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Location: sydney
Registered: August 2004
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aw11 gearboxs
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Mon, 09 August 2004 01:32
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need some help with gearboxes.
just want to know if all supercharged aw11s come with a e51 tranny??
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Mon, 09 August 2004 02:58

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from factory, yes. some with LSD and some with-out.
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Location: sydney
Registered: August 2004
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Mon, 09 August 2004 03:46

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are all the drive shafts the same
the larger diam. ones??
many thanxs
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Mon, 09 August 2004 21:32

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i am not 100% sure, but i think there is a difference between the LSD and non-LSD shafts. i am sure i seen it on a thread here somewhere.
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Location: sydney
Registered: August 2004
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Tue, 10 August 2004 11:57

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Thanx for the info,
i was thinking of just finding a e51 open box with shafts and fitting a lsd centre from a box ive got already, the box is a lsd one from a fwd, i need it for a mr2.
has anyone done this b4?
will it work, or im i wasting my time.
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Tue, 10 August 2004 15:04

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PM Ben Wilson, i am sure either him or his friends have modified a FWD box to fit in the AW11.
i couldnt see that the rwd E51 and fwd E58? box would have different diff centers. so it could be a very feasable to just replace the diff center.
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Location: Canberra
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Tue, 10 August 2004 22:47

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oh, sorry Ben. i thought you had done it. must of been someone else.
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Location: Canberra
Registered: May 2002
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Tue, 10 August 2004 22:49

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Toby Hunt has some experience with the process..
I'm sure there is a writeup on www.mr2oc.com somewhere.
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Location: Switzerland
Registered: September 2003
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Wed, 11 August 2004 00:39

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I have used a ae101 SC box in my mr2, i just used the shifter link from my old 4age mr2 box, The bit that cables connect to.
on front wheel drives it stickes out the back on the mr2 box it sticks out the front, I had to make a blanking plate for the old hole and drill a new one out the front of the box. I also from memory had to drill a new hole through the shaft for a roll pin, need to use a special drill as the shaft is hard!
I Did this with out opening the box just used a vacuum cleaner to suck the swarf away as i drilled very carfully, made a sleave for the drill so I could use the old hole (back hole) as a pilot.
Hope this helps in some way,
I also had to shorten the axles for the narrower aw11 shassis, but next time I would widden the track 
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Location: Switzerland
Registered: September 2003
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Wed, 11 August 2004 01:24

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I have used a ae101 SC box in my mr2, I just used the shifter link from my old 4age mr2 box, The bit that the cables connect to.
On front wheel drives it stickes out the back, on the mr2 box it sticks out the front, I had to make a blanking plate for the old hole and drill a new one out the front of the box. I also from memory had to drill a new hole through the shaft for a roll pin, need to use a special drill as the shaft is hard!
I did this with out opening the box, just used a vacuum cleaner to suck the swarf away as I drilled very carfully, made a sleave for the drill so I could use the old hole (back hole) as a pilot.
Hope this helps in some way,
I also had to shorten the axles for the narrower aw11 shassis, but next time I would widden the track
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Wed, 11 August 2004 03:15

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did you happen to take any pics when you did it?
do the AW11 drive shafts work in the FWD box?
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Location: sydney
Registered: August 2004
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Wed, 11 August 2004 12:07

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Thanks guys,
ive talked to a few peoples about cuting a hole out of the fwd box but they told me it leaks some old from the hole at times.
i also need the drive shafts too. thats why im look for a e51 with lsd & shafts, but it seems that it too hard to find one. ive found a few open ones with drive shafts.
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Location: Switzerland
Registered: September 2003
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Fri, 13 August 2004 01:29

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firstly sorry for the double post.
I also don't have any photos sorry..
I don't think you can use the aw11 drive axles because ae101 sc gearbox (diff area) is wider, from memory, also the ae101 axles use a short lay shaft so that both swinging axles are about the same lenght, important in the front wheel drive application.
The ae101 axles are also the biggest I have ever seen, even bigger than the ones on our WRX STI RA (which brake often, but thats 350HP..)
I don't even know if I tried the standard aw11 shafts I must have because before i woked out how to shorten the ae101 ones i was getting desperate, I would have tried them, they just must have been very different, The ae101 hub and aw11 must be the same as I had no difficulty there.
As for leeking oil, I have not had this, as well as drilling the hole through for the shifter shaft, I bored it wider at the out side lip so I could fit in the oil seal. I used a peace of round bar that was the same diameter as the bearing faces on the shifter shaft and drilled a hole throuh the bar to mount a lathe tool (high speed carbon steel) bit, adjusted the lathe bit till it cut the right diameter hole and spun the bar in a hand drill, boring a nice concentric area for the seal easy.
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Location: sydney
Registered: August 2004
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Re: aw11 gearboxs
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Fri, 13 August 2004 10:33
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hi,
what you described just sound a bit too complicated for a back yard mechanic. i dont know too much about gear boxes yet.
ive taken them apart but never looked at the shifting bits.
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