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I supported Toymods
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making a VCD
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Mon, 16 September 2002 10:25
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ok, well i as many people do have a DVD player which is also capable of playing VCD now does anyone know of any programs or ways in which i can take all the car video's i have on my computer and burn them onto a cd in which i can then watch using the DVD/VCD player???
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Canberra
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July 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Mon, 16 September 2002 11:54
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Try using a program called Nero. I've created VCD's with it before, you can even do some funky things like creating menus and stuff. Not to sure of there URL at the moment, just look for it on download.com
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Mon, 16 September 2002 14:45
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You will need an encoder for those files that are not in a correct format.
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I supported Toymods
Toymods Club Secretary
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Sydney
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Re: making a VCD
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Mon, 16 September 2002 22:03
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My DVD player reads MPEG files as VCDs, so all I have to do is burn them to CD and whack the disc in the player.. The only thing I have trouble with is divx/avi files. Do a search for avi2mpeg or some such utility..
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 01:50
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Ok thanks heaps guys, downloading that program now 
also what is required to be able to record something off a video onto the computer? as i have some footage from a year ago with a few mates and wouldn't mind placing that onto a cd as well.
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 02:09
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I use a program called TMPGEnc, it will encode to VCD, Super VCD and DVD quality in both Pal and NTSC. I haven't found anything that it won't convert....yet. But it is very slow so I hope you have a P4, or alot of time. But at least it works.
You then use Nero to make the CD, with menus or whatever. Nero I find crashed alot when trying to convert the video files.
To record from a VCR to file, you'll need a video input, there is not many video cards that have these. I have a FlyVideo TV tuner with AV input, and normal coxial. They are only about $100 and you'll be able to watch TV, videos, listen to the radio on your computer. And also, capture video, TV and radio to file. Quality isn't that great, but you could always spend more money on your capture card....if you want.
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 06:05
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is it worth trying to save video onto my computer when its only got a 500mhz and 256ram?
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 06:14
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If you are going from a VCR to your computer then CPU speed does matter, it all depends on what quality you want, and the quality of your capture card. I take it you don't have a capture card? If you don't then it is only limitted by your wallet.
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I supported Toymods
Banned User
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 06:15
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It'll work with no trouble but as was said, it will take a long while to encode a mpg 
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 06:28
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well its not worth much money to me, perhaps i'll just find someone with all the gear to copy the video into a mpg file for me then i can place it on cd's from there
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 06:44
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Yea you could do that. But like I said, for $100 you can get a TV card...and $100 for a TV on your computer is worth it.
And then you can capture from video to file.
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I supported Toymods
Banned User
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 06:48
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But if you already have all your car videos on you pc like you said, you wont need a capture card!
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 06:53
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yes true except for the fact i have video of my car in action on video tape whicj i would like on my computer, just i don't want it to be poor quality due to my computers shitness, so i don't want to buy the card unless i knew my computer could handle the saving of good quality video.
just took me 50min to convert 10min of video to vcd format
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 07:04
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I tend to leave it convert overnight.
I ran the TV card on a P3 866, and it converted ok... You have to muck around with it, find the right quality to compress too. I think from memory I used to convert to MPEG 1, and then once finished recording I'd convert it again to MPEG 2 (VCD). That way I got 22fps at 320 x 240, which is what VCD is....I think.
Also, I remember that you don't use the program that come with the card, but I downloaded one from the net which was better, and allowed it to capture much better.
Your money though.
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 10:21
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Thanks everyone,
downloaded that TMPGEnc thing and it works very well and also got that Nero program and it also works very well but i've still got a lot to learn about the programs functions but thanks for all your time and advice
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Finland
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June 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Tue, 17 September 2002 11:15
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I'm a computer illiterate. Can anyone give some simple guidance what parameters to look for when choosing a TV-Video capture card. My goal is to make VCD with good picture quality - not crystal clear like DVD - but decent anyhow. MPEG2 decoding is acceptable (despite it's flaws).
So what precise specifications should TV-card hold. What type screen ratio (pixels?) am I shooting for? (I wish to get full screen on TV, not a partial picture coverage).
I guess in AU dollars I'm looking for something in the $200 range, possibly $300 if it's worth it.
Any simple and general guidelines are most welcome.
Thank you.
-A.
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Re: making a VCD
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Wed, 18 September 2002 03:50
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Any TV card will let you watch TV at fullscreen at 320x240. Some will get you 640x480.
The major factor that will determine the quality you want is whether it has hardware encoding on the card. Most don't, and you probably won't find one in your price range either.
However, you need to look at the quality of VCD's, since they only have a resolution of 352x288 (PAL). So realistically all you need is to be able to capture at that resolution to make a decent VCD. Also, you'll have to include the speed of your CPU, Hard Drive and memory, especially if you are going to use software encoders.
If all else fails, just save the video stream as an un-encoded AVI file, probably requires about 100meg per min, but you'll have the best quality. Later you can convert it to VCD (MPEG-1) and you won't have to worry about keeping up with the stream.
Answer your questions?
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Finland
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June 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Wed, 18 September 2002 04:03
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Thank you Libby, that was spot on. Now I have a starting point. What you wrote pretty much clarified the process of VCD and card specs. (I wasn't aware cards could decode them, I thought always pc does it).
I had a vague feeling already that I need to get myself a third hard drive solely for video use. (other two are 3G each and about 75% full).
This forum is great !
-A.
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Re: making a VCD
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Wed, 18 September 2002 04:28
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If you have 2 x 3gig HDD I suggest you use them as door stops and buy yourself a new 80gig 7200rpm drive...they are about $250. You can use a program called Norton Ghost that will allow you to image your C:\ to the new one, so you won't have to reinstall any of your software, or Windows.
If you only have a 3gig drive I'm scared to ask what speed your CPU is, because you might be getting in over your head. Remember, on a P3 500 it takes over 4 hrs to encode 30mins to VCD!
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Coffs
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May 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Wed, 18 September 2002 05:35
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How do you go about converting a DivX to a VCD??
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Re: making a VCD
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Wed, 18 September 2002 07:28
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Download TMPGEnc, I'm pretty sure that it works with DivX
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: making a VCD
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Wed, 18 September 2002 08:26
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yes it sure does i've converted heaps but only problem i found was when i converted dvx (or however its spelt) as it gets towards the end the sound drifts off a bit so its not inline with the persons mouth as they talk
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