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Neal Pallotta
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Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 01:57 Go to next message
It has been told to me by a Celica nut (my uncle's friend peter) and someone telling me to keep my engine in my engine bay, as it's original kit, and thus Insurance Gold, (my uncle) that there was a celica motor sold a while back that involved the mating of a pushrod 2T and a pair of carbs .. and apparently, that intake fits straight onto the 13T...

I only really need something better than the Aisin POS that's on there now, so, to save me mucking around with adaptors and having a weirdass aircleaner on my car -- who's seen a 2T-B engine in this lifetime? >_<

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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you want to get rid of the Aisin POS, you'll be disappointed to learn the 2T-B runs two Aisin POS's which are identical to what you have (apart from the accelerator pumps which are smaller).
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PM chutz_pah, I think he has...
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Something tells me that wouldn't help, either, being two of the same -- or would it? You know if two of crap is better than one of crap? Basically I'm trying to lift acceleration response and torque to 5000 RPM.

Also, anyone know if the 2TG carbs/intake fit?
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2T-B's do make more power than 2T's, but I'm not sure how much of that is from the carbs and how much is from the other differences (eg higher compression). I suspect putting twin carbs on an otherwise stock 2T would do little apart from increase fuel consumption.

2T-G sidedraught carbs will fit with an appropriate DCOE manifold, but the 2T-G manifold won't fit.
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DCOE? And this thing's a 13T-U, so... I need to raise compression anyway. Wish I had the ability to source something like, say, a 3TG, which I think doesn't even exist, but enh.

A 3TGTE is -way- too much, especially on P's. Cop magnet, the Turbo sound... Is there a 3TGE?
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
There is no such thing is a 3T-G, although it's fairly common to build a hybrid engine with a 3T bottom end and 2T-G cylinder head, and the result is often referred to as a 3T-G. If you want an atmo T series engine, this is the way to go.
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fair enough. The 2TG just seems a bit small to be dragging a lump of A4x Celica around, so I want to keep the capacity and up the ante on power.
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you can get the manifolds needed to mate Sidedrafts ( weber , dellorto or solex ) thru redline in sydney

Thats who supplied the single 45 side draft unit i had on my 2tB ( in a ta22 - it came out of an import ta40 )

as for power - most of it comes from the fact that the compression is alot higher than a 2t , the carbs still Suck .

If you want better response for now - get a single or a pairing of sidedrafts on your motor , a good set of extractors , the distributer balanced in to work with the carbs and a bloody good tune ..

This will fire up the 2tb a fair shake , until you can go EFI and turboed setup

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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just put a weber on the original manifold with an adapter plate, acceleration is alot smoother and more responsive
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
or you can do that ! Very Happy

thats the cheapest and best option for improving carbs on a 2t Wink
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its a fairly common upgrade too, just look around for ta2X celicas,T18,etc
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Out of curiousity how would you drive timing tackle on the 2TG head with the pushrod 3T motor? Straight off the crank I'm assuming? Pull out the original cam and pushrods, yeah?

And I'm thinking with the webers, what sizes would be best for singles and what for duals? Side or topdraft, either -- side means I can get away with making an aircleaner reasonably easily, yay for discarded Alfa parts -- but at the same time the top means I could probably mangle the standard one to fit...
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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Wed, 11 August 2004 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
See here.

Edit: Unsure if single cam head intake flange pattern is common between 2T/3T.

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Re: Hunt for the Impossible Part -- 2T-B intake/carbs Thu, 12 August 2004 02:28 Go to previous message
theres minor differences - being a drainage or ventlation hole found on intake side of newer heads .. it sits in front of runner 1 - avout the size of a 5c piece ..

older heads - ie early ta22's dont have this , so you bay beed to plug it up ..

i just used a brass welch plug thing - no hassles
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