It's not many is it?
Just come to a meeting, sit in the background if you want, and listen to what we all talk about. It's a social club mate.
I cannot stress this enough. Please, do not write off Toymods Car Club because of what happens on these forums.
I am happy to meet you myself if you want, then maybe you'll get an idea of just who i really am, and what Toymods means to me.
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Hence my post about coming and meeting you guys!
See you there!
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I supported Toymods Toymods Club Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 11 August 2004 11:26
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THE WITZL wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 21:07 | here's an idea for you..... click this link: http://www.toymods.org.au/memberscars.php
Now look down the list and see just how many people there represent the ones that give you grief. It's not many is it?
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After all this time there's still more AE86 owners than any other single make of car in the club!
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Location: Baulkham Hills, Sydney
Registered: January 2004
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Fri, 13 August 2004 06:14
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[quote title=ae86drift wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 21:02]dony worry jebs
my website is almost complete, in peace we will exist.
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Thanks the lord!!
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Fri, 13 August 2004 06:21
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ae86drift wrote on Wed, 11 August 2004 21:02 | dony worry jebs
my website is almost complete, in peace we will exist.
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haha yep!!
watch the ae86 movement disappear from toymods!
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Sun, 15 August 2004 08:06
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Audioslaver wrote on Fri, 13 August 2004 16:21 |
watch the ae86 movement disappear from toymods!
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thats a bad thing des?
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Registered: February 2003
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Mon, 16 August 2004 00:29
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nopes! *inserts smiley instead*
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Mon, 16 August 2004 06:52
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hahah dimwit
where were you on friday hrmmm?
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Location: Camden, NSW
Registered: June 2002
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Mon, 16 August 2004 10:32
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Anyone in a CAMS club that i can come along and watch a drift day at driftland? as its only 2mins from my house?
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Registered: February 2003
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Tue, 17 August 2004 01:01
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ae86drift wrote on Mon, 16 August 2004 16:52 | hahah dimwit
where were you on friday hrmmm?
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family dinner then did a city run with the woman
what you guys get up to? VCD drorift barttle?~
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Tue, 17 August 2004 04:59
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thug_immortal wrote on Mon, 16 August 2004 20:32 | Anyone in a CAMS club that i can come along and watch a drift day at driftland? as its only 2mins from my house?
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why cant you just go watch anyway?
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Tue, 17 August 2004 08:13
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whos up for a cruise the night after the drift nats in sept??
simon and the other ae86ers from interstate can join!!
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 18 August 2004 00:21
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hell yeah...start organising dude!
you going both days Garth?
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Wed, 18 August 2004 13:25
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ae86drift wrote on Tue, 17 August 2004 18:13 | whos up for a cruise the night after the drift nats in sept??
simon and the other ae86ers from interstate can join!!
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Aw shit yeah...
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 18 August 2004 13:29
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Audioslaver wrote on Wed, 18 August 2004 10:21 | hell yeah...start organising dude!
you going both days Garth?
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yes
both days
and the cruise will be sayurday night
same as the other cruise
touge
will get dates later on
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 18 August 2004 13:32
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ae86drift wrote on Wed, 18 August 2004 23:29 |
Audioslaver wrote on Wed, 18 August 2004 10:21 | hell yeah...start organising dude!
you going both days Garth?
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yes
both days
and the cruise will be sayurday night
same as the other cruise
touge
will get dates later on
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What's a sayurday?
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 18 August 2004 13:53
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AE86slut wrote on Wed, 18 August 2004 23:32 |
ae86drift wrote on Wed, 18 August 2004 23:29 |
Audioslaver wrote on Wed, 18 August 2004 10:21 | hell yeah...start organising dude!
you going both days Garth?
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yes
both days
and the cruise will be sayurday night
same as the other cruise
touge
will get dates later on
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What's a sayurday?
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stfu
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Location: Baulko Hillo
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Wed, 18 August 2004 14:02
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Oh, I thought it may have been the 8th day of the week that I had been missing out on for the last 25 years.....
Anyways, sounds sweet. Could possibly be a killer turnout if we can get all the interstate ppl who drive here to come!
May even have new things done to the car by then as discussed last night Garth
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Location: theres a castle on my hil...
Registered: October 2003
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Thu, 19 August 2004 03:46
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I think tommo has a point..
Id go to a toymods event, but Id want some other hachi's there with me . I guess I just feel theres safety from slander in numbers.. heh heh.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Location: cambo
Registered: May 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Thu, 19 August 2004 05:47
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are your pubes actually red?
who cares if theres a sprinter only cruise, i still think only sprinters should go as thats what cruise it is. i would LOVE to see a celica only cruise or the like, i would go, but only in the missus' TA22. it would be a major perve-fest cause only girls own celicas
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Registered: February 2003
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Thu, 19 August 2004 05:53
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EVOSTi wrote on Thu, 19 August 2004 15:47 | are your pubes actually red?
who cares if theres a sprinter only cruise, i still think only sprinters should go as thats what cruise it is. i would LOVE to see a celica only cruise or the like, i would go, but only in the missus' TA22. it would be a major perve-fest cause only girls own celicas
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ROFL
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Thu, 19 August 2004 08:54
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Tommo wrote on Thu, 19 August 2004 09:05 | I cant believe you guys! because some girls brand you as takumi's you dont wanna take part in toymods events?? everybody gets branded by what kind of car they drive, hell my brother and I are hairdressers (celica and MR2) cressidas are owned by grandmas.. i wont even mention the supras
but anyway what im trying to say is that every has a joke and it sucks that some people cant take it.
A whole bunch of people including myself would love to see your cars in the flesh(especially garths and audioslavers!!)
but how the feck can we do that with AE86 ONLY cruises and when you dont wanna go to toymods events. thats just silly.
Heres an example of how silly it is:
I am a red head. i went through my whole school life putting up shit like rednuts, ginger megs between the legs, are your pubes actually red? red headed rat rooter.
Now im sure this might seem like a good reason for me to leave that school and go form a REDHEADS ONLY learning environment but did i do that?? NO because its stupid!
Instead i threw the shit back and had a laugh.
example:
"hey ginger nuts, are your pubes actually red?"
"yeah and your mum loves them. Can you ask her when she wants me to come round and mow the lawn again?"
the point of this message is pretty clear i reckon.
dont soft option your way out of it!
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... this has been covered. check page 1
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Thu, 19 August 2004 11:15
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regarding the celica only cruise.... we tried once, that turned into Megacruise mk 1!
Why? because so many people kicked up a stick about old school celicas being "elitist", so we invited EVERYONE, but we encouraged all the old school celicas to come out and try and get the best attendance...... we got 13, our best ever.
My point is, people dont like when you avoid the groups events and then purposefully exclude the group from attending your events.
But i think we have really cleared all this up already.
Remember, 3rd October - SHOW AND SHINE!! BE THERE!
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I supported Toymods
Location: sydney.au
Registered: August 2002
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Re: when can we have another AE86 cruise
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Thu, 19 August 2004 11:21
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THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 19 August 2004 21:15 | regarding the celica only cruise.... we tried once, that turned into Megacruise mk 1!
Why? because so many people kicked up a stick about old school celicas being "elitist", so we invited EVERYONE, but we encouraged all the old school celicas to come out and try and get the best attendance...... we got 13, our best ever.
My point is, people dont like when you avoid the groups events and then purposefully exclude the group from attending your events.
But i think we have really cleared all this up already.
Remember, 3rd October - SHOW AND SHINE!! BE THERE!
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hehe riceboys.
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